Except not your make sense ur saying that natsu was holding back against zero and Jellal cuz neither of them didn’t die same with hades bro once again going all out=/=killing intent cuz by ur logic every fight in fiction history. The MCs is always holding back
so u actually believed that elfman and lisanna was holding back against ajeel
Against Ajeel I think they were definitely holding back. Didn't you see that awesome anime scene where Ajeel was knocked to the ground by the unison punch of base Elfman with no takeover plus Lisanna in bunny form. I think they didn't need to go full strength against him. Elfman even abandon sand beast takeover when Lissana came to help.
Against Ajeel I think they were definitely holding back. Didn't you see that awesome anime scene where Ajeel was knocked to the ground by the unison punch of base Elfman with no takeover plus Lisanna in bunny form. I think they didn't need to go full strength against him. Elfman even abandon sand beast takeover when Lissana came to help.
keep in mind that Natsu and Co were actually inside that with their own body and mind while Acno was just mind pretty much while his real form was outside so even if that was the case, they shouldn't be relative IMO.
For eg:
Bradman should've one shot Levy (no need for explanation. She's weaker than season 1 Lucy)
Eileen should've one shot Wendy (she was in her base, her human form is at least Erza tier in stats, should've blitz and one shot at least sometime during the fight)
keep in mind that Natsu and Co were actually inside that with their own body and mind while Acno was just mind pretty much while his real form was outside so even if that was the case, they shouldn't be relative IMO.
Acno wanted to use their soul for regulating energy or some shit. So it seems like they were all souls. Don't know where their real bodies got teleported to though.
How can their real bodies fight a soul? That makes no sense. I think Natsu vs wratih kinda showed what I mean here.
It's kinda weird tho, I agree. No explanation at all regarding this
For eg:
Bradman should've one shot Levy (no need for explanation. She's weaker than season 1 Lucy)
Eileen should've one shot Wendy (she was in her base, her human form is at least Erza tier in stats, should've blitz and one shot at least sometime during the fight)
Acno wanted to use their soul for regulating energy or some shit. So it seems like they were all souls. Don't know where their real bodies got teleported to though.
How can their real bodies fight a soul? That makes no sense. I think Natsu vs wratih kinda showed what I mean here.
It's kinda weird tho, I agree. No explanation at all regarding this
I can excuse Lissana lol. She's more powerful that what we give her credit for.
Also, Elfman's sand beast being around her forever means that he can protect her from Ajeel's only source of damage.
Amaterasu took down Makarov and Laxus, but couldn't down Lucy
Gajeel went with murderous intent against Grimoire fodder, didn't he. Can't remember the fight clearly. He did say he can't lose that he was FT member.
Acno could oneshot all of them within the spirit world as well. But yes, he would be stronger in the real world because his real world body was a dragon.
I just chalk up the reason they were able to beat Acnologia as Fairy Sphere crippling him, and Natsu receiving a massive POF boost from hearing Lucy's voice.
Also Erza was probably stronger than Natsu during the beginning of series. But the difference wasn't massive like the difference between Laxus and Natsu. Laxus could basically oneshot Natsu and Gajeel combined with enough power to spare to cast Fairy Law, which would have oneshot everyone in the guild. Erza caught up to Laxus' level when she unlocked second origin.
He only truly surpasses Erza with DF. Natsu w/o it had trouble with Tempester while Erza was fighting a way stronger demon lol.
Erza in Alvarez was capable of catching an enraged Natsu punch and Gray bloodlusted punch easily. Only time Natsu is outright stronger in Alvarez is with DF. Base is weaker and FDKM is in her ballpark.
Not the S-Class. They never got stronger until post timeskip and it was made clear when Erza didn't use her strongest armor until Edolas where she stalemated herself lol. She didn't any upgrades from that fight and wasn't training for S-class unlike Natsu. S-class power were stagnant.
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BoS Erza was WS level lol. She didn't get stronger through out the entire series until SO. We know this bcs she never used her strongest armor until Edolas and afterwards her strongest armor was still in the shop since it was destroyed that arc. She also wasn't stated to train unlike Natsu and the others for the S-Class. Erza last villian was Azuma which Mira could handle at full power and Mira was out of shape as a wizard and didn't even train until post skip either. S-Class powers were stagnant till they actually trained or gained SO.
She did that after tanking a Jupiter Canon to the face which severely weakened her. Jose also was not a low level WS as he was capable of damaging Makarov and there magical pressure clashing was pulsating all the way to Eastern Forest which is a long distance away. Jose was strong for being able to battle against a Makarov who didn't have heart problems at the time lol.
BoS Erza wasn't WS level, she stood no chance against Jose and Jellal was able to compete against her without using Heavenly Body Magic. Erza being WS level is funny because whenever she faced a WS tiered opponent she didn't look great against them. Bullshit, every character grows in strength and progresses, Erza is not exempt from this. Erza not using her strongest armor doesn't mean she didn't improve without it. Mira couldn't handle Azuma at full strength, she fought against him and Azuma didn't resort to utilizing the magic power from Tenrou. And Mira's strength blatantly improved as well. Freid was able to damage Mira quite a bit and swap hands with her in the FF, compare that to being able tango with Azuma even if he wasn't going all out.
Jose is a low-med level WS fighter, he was able to swap hands with Makarov when he didn't use giant magic and got destroyed the moment Makarov went all out.
Mira couldn't handle Azuma at full strength, she fought against him and Azuma didn't resort to utilizing the magic power from Tenrou. And Mira's strength blatantly improved as
Mirajane would’ve been completely capable of taking out Azuma. She was on par and if not preforming better than him while weakened and put on time a constraint.
Mirajane would’ve been completely capable of taking out Azuma. She was on par and if not preforming better than him while weakened and put on time a constraint.
