Chapter Tower of God Chapter 462 Spoilers & Discussion

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So... we got to see a discount wangnan this chapter.
I don't think you can get much worse quality than that to begin with?
 

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It makes no sense why she's attacking Baam in the first place. She just heard that Kallavan, Zahard's minion, came to kill her and she just says "welp ok I'm gonna kill your enemy before you kill me". Why did she even fight against Zahard in the beginning?
I thought her side went to war against Zahard because they supported Arlene and V, but maybe she was just caught up in her faction's politics and never wanted to fight for V and Arlene? That's still a bit weird.

I really hope Siu does not make her switch sides again. Let her be Baam's enemy, I'm tired of people switching sides every two minutes. If Siu decides to do something more interesting than making her switch sides, then I'm thinking Baam will maybe defeat her and then White will eat her soul so that he can fight kallavan. Or the fight will linger on until Yama's side is done with their enemy and comes to the rescue.
In both cases, Kallavan and White will probably just wait and watch the fight, making it "safe" for now. Otherwise Baam and White are f*cked because Kallavan is too strong.

Also I think Canne will join Baam's side. She's supposed to be the only one here who kept her memories of the war I think? This makes me think she'll see her sister's action as a betrayal to what she believed in.
 

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i don't think the 10fh waited until till they ended their claim to start having offspring it said mazino has the record of 50 years some of the first offspring may have started climbing before the war started.zahard nature won't allow him to be bested in anything he'll propably have a kid just to shut down eduan.

zahard split the key between the 13 march serie and the ring .the swor is wielded by a powerful princess so it's very hard to obtain all together meanwhile karaka and wangnan who are not even in top 100 have the second half it doesn't make sense to risk it unless the princes like this one and maybe adori must at least in top 20 not to mention qome of his offsprings despise him and actively work to undermine him.

as for dowon i think she won't change her mind unless her sister life is at risk by her own people because canne will at best serve a life sentence for her treason i think will come for the rescue he will hijack the sound system as a soldier and declare a manhunt for canne to be killed on sight or if he bring that creature back and get them out either way it doesn't look good for her sister.
 

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1. I like this realistic turn of events. Influencing hearts and minds into supporting the right things is often more difficult & key than simply achieving things through military might.

2. Kallavan munching on a bag of popcorn at the end of chapter would have been great.

3. 3 types of fashion. A. Insults the wearer. B. Insults observers. C. Insults the wearer and observers. Bam's shirt is type C fo sho. Although it is a great shirt in that Bam might be wounded in the torso area and no one would see him bleed with all the fantastic colors.

4. This appears to confirm Jahad has other children or clones in the tower aside from Wangnan and Karaka. Or perhaps Jahad can change his appearance.
 

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This chapter makes me so angry:

Khanne says the peace is fake and not what her sister fought for. She said her sister would never support zahad. She agreed to free Dowon on white's request.

White and Kallavan say Dowon is a warrior who lives for the battle

Dowon's team tried to assassinate zahad too. Would she kill them too?

Her Master told her about Baam, but she's gonna ignore him for some strange kid?

It better be a test to make sure baam is the real deal
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Karakka is a baby Slayer, tho I thought of him immediately when the "Wangnan" popped up, I think this is another brother. Karakka isn't old enough to be previous to Dowon sealing.
Idea Karaka was once loyal to his father. Eventually like Enna learned more, betrayed him and zahad wiped his memory, he's only been a fug member for a while, but innately so strong that's risen like crazy, thus a baby slayer
 

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It better be a test to make sure baam is the real deal
Agree,it could be test,or even show for Kallav.Maybe,her real power has not been awakened and she play for time and wait,cause now she may lose.
But,if SIU choose to make D real enemy for so stupid reason....so it's really shit,and if he will change her mind to make only then Baam's ally,aka Yama,Doom,etc...It will be more horrible.The way when D is enemy will be better.
 

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I thought the same thing but the implication appears to be that v and arlen were long gone by the era of genesis... To dowon both of them were merely legends.
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So... we got to see a discount wangnan this chapter. I am going to guess this connects to the princes of zahard... We know wangnan and karaka are old but it seems like they are too young to have been around during genesis. Would wangnan have even lived that long without being a ranker? I suppose this also shows that at least around genesis the princes of zahard were doing legitimate work for the empire...
This actually makes sense that Zahard already had active princes by the genesis time, considering we know that the Lo Po Bia family already had up to 23 family branches of sons at the same time. The guy we just saw could have been the strongest Prince ever and even the first, reason for his great adventure stories and calling himself "a boss".
 

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I wonder if the princes were/are more like what Arie does: they get sent out, get strong, and get absorbed back into Zahard somehow. Or something like that.
 

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This chapter makes me so angry:

Khanne says the peace is fake and not what her sister fought for. She said her sister would never support zahad. She agreed to free Dowon on white's request.

White and Kallavan say Dowon is a warrior who lives for the battle

Dowon's team tried to assassinate zahad too. Would she kill them too?

Her Master told her about Baam, but she's gonna ignore him for some strange kid?

It better be a test to make sure baam is the real deal

Dowon fought and sacrificed everything for her country.

She returned home only to have in essence the people she fought for spit on her and call her a baby killer.

Then along comes chibi Jahad to whisper sweet lies in her ear and in her vulnerable state, she fell for it.

It happens all the time.
 

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Dowon switching sides is exactly what was needed to make things more interesting.

S.I.U tipped the scales back into Kallavan's favour. He is no longer outnumbered and has a powerful ally meaning our protagonists will have a much tougher fight ahead of them. Can't wait to see how they pull it off. That guy who showed up in the flashback is 100% Zahard in a disguise. I don't think he is a prince like Wangnan,
 

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Most of the artwork in this chapter are amazing tho
That part with Baam threatening Delete
When Kallavan started running, damn i felt the drive
And Baam's face after he was attacked by Dowon, so priceless!

Anyway maybe Dowon does not think Kallavan can do anything to her, cant believe she just ignored him.

Baam as always, a merciful knight will charm her of course.

We have Delete to tell Dowon that Baam isnt a bad guy, he just spared his life.

That attack did not feel lethal to me, she even made sure he knew she was about to attack, cant believe she would just kill Baam along with his friends, she shouldnt be pulling lets sacrifice the small for the many mentality here, she has already suffered from a similar situation.
I still believe its just all a ruse. The Jahad guy maybe told her more we dont know about. "If u fight him, u will lose" "Ur first attack wont work on him" I just hope she and Baam have a conversation first before Baam responds in power.

If she is truly an enemy, level 2 refined red ethryssa should do the job, not that i think Baam has the guts to do it.
 

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Seems that lately SIU really likes to break Baam's clothes.

I hope he learns with this and starts breaking Androsi, Hwa Ryun, Lilial, Shilial, Yehwa, etc.'s clothes.



Nah, V should be dead when that flashback occurred.
no one is ever truely gone
 

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S.I.U tipped the scales back into Kallavan's favour.
Except that the scales were never out of Kallavan's favor to begin with, because the people who constituted the numbers difference were such inferior quality compared to him. It was essentially a bunch of ants and a single rat trying to take down a wolf.

This feels like just manufacturing drama for drama's sake, and it makes Dowon look fickle and dumb to just wake up and immediately decide to do Zahard's dirty work for him.
 

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Baam is going to fight Dowon! Wow SIU is amazing
He needs to tame the b*tch first, before he could catch her and add her to his harem.
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That's the first thing I noticed, he looks like Jiu Viole Grace, while most of the towns folk there have elven ears.(That person is surely related to Baam.)
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There are too many Jahad look alike in this manhwa. I'm guessing that's one of Ja Wangnan's missing bro, just like Karaka.


(Or Jahad could have given Kalla something that could mess Khane/Dowon's memory when she awakened, another one of his I can manipulate fate schemes.)


Another theory is that there are 2 Jahad's. The kind one who climbed the Tower and the evil one that Edan suspects as an impostor, after Jahad became a king.
 

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is it possible V as well has children we don't know about?
 

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To people expecting this Guy to be Karakka, lets think of proportions among rankers. There are 100,000 Rankers, of which 1.000 are High Rankers. If lets say 1/2 is comprised of Nobles, people with last names or special families, that's still 50,000 rankers from 10 families or similar, and 50,000 "talented nobodies" (Hatsu and Leesoo type).

Now take 50,000 and divide It by all special races in the Tower. Khun, Ha, Arie... and add in a smaller proportion Native Ones, Jahad clones. Add in also this "elven Race". Splitting 50,000 among these, at a ratio of 1 Native One to 100 nobles, which is much much lower, and 1/10 of that for Jahad clones, you get: 1001.1X= 50,000
X= 50
Total number of 10Family Rankers of each family = 5,000
Total number of Native One Rankers = 50
Total number of Jahad clones = 5

And that is assuming Jahad really kept his pants on, having 1 kid/clone/whatever for each 1000 children from every other GW fellow, making Wangnan a 1/10,000 case. And that although they Control the Tower and have priviledges, 10family children would only make up half of total Rankers. Imo If this is inacurate, then It should be even more of the total not less than that. They should be the higher percentage of regulars that make It up to Ranker, I am being cautious on this.

Getting to the point: I highly doubt Wangnan and Karakka are the only of their kind, whatever they turn out to be.
 

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I thought the same thing but the implication appears to be that v and arlen were long gone by the era of genesis... To dowon both of them were merely legends.
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So... we got to see a discount wangnan this chapter. I am going to guess this connects to the princes of zahard... We know wangnan and karaka are old but it seems like they are too young to have been around during genesis. Would wangnan have even lived that long without being a ranker? I suppose this also shows that at least around genesis the princes of zahard were doing legitimate work for the empire...
I don't think that V look-alike is on that panel by accident. If we look at it carefully, he is on middle, he is the first one we see, quite different from others and looks too much like V and baam. I never believed about the suicide story about V anyway.
 

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You mean with someone other than Arlen?
yeah
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it's true 10 FH have way more rankers but the power isn't equally distributed someone like kalavan is worth an army of HR of yuri and karaka calibre someone like mazino could propably end all of them in about a minute.Ancient species were exterminated but the workshop is still active and their machine can replicate blackhole sphere we don't if that monster baam faced is one time wonder or if their is an army of them.
 
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