Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Not like Saiyuki was anything really great...

 

[Aipom626]

Saiyuki started out super strong for me, but then gradually lost my interest due to its super slow pace and massively-lengthy explanations every chapter. However, I'd still rather see it around than TSS or Beast Children

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Saiyuki started out super strong for me, but then gradually lost my interest due to its super slow pace and massively-lengthy explanations every chapter.

Pretty much my experience, i really liked the beginning but it lost me when i started to feel like "these two still in the same f@cking place???"

 

[Jovan]

Pretty much my experience, i really liked the beginning but it lost me when i started to feel like "these two still in the same f@cking place???"

It should have had a timeskip to what the final chapter was early on. Wasted opprtunity.

 

[Thores]

It should have had a timeskip to what the final chapter was early on. Wasted opprtunity.

I dunno about that. Like, they definitely shouldn't have taken 15 chapters to leave the house. I still feel that, more often than not, a timeskip is best used when you've had a good amount of time to get attached to the characters. Once you've explored the current point in the timeline with several arcs, and capped it off with a big event, there's a feeling of payoff when you revisit the cast years later. Especially if you're going to do stuff like antagonists changing allegiances. The One Piece and Dragon Ball timeskips are satisfying because we'd already spent years with those stories before the jump. Meanwhile, I think people forget Demon Slayer even had a timeskip because it happened so early and we only really got to see one person age.

There's definitely some things that Last Saiyuki should have made happen faster to keep people's attention, but I totally get why the mangaka was trying to save the timeskip for more of a "wow" moment.

 

[Paze]

I don't think bnha will go on as long as people expect. There are already signs Horikoshi is cracking under the pressure. It seems like he put in a lot of extra effort since the start compared to other other weekly mangaka too.

 

[Franz]

I don't think bnha will go on as long as people expect. There are already signs Horikoshi is cracking under the pressure. It seems like he put in a lot of extra effort since the start compared to other other weekly mangaka too.

?????
From the statements of Hori it seems that the manga will go beyond the 30 volumes he has planned.

My Hero will reach 30 volumes next year, so it goes without saying that at least another two years will last ....

 

[Xzone]

Saiyuki first chapters and after they enter in that town were good, but it has pacing issues.Is still a better read than any series that began this year.
Kamio mediocre character and weak story but the horror and action at least make it readable and even fun.
Tokyo and Samurai have a interesting world and the story could be better than Kamio, but anything else make it less readable.
Beast children have a nice story , good art and some funny moment. Is better than the other series but it isn't better than Saiyuki/Kamio.
This round was weak and worse than last one(which is sad because Kamio and saiyuki have huge flaws ), but I see in the author of tokyo and beast children potential to be good author.

Edit: I forgot about Mitama and Yozakura round, Yozakura are better than all previous series except Saiyuki(but it can be better than it if the series continue with this quality). Mitama comedy is hit and miss, but is a better at what it try to do than Samurai/Saiyuki/Shinobi or Futari/Kamio, which are better than mitama but unlike these, Mitama's author know what is he doing.

 

[Konja9]

Saiyuki died for these other flops man

The only to blame for Saiyuki's death is the own Saiyuki.

I mean it was at the bottom of the TOC, while the sales were pretty low. It would have died regardless of its competition.

 

[savethecat]

I don't think bnha will go on as long as people expect. There are already signs Horikoshi is cracking under the pressure. It seems like he put in a lot of extra effort since the start compared to other other weekly mangaka too.

What are the signs that he’s cracking under pressure?
For the most part he’s been consistently putting out new chapters every single week, with only a break once every couple months.

The page count is shorter than the earlier days, but it’s still a consistent page count every week.
It seems like he just adjusted to working a comfortable workload for himself

 

[hhht3x]

Saiyuki first chapters and after they enter in that town were good, but it has pacing issues.Is still a better read than any series that began this year.
Kamio mediocre character and weak story but the horror and action at least make it readable and even fun.
Tokyo and Samurai have a interesting world and the story could be better than Kamio, but anything else make it less readable.
Beast children have a nice story , good art and some funny moment. Is better than the other series but it isn't better than Saiyuki/Kamio.
This round was weak and worse than last one(which is sad because Kamio and saiyuki have huge flaws ), but I see in the author of tokyo and beast children potential to be good author...

Are we reading the same beast children? The art is totally inconsistent. The characters barely look on model half the time (why does he look like that?!). Also they look very stiff and not emotive. Almost stopped reading after this panel.
Double Taisei is the best of the year so far imo

 

[Jovan]

2.5D Seduction to have a reprint of Vol 1, scheduled for November 1.

 

[Xzone]

Are we reading the same beast children? The art is totally inconsistent. The characters barely look on model half the time (why does he look like that?!). Also they look very stiff and not emotive. Almost stopped reading after this panel.
Double Taisei is the best of the year so far imo

Is not a bad art at all and shine when he have to shine. Is not like Slam dunk art or early Captain Tsubasa/haikyuu(or even ole golazo) paneling, but is not bad, he is also a rookie so he can improve in the following serialization(same with Tokyo Shinobi or even Ohkubo).
Taisei have also good art (Maybe the best of that round), but as a series it have a huge flaw(even bigger than Saiyuki's author pacing or Ohkubo age) is that he doesn't know how to handle a series, he need to find a writer.

 

[Koni]

2.5D Seduction to have a reprint of Vol 1, scheduled for November 1.

Oh, that’s good!

I read the first three chapters and I honestly enjoyed it. I didn’t have the highest expectations for it, so that might play a factor, but I really liked that underneath all the ecchi elements, it’s kinda just a story of a boy and a girl geeking out over their immense love for the same show. I think it’s a good way of showing off chemistry, personally.

It’s got flaws, obviously (the sooner the MC gets rid of his “ew 3D girls” mentality the better, for one) but I had a good time.

 

[Jovan]

I absolutely love the MangaPlus's translation for Interrogation Princess.

 

[Mammo]

I have a theory about Saiyuki
what if the author wanted to do an grand adventure manga but by the time they finished setting up the story the reception wasn't good and the series was getting cancelled so they figured it wasn't worth it? why waste their world ideas on a dead manga?

they kept dragging along the manga aimlessly after that until it got axed, which lasted long since the new eic takes way longer than the old regime to axe stuff

I'm saying this because i don't see how anyone could think keeping the characters in one place for too long was a good idea

Mitama's author know what is he doing.

Naked swan and Mitama Security are both drawn in a shojo manga style
Naked swan and Mitama Security are both fujobait
Mitama Security introduced a third character that want to protect Rina and slowly turning into a reverse harem

are we sure Hatomune isn't a she?

I think it's just a JC Staff thing, though. They did it with Bakuman too.
Even though the quality drop wasn't as big as SnS, the manga was already finished when they did s3.

they're finishing Saiki after the manga is done too
also this season they're finishing up Hi Score Girl although the manga have ended
JC is a force of good

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I'm saying this because i don't see how anyone could think keeping the characters in one place for too long was a good idea

This is something that really bothers me about it, is just baffling that the author and editor really thought that was a good idea to the manga be soooo slow like that, even more considering the author already had a flop before and knows SJ very well, both were asking for Sayuki to be cancelled.

 

[xAsum0x]

What are the signs that he’s cracking under pressure?
For the most part he’s been consistently putting out new chapters every single week, with only a break once every couple months.

The page count is shorter than the earlier days, but it’s still a consistent page count every week.
It seems like he just adjusted to working a comfortable workload for himself

because its code-word for "I dont like the manga currently so I lowkey hope it finishes soon"

 

[Nemesis]

I absolutely love the MangaPlus's translation for Interrogation Princess.

If only they picked more series. It's my dream to get more series since there's about 100 currently out there.

 

[Koni]

If only they picked more series. It's my dream to get more series since there's about 100 currently out there.

There’s so many eligible ones. Perhaps it’s a matter of finding translators or redrawers?