Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Jovan]

Seems that 2.5D and Dear Sa-chan will do as I predicted, one around what Interrogation Princess did, the other being a massive bomb.

Happy to see SxF above Jujutsu, BC and Souma.

 

[Franz]

It's fine, I think, but considering it's a new Kishimoto manga, it's not really good. Not even talking about the manga being pushed or whatever, but it's reasonable to imagine a lot of people would have bought it because of Kishimoto's name.

But why ?

I don't understand, what does it involve?

Very dissapointed by Samurai 8, losing to Hinomaru Zumou which sells around 20k/below in some cases....

Yet ???

Guys, it's a sales day, A DAY !!!!

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I voted 120k+, lol. That was a swing and a miss, unless something really unprecedented happens.

100 k?

This is science fiction, in the best of cases a 30k is more logical.

 

[Jovan]

But why ?

I don't understand, what does it involve?


Yet ???

Guys, it's a sales day, A DAY !!!!

It's not going to suddenly rise and overtake things just because, I haven't seen that happen in cases that isn't SxF, which was also much down in print numbers and needed reprints. S8 has a big printing numbers from what I saw.
Going from a million per vol seller manga to 20-30k at best Oricon seller, and majority coming just because Kishimoto and the push...I doubt Shuieisha isn't dissapointed. RxL is gonna do better at this point!

 

[Franz]

RxL was able to break 100k on Vol 1 per Shoseki estimates, S8 will be lucky in its current position to make break 50.

And he did it after only one day I imagine.

 

[OniluapL]

But why ?

I don't understand, what does it involve?


Yet ???

Guys, it's a sales day, A DAY !!!!

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100 k?

This is science fiction, in the best of cases a 30k is more logical.

Eden's Zero is another sci-fi manga from a returning battle shounen veteran and it did 100k. I figured Kishimoto would do more.

 

[pamuchi]

 

[Jovan]

And he did it after only one day I imagine.

It did a 59k in 6 days. S8 will have only 3 days sadly to count this week.

 

[Franz]

t's not going to suddenly rise and overtake things just because, I haven't seen that happen in cases that isn't SxF, which was also much down in print numbers and needed reprints. S8 has a big printing numbers from what I saw.

But....

What does it has to do with it ? No one has said that he must overtake all the positions, only that it is objectively soon to make judgments based on a data of ONE DAY of sales.

Going from a million per vol seller manga to 20-30k at best Oricon seller, and majority coming just because Kishimoto and the push...I doubt Shuieisha isn't dissapointed.

I suppose everyone, from Kishimoto to Shueisha, expected that he would never ever even half as far as Naruto in terms of sales or success, even in light of Kishimoto's statement that it would not be a very long series

So ... I would say no.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I voted 120k+, lol. That was a swing and a miss, unless something really unprecedented happens.

Who's got the chart of who voted what? Because I think a lot of yall owe me betting money.

Seems that 2.5D and Dear Sa-chan will do as I predicted, one around what Interrogation Princess did, the other being a massive bomb.

Happy to see SxF above Jujutsu, BC and Souma.

Sacchan gets what it deserves. Unironically one of the worst manga I've read. Reads like a bad NTR doujin, only every character has the personality of cardboard.

It's not going to suddenly rise and overtake things just because, I haven't seen that happen in cases that isn't SxF, which was also much down in print numbers and needed reprints. S8 has a big printing numbers from what I saw.
Going from a million per vol seller manga to 20-30k at best Oricon seller, and majority coming just because Kishimoto and the push...I doubt Shuieisha isn't dissapointed. RxL is gonna do better at this point!

It's especially noteworthy because of the advertising put into the series. One of the things done for example was a billboard on every station on the Yamanote Line, a trainline which is basically half the reason a city as massive as Tokyo is able to even function. Doing that alone likely would've cost millions.

 

[Franz]

It's especially noteworthy because of the advertising put into the series.

I still don't understand the connection, I'm sorry.

 

[Arjuna]

I am happy that each volume of Spy X Family is selling so well, it's truly the best debut Manga in Jump in many years.

 

[Jovan]

Shueisha did one good thing with putting S8 promo in each Jump volume released now, so maybe it helps? People on 4ch predict now it wont even enter Oricon.

My poor Dark Gathering bombing so hard, noo.

 

[Xzone]

Sam8 can outperform zumou but is difficult.

I don't know , I simply found funny how we go for laught at people believing the print story to being in damage control because the series isn't selling as good as they believed.

 

[Franz]

I don't know , I simply found funny how we go for laught at people believing the print story to being in damage control because the series isn't selling as good as they believed.

I have always believed that it would have sold around 20-30 k.

Notwithstanding that it is objectively too early to make judgments.

 

[Nemesis]

I am happy that each volume of Spy X Family is selling so well, it's truly the best debut Manga in Jump in many years.

The best manga in Jump.. which isn't in Jump. How ironic. XD

 

[ruggia]

In less depressing/apprehensive news, bookstores apparently have been having to limit copies of Kimetsu to just one per person because of how popular they are. Holy shit.

Are people scalping copies of Demon Slayer? The only other reason I can think to buy more than one copy is one for reading and one for saving in which case why not just buy digital for reading?

Most of these are volumes with special post card from a pool of 10 different anime scenes.
These are currently being resold at above volume price

 

[Franz]

But do sales of the My Hero guidebook count as franchise sales?

 

[TJQ15]

I like how we are talking about sam8 sales being bad or good while we ignore that is lower than hinomaru zumou vol 16.

That was the first thing that jumped out at me, I was like that can’t be a good sign.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

New My Hero Academia anime PV

Can't wait for the new opening. For the moment, regarding Jump Fall season openings, Black Clover > One Piece > Dr.Stone for me. Only MHA is left.

 

[Kharthas]

Of course we can't judge anything long term just by one day of data, but we can make observations on how, at this moment, Samurai 8 is doing compared to its peers. Maybe sales will increase in the next few days, maybe it will pick up next week, we don't know yet. What we do know is that it's not doing particularly great first day on sale.