Games Mafia Game 76 - JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo - END GAME

[Crescent Jinx]

I feel like an update to the role list needs to be done with current hints and claims.

Looking at the votes some more. Besides Arjuna, the only other suspicious thing is that Nii and Desin votes for the same person both days. It might be stretching but back in the day, looking for patterns was a thing.

I do have to say Gryffindor’s votes are probably my favorite. I don’t know if he’s just that good a mafia player or he’s legit being logical. But I do know if he’s mafia, he’s probably actively trying to find any other scum in the game.

On D1, none of the known townies votes for Kato - DD, Kato, Farfalla (going to assume she was one).

Pgo - killing action
Daws was Bomb Defuser stando - we know there are at least 1-2 bombs in the game; You add bombs to a game knowing that they are going to kill someone
Poisoner stand
Assassin stand

Mafia can kill with normal roles
Third party can too

Then you got a hider and a potential bodyguard

Like........ pretty much everyone in this game not claimed must be a doctor with all these killing actions running around and nobody Dying

 

[shinobi]

I had pgo...but let others tell it I still have it and still kill...smh

votekill Nii-chan

lol yup, I was counting the active stands XD

 

[gnut]

Question...if I admit that I have pgo...noone says they have that role/stand?
As of yesterday...I should of been a top target for my stand to activate...between blockers/investigators and protection.
But nooooo...janitor kill lol

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Alright. There’s a lot of convolution here. Mafia can easily hide behind it.

@shinobi i see what you mean.

I see also he didn’t answer Nii’s question

Can you blame us?The weird way DD was playing anyone will suspect him.


Now my hint will be something related to knowing...

Well I tried to argue that's how he always acts, but I'll admit that he sort of had it coming lol

Is that about your role? What about your stand? And did you use it already?

No no I mean my stand.

I want to know if you used your stand too . Is that what the no-no is suppose to be? Or was that for that it was your stand?

Nothing extraordinary, just some health related things.

So......

Nii: I must have got blocked by a doctor
Arjuna: Health related things
Nii: Found him
Vandred: .....

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I find it strange that DD used his kill immediately and Nii did too. Then the pgo also went off immediately. Passive kills like from a pgo, would that count toward the mafia number? Cuz mafia ghoul, that kill counts toward the mafia kill total. Apologize if I am re-asking something that was already answered.

 

[gnut]

Gracie....you think Gry would overlook an implemented hider hiding behind scum or overlooking a stand in a scenario?

 

[Gryffindor]

Then I ask what's more likely...
For Gry to overlook a hider hiding behind a scum or overlooking the stand I have/had???

GrySun didn't overlook your allegiance or your Stand. He mixed up the PM's so he had Daws targeting Gajeelnashi instead of you which is why he was alive at the start of D2, once GrySun corrected it he made the necessary adjustments regarding your stand/allegiance.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Gracie....you think Gry would overlook an implemented hider hiding behind scum or overlooking a stand in a scenario?

O.O but I have also been saying even earlier that it could have been something more complicated then that which happened. And that would mean we have no information to make that call. I would hope he wouldn’t overlook either one. I don’t know how a basic stand would get Overlooked. But then I don’t know how hiding behind your killing party would get overlooked either. I know I would probably overlook the second more then the first. Gry might have overlooked the first more.

That’s why I was curious at the kill number for mafia. O.O because we have 2 kill claims Nii with Van and you either Sons. That should maybe show that you two aren’t at least part of the same group? Not much. Unless one kill failed and it activates the pgo kill. Idk.

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O.O idk enough to make that call.

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GrySun didn't overlook your allegiance or your Stand. He mixed up the PM's so he had Daws targeting Gajeelnashi instead of you which is why he was alive at the start of D2, once GrySun corrected it he made the necessary adjustments regarding your stand/allegiance.

Because of Vandred’s result?

 

[Gryffindor]

Because of Vandred’s result?

Because he said it himself. See bold.

Apologies to all players but there’s been a mistake. Daws was supposed to die on N1, but I mistook who his target was and mixed it up with another PM’s target. With the right target he is supposed to have died.

 

[gnut]

Just thinking that spirit has equal÷equal....
DD was regular townie(millar)...Im not a powerful role but my stand is like DD...a killer(possibly)..
Just wondering why a townie would have poisoner stand and also have assasin stand but also choose to use it 1st nite without discussing the possibility

Convenient

 

[Gryffindor]

Yeah it's a bit tricky because it explains the lack of kill on N1, but nobody yet to claim protection on Vandred, though Vandred would be the perfect target for mafia to get rid of right from the start, Farfalla too. So if you think he's guilty the kill list looks reasonable or at least an attempt to get rid of a certain type of player.

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Looks like an attempt to get rid of a certain type of player*

 

[gnut]

Again...what is the effectiveness of having a poisoner...to poison the hider xD

 

[Crescent Jinx]

What’s Nii’s role? It’s passive, but has anything else been said?

 

[gnut]

What’s Nii’s role? It’s passive, but has anything else been said?

He poisoned but was blocked supposedly xD

Great job...doing superb

 

[Crescent Jinx]

#Sarcasm, it’s what gnut cooked for supper

 

[gnut]

#Sarcasm, it’s what gnut cooked for supper

Haha...nah fried chicken and potato wedges xp

Nah....he all like Im afk....not seeing its possible Im really a pgo stand....
But...says he was a stand that has opportunity to use his stand voluntarily has use of his stand gets blocked....I admit I may have killed Daws because of stand..mortician says I dont have any thing to do with it.....I still get the shaft xD

 

[Holt]

Okay got back here and read a bit. I'll be honest, there's just a lot of confusing things going on.

@Crescent Jinx it was hard reading your posts. I mean, you were triggered, but I'm not really sure why..

On Greg, I still think I trust him more than not. @Gryffindor kinda makes the mixup easier to understand. With daws's target being mixed up, it would make sense either way, he could have been legit killed because he hid behind mafia or he could have been counter-killed from Greg's PGO. And worse, these aren't mutually exclusive too. Greg could be a scum with PGO.. I was thinking with the janitor kill yesterday then it feels odd they wouldn't use on Daws but maybe that was a stand too. Vandred's mortician result on Daws of course means either he was killed by PGO or by another stand (in which case the perp would be untraceable?)

Perhaps Gry decided to put most of the powerful roles as stands instead? with Nii being poisoner I can't rule that out. Gry's always been about game balance and roles seemingly being too OP in game setups, the stands feel like a perfect way to work around this? You could still include powerful roles but limit them all to one-time use. Kinda interesting tbh. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, if so maybe we are looking at more regular roles on both townie and mafia side...

Anyway for now, I'll votekill Arjuna
He's like the opposite of DD. Says nothing, deflects everything and just makes random very obvious observation. Pompom is also very inactive. She mentioned early she basically has the same time as Gry to play, Gry's usually here so why doesn't she play?

 

[Gajeel]

I wonder who targeted me during N1 since it wasn't Daws,

votekill gnut

 

[gnut]

I wonder who targeted me during N1 since it wasn't Daws,

votekill gnut

Cause you know you were targeted...how?

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K...gonna eat and sleep.

 

[Gajeel]

Cause you know you were targeted...how?

Oh no, those are two separated things. Since I was posting something, I decided to put my votekill in the post as well because I don't think I'll post again before the day ends. My bad for the confusion,

 

[Crescent Jinx]

A good active role



Initial result said GajeelNashi. I thought about how it could be relevant in implicating or clearing people, but still not sure how important that is as it depends on what kind of host mistake happened. But there you have it, didn't feel like I shouldn't keep the info for myself since I already hate that feeling of having extra knowledge I shouldn't have received.



He did claim it though, although after the mistake was corrected (and he became directly implied in Daws' death). That's what Faffs was about yesterday when she wondered about people not considering the possibility before gnut needed to spell it out himself, plus the fact that he kind of called out on Daws' claim of having targeted him while he was still alive.

Still, to be honest my assumptions that mafia having a PGO Stand would be OP kind of flew out the window with Miller + Assassin, which made me think anything can go in this game lol
And if we were to assume a townie getting a Poisoner Stand is legit, the mafia + PGO idea doesn't look that far-fetched, especially if there's one single mafia.

If the mistake came from player pm mix up. Vandred claim spy and got Gajeel Nashi.

That means someone targeted GajeelNashi.

Daws targeted gnut
X targeted Gajeel Nashi
Vandred saw that

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Or am I confused?