Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[yadayada]

Surprised no one here has reacted to the confirmation Kimetsu is at its climax, considering the amount of people arguing Jump wasn't going to let it end.

If true and they don't pull random bs last second, that's really good. There's really nowhere else the series can go at this point the way it's looking anyways.

Is Kimetsu bigger than Ansatsu now?

By quite a big margin.

Mangaplus is great.

Conceptually it is, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[savethecat]

Shonen Jump App >> Mangaplus.

Both are good though

 

[Halloween]

Shonen Jump App >> Mangaplus.

Both are good though

I just noticed there's a Viz app, a SJ app and the mangaplus app.

I mean, between the Viz and SJ one, which are you supposed to use?

 

[Aeneas]

I just noticed there's a Viz app, a SJ app and the mangaplus app.

I mean, between the Viz and SJ one, which are you supposed to use?

Definitely some overlap.

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[pamuchi]

Surprised no one here has reacted to the confirmation Kimetsu is at its climax, considering the amount of people arguing Jump wasn't going to let it end.

I mean, it's been at its climax for like a year ago. Also I have seen the same with Neverland, some ppl said it would end last year but it's still going despite the bunch of its at its climax, the endgame by the magazine.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I mean, it's been at its climax for like a year ago. Also I have seen the same with Neverland, some ppl said it would end last year but it's still going despite the bunch of its at its climax, the endgame by the magazine.

I mean, of course. But a lot of people have been arguing Jump would "force" Gotoge to continue (ignoring the numerous logic problems with that) past the final arc. Look through the thread and you'll see it come up basically every time we discuss the series sales.

 

[savethecat]

I just noticed there's a Viz app, a SJ app and the mangaplus app.

I mean, between the Viz and SJ one, which are you supposed to use?

I thing you could use both. I primarily stick with the Jump app though and don’t open the Viz app too often

 

[Rain Spectre]

Question, do you guys think it's possible to do a truly worldscale story like One Piece or Toriko without sacrificing character writing and development? Because I'm honestly starting to think you can't.

 

[WyldViolet]

Question, do you guys think it's possible to do a truly worldscale story like One Piece or Toriko without sacrificing character writing and development? Because I'm honestly starting to think you can't.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes did that on a galactic scale.
Hunter x Hunter has done/is doing that within Jump even.
It just takes a very skilled and passionate writer.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 19, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 19, 2020 ---

Been toying with rereading Bakuman again so here's a question; Out of the fictional series and oneshots in Bakuman, what are some you think would fit in well and be successful with the current climate of Jump? What are one or two that would not be?

From my memory I think Road Racer Giri, Zombie Gun, Hideout Door, and True Human could do really well right now.
PCP seems like it'd get cancelled quickly right now.

 

[tirakai]

In regards to Kimetsu no Yaiba, don't forget Gintama had an "epilogue" that turned into a whole extra final final arc that took more than a year to finish.

Though granted that was because of Sorachi's inability to end it rather than jump's, they even kicked him out the magazine because he was taking too long.

 

[Rain Spectre]

In regards to Kimetsu no Yaiba, don't forget Gintama had an "epilogue" that turned into a whole extra final final arc that took more than a year to finish.

Though granted that was because of Sorachi's inability to end it rather than jump's, they even kicked him out the magazine because he was taking too long.

Yeah. There is a giant story in the final databook presented as a true crime story about how badly Sorachi screwed up.

 

[tirakai]

Something I'm thinking might happen again with the new series is the least 'typical Jump'-feeling series will survive. I suppose it's probably always true but it feels like, recently in particular, there's been a lot of new series that want to specifically be the new big very obviously Jump series with their tone and ideas rather than being a normal enjoyable series that could also work elsewhere. And they've all failed pretty badly.

 

[101nemesis]

Been toying with rereading Bakuman again so here's a question; Out of the fictional series and oneshots in Bakuman, what are some you think would fit in well and be successful with the current climate of Jump? What are one or two that would not be?

From my memory I think Road Racer Giri, Zombie Gun, Hideout Door, and True Human could do really well right now.
PCP seems like it'd get cancelled quickly right now.

Road Race Giri, for sure.
I was actually wondering why WSJ has not tried serializing a racing series the last decade or two.

But I guess you'll need someone with exceptional art to pull that off. Murata would be the ideal candidate for this.

 

[tirakai]

There was a successful drifting manga on Jump+ that just ended recently (Dricam), though it was a vertical manga so it couldn't have worked in WSJ.

 

[Thundercat27]

Talking about Bakuman fiction manga and not a single mention of Otter 11

 

[101nemesis]

Talking about Bakuman fiction manga and not a single mention of Otter 11

Could be the next Gintama.

 

[Halloween]

Remember the serious humor (IIRC) chapter in Bakuman? I remember so many people commenting that Bleach was doing that. Although, I'm vaguely recalling the details. It might not even be serious humor, but something else.

 

[perroloco]

I haven't read Kimetsu No Yaiba, but I was (Still am) one of the users in the "Jump won't let Kimetsu end so early" bandwagon.

But what exactly does Jump consider a "climax"? The last arc? Or the last stretch of the last arc?

Because there are plenty of series where last arcs ran for like 20 volumes.. Heck, for example, I remember back when I read Dai No Daiboken in like 2005 (And I had no idea it was a 38 volume series IIRC) I kept buying the volumes every month, I think the last arc started around volume 20ish and it ended up having 38 volumes! So yeah "Climax" is such a vague word and authors can extend said climax or final arcs, that a manga can be in its "climax" for like 2-3 years lol..

Talking about the word climax, didn't Jump use that very same word (I dunno if it was literally said in Japanese or it was translated or something) but didn't they use the same wording or something similar during the whole last arc of BLEACH (I think it lasted for like 20ish volumes or something?)

So yeah.. Climax is just too vague lol, even if Kimetsu is in its last arc it could just pull a Dai No Daiboken/Naruto and extend it to like 15 volumes lol

 

[Franz]

I honestly doubt that Kimetsu can go on for another twenty volumes .....

 

[tirakai]

From what we've seen in the past, climax means the final main battle/final conflict. Not necessarily the end though, every time we get something saying 'the final climax next issue!' there's always people assuming that means its the final chapter and it never is, epilogues come after the climax. Sometimes it's just 1 chapter, sometimes its 30+, but there's usually something extra.