Fantasy Mercophobia vs Igneel

[WoWfan]

Yes, she basically did, as there is a wall that can’t be overcome with brute force alone, but can be through the bonds of friendship. It doesn’t create magic power, magic power is restored when ethernanos are absorbed by the body. Sting is fighting for his friend too, albeit it could degenerate to simple revenge if nurtured in the wrong way but it didn’t, even Hibiki mentions at some point that rage for the sake of someone else is not necessarily malevolent, it is natural to attack someone who hurt or killed someone close to you, but you don’t let yourself be consumed by it or take pleasure in their suffering to make yourself feel better, just like how Natsu with his anger did not fall to darkness, it is not like he is going on a blood fueled rage and started killing everyone not involved, like what Acno was doing, if anything it is more justice than revenge. Igneel is fighting for the humans, he is fighting for his son, and instead of running away, he accepts the mistakes of the past he made and took responsibility for his actions for creating Acnologia to fight him to the death, that alone is worthy of PoF, ever heard the phrase “actions speaks more loudly than words”? feelings and not triggered by speeches. Merc did lift an ocean though, it is clearly seen and stated. Igneel’s attacks don’t even dwarf mountains which normal dragons have done, do you see the difference there? There is a difference if one of the UFC fighters weighs heavier than the other or breaks other rules, that is an unfair advantage. That is the same with Natsu and Merc with their conditions. A black hole can be measured by it’s mass even as the volume and density that makes it up. It’s called mass energy equivalence.

 

[LaGOAT]

Funny that Sting killing Jiemma was mentioned as PoF, considering it was an act of pure revenge, with Lector already being dead from Sting's point of view. Looks like we can canonically say, by WoW's own admission, that feelings of revenge do indeed grant enormous PoF.

Bro that’s game I don’t see how he can encounter that unless he makes up another excuse

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Funny that Sting killing Jiemma was mentioned as PoF, considering it was an act of pure revenge, with Lector already being dead from Sting's point of view. Looks like we can canonically say, by WoW's own admission, that feelings of revenge do indeed grant enormous PoF.

Further proves Acno is even more POF.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 29, 2019 ---

I am not talking real life nonsense i am talking about FT world. You keep telling it's multi-continental when it was clearly town level of water.

 

[WoWfan]

There is a difference between justice and revenge which Acno is the latter and Sting the former. And it is Multi-Continent Level based on it being an ocean

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Acnologia was fighting for justice same as Sting. Sting tried get justice for lector while acno for his Parents and Sonya.
Water was only town level so no multi-continental.

 

[LaGOAT]

Yes, she basically did, as there is a wall that can’t be overcome with brute force alone, but can be through the bonds of friendship. It doesn’t create magic power, magic power is restored when ethernanos are absorbed by the body. Sting is fighting for his friend too, albeit it could degenerate to simple revenge if nurtured in the wrong way but it didn’t, even Hibiki mentions at some point that rage for the sake of someone else is not necessarily malevolent, it is natural to attack someone who hurt or killed someone close to you, but you don’t let yourself be consumed by it or take pleasure in their suffering to make yourself feel better, just like how Natsu with his anger did not fall to darkness, it is not like he is going on a blood fueled rage and started killing everyone not involved, like what Acno was doing, if anything it is more justice than revenge. Igneel is fighting for the humans, he is fighting for his son, and instead of running away, he accepts the mistakes of the past he made and took responsibility for his actions for creating Acnologia to fight him to the death, that alone is worthy of PoF, ever heard the phrase “actions speaks more loudly than words”? feelings and not triggered by speeches. Merc did lift an ocean though, it is clearly seen and stated. Igneel’s attacks don’t even dwarf mountains which normal dragons have done, do you see the difference there? There is a difference if one of the UFC fighters weighs heavier than the other or breaks other rules, that is an unfair advantage. That is the same with Natsu and Merc with their conditions. A black hole can be measured by it’s mass even as the volume and density that makes it up. It’s called mass energy equivalence.

Pof is POF rather it’s from negative or positive emotions. Natsu POF isn’t any different when Future rogue killed future Lucy right in fromt of him vs when he thought Lucy was died in alaverez arc which lead him to transform into END both situations were POF

 

[WoWfan]

No, Natsu clearly did not get driven by revenge, he did not set out to kill Rogue, he did not see him suffer, he was going to stop him from succeeding. PoF is used when you are fighting for the sake of others, not for the sake of making oneself feel better at the expense of others. END possesses Curse power is powered by Negative Emotions, two different things.

Acnologia was fighting for justice same as Sting. Sting tried get justice for lector while acno for his Parents and Sonya.
Water was only town level so no multi-continental.

No, Acno was fighting for malevolent revenge at one point, but now he is just killing just to kill for no reason. Sting just attacked Jimena because he killed Lector, Sting did not kill Jiemma, he did not enjoy it, made him suffer, torturing the ones he cared about nor started killing others that did not kill lector, he is not that kind of person

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

You have nothing to prove that.
Acno was fighting for justice just like Sting was.

 

[WoWfan]

I do have proof, Acno loved spilling blood, even with those who had nothing to do with his family, he kills and tortures because he is king, that is simply evil, justice is about balance, if anything, what Sting did was considered Mercy as he would have killed Jiemma for killing Lector

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Empty Words
Sting went for the killing blow against Jiemma to get justice(your words not mine) against death lector.
Acno fighting for justice against any dragon. Proves he got a Pof power against igneel.

Spoiler: Acno fighting Justice

 

[WoWfan]

Sting did not went for the killing blow, he just attacked Jiemma, he did not make an effort to kill him, as he would have done so already. Justice is about balance, revenge is about making oneself feel better, if he wanted justice then he would not kill anymore dragons than the one because that is how it works, instead you contradict yourself by saying genocide is justice against those who had nothing to do with his family when it is simply killing and nothing more

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

String attacked Jiemma with every thing he got. He is not gonna hold back against who killed Lector. It's just that it didn't kill him.
In Acnologia's mind he was fighting for justice just like Sting. So he indeed got POF power against Igneel.

 

[WoWfan]

If that were the case then he would not have hesitated to kill him right there but he didn’t, he even did not question why he is still alive, just making a point that he killed Lector, instead of finishing the job, he clearly had self control and knew what he was doing. Mind and action are two different things, let me ask you, if this his how you feel about Acnologia, do you justify the holocaust?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

String attacked Jiemma with every thing he got. He is not gonna hold back against who killed Lector. It's just that it didn't kill him.

In Acnologia's mind he was fighting for justice just like Sting. So he indeed got POF power against Igneel.

Animus also even though he got hit with same the intent Sting hit Jiemma. Acnologia didn't go confirm wether he died or not.

 

[WoWfan]

He knew what he was doing, it did not kill him because Sting knew that is not what Lector would want, it is not the first time we have seen Sting do this. He is not the killing type. Acno was not killing for justice, it was to simply destroy everything, that is default mind set. Igneel did not kill his family, stop saying he did. But unlike Jiemma, Animus was going to die regardless where as Sabertooth was aware that Jiemma would live and leave. So no Sting did not intend to kill. So you are justifying genocide in general

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Sting didn't care what about what Lector wanted. He didn't have time think what Lector wanted. He just attacked him blindly to get justice(Your Words) for his closest friend. It just it didn't kill him just like Acno's attack didn't Animus.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes he does because they are best friends and best friends look out for one another. If he wanted revenge then he would have not waited to monologue and just killed him, the fact that he had time to listen to others talk means he has self control and that his rage calmed down even when Jiemma is still alive and kicking and would later leave, it is simple as that, Acno did not stop, and just wanted to kill everything because he is an evil prick, the difference is that Jiemma would love and Animus would not, there is a difference between the two.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Sting lost his friend he attacked Jiemma blindly. He lost his closest friend. There was no reason for him to hold back. The attack didn't kill Jiemma that's all, he didn't try clean whatever remain of Jiemma just like Acno didn't against Animus.

 

[WoWfan]

Yet he was not lost in rage, meaning he did not kill because he wanted to, he simply just attacked Jiemma because, he did not become a homicidal maniac like Acnologia, Acno wants to kill every dragon no matter what, he would not make the mistake of letting Animus alive unless Animus tricked him, not that it helped as he was going to die anyway, while Sting knew full well that Jiemma is alive and would live. He did not become like Acno and fought for his friend, not like Acno who enjoys killing

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

He wanted Justice for Lector. You can clearly see from his face. He is not gonna hold back against someone who killed his friend.