Fantasy Laxus vs Strauss Siblings

[Ramen]

I said low-mid. Somewhere between low diff and mid diff.
Elfman is underrated, the guy stalemated Madmole, Laxus isn't taking him down with the same ease he did against Kiria.

Mira stalemated Skullion as well. He seems to be the leader of this group. So, I guess that warrant a mid diff from Laxus.
Where do you think Mira is, compared to unbuffed Erza? I think she can give unbuffed Erza high diff, and I think unbuffed Erza can give Laxus mid-high diff. So I think Mira can give him a mid diff

Stalemating Madmole is a good feat but Madmole has terrible offense. Laxus wouldn't have that hard of a time stalemating him either. Not like Kyria but nothing past mid-high diff.

Mira compared to unbuffed Erza, Erza is still much stronger, I need to see more from Mira before I give her the benefit of the doubt. Erza could also most likely stalemate Skullion

 

[Fyron]

@August_Lightning Gray with slayer advantage oneshotted Mard when attack landed. The guy who shrugged off attacks from DF Natsu. DF Natsu destroyed Jellal , who was Laxus' equal during GMG and Tartaros. You're saying Tartaros Laxus can oneshot Mard like Gray did ? You serious ? Gray with slayer advantage does better than Laxus against demons .

That being said , I hope Gray defeats Mira next chapter , since Gray has a slayer advantage and she is weakened. We've seen how much slayer advantage works in a fight ( Erza seriously damaged Irene with one hit , who was an August tier mage ). If Mira is able to hold against Gray despite being weakened and him having slayer advantage , then it's absolutely wanking Mira off at that point because I can't picture even Gildarts pulling this off in a similar position.

 

[Ramen]

@August_Lightning Gray with slayer advantage oneshotted Mard when attack landed. The guy who shrugged off attacks from DF Natsu. DF Natsu destroyed Jellal , who was Laxus' equal during GMG and Tartaros. You're saying Tartaros Laxus can oneshot Mard like Gray did ? You serious ? Gray with slayer advantage does better than Laxus against demons .

That being said , I hope Gray defeats Mira next chapter , since Gray has a slayer advantage and she is weakened. We've seen how much slayer advantage works in a fight ( Erza seriously damaged Irene with one hit , who was an August tier mage ). If Mira is able to hold against Gray despite being weakened and him having slayer advantage , then it's absolutely wanking Mira off at that point because I can't picture even Gildarts pulling this off in a similar position.

Wow Gray with DeS would do better against demons than Laxus? Who would've thought. I never said that. I said Laxus has much better stats.

Idrc about that fight at this point. It's going to be off panel anyways

 

[Fyron]

Wow Gray with DeS would do better against demons than Laxus? Who would've thought. I never said that. I said Laxus has much better stats.

Idrc about that fight at this point. It's going to be off panel anyways

Much better stats ? So you saying Laxus can oneshot Mard ?

 

[Ramen]

Much better stats ? So you saying Laxus can oneshot Mard ?

Dude what are you talking about? We are talking current events. Laxus was sick during that arc anyways.

As of rn, Laxus would one shot Mard and destroy Gray

Does that answer your question?

 

[Fyron]

Dude what are you talking about? We are talking current events. Laxus was sick during that arc anyways.

As of rn, Laxus would one shot Mard and destroy Gray?

Does that answer your question?

Nope , let's forget he was sick and was handicapped. I'm talking about pre poisoning.

Are you implying Tartaros Laxus before being poisoned by Tempester could've oneshotted Mard like Gray did ? The guy who shrugged off attacks from DF Natsu ?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Idrc about that fight at this point. It's going to be off panel anyways

I doubt it will be offpanel since Gray is one of the main characters. This will mostly depend on if Hiro wants to limit this arc to somewhere close to water god dragon arc.

 

[Ramen]

Nope , let's forget he was sick and was handicapped. I'm talking about pre poisoning.

Are you implying Tartaros Laxus before being poisoned by Tempester could've oneshotted Mard like Gray did ? The guy who shrugged off attacks from DF Natsu ?

How are we going to forget him being sick when he was sick the whole arc?

Who knows, that's a big if. We don't know what laxus could've done that arc because he was sick the whole time. I really don't understand what you are saying.

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I doubt it will be offpanel since Gray is one of the main characters. This will mostly depend on if Hiro wants to limit this arc to somewhere close to water god dragon arc.

I think it will, then he has more time to deal with Aldoron

 

[Fyron]

How are we going to forget him being sick when he was sick the whole arc?

Who knows, that's a big if. We don;t know what laxus could've done that arc because he was sick the whole time. I really don't understand what you are saying

You said Laxus can do much better than Gray against demons despite Gray having a slaying advantage.

So I'm asking a question. Do you think Laxus , during Tartaros , before being poisoned by Tempester , could've oneshotted Mard if he were to fight him 1v1 ? Because Gray did. So according to you , Laxus should do much better than him. Despite Gray having an advantage against demons.

Tartaros Laxus is the same as GMG Laxus as he didn't get much strong between the arcs.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I think it will, then he has more time to deal with Aldoron

I don't mind that. We will get to see @Jko rage after all.

 

[Ramen]

You said Laxus can do much better than Gray against demons despite Gray having a slaying advantage.

So I'm asking a question. Do you think Laxus , during Tartaros , before being poisoned by Tempester , could've oneshotted Mard if he were to fight him 1v1 ? Because Gray did. So according to you , Laxus should do much better than him. Despite Gray having an advantage against demons.

Tartaros Laxus is the same as GMG Laxus as he didn't get much strong between the arcs.

Bruh, I said Laxus is stronger than Gray. I REPEAT LAXUS IS STRONGER THAN GRAY. Against Demons Gray does better, I said that earlier.

No because he was heavily sick. Just because Gray one shot Mard doesn't mean he's stronger than Laxus. Laxus throughout the entire show, has been ahead of Gray and Gray in no arc has been stronger than him.

GMG Gray was weak asf, he only got strong during Tartaros

Like are you trying to say Gray>Laxus? Because if you are then.....lol

 

[Fyron]

Bruh, I said Laxus is stronger than Gray. I REPEAT LAXUS IS STRONGER THAN GRAY. Against Demons Gray does better, I said that earlier.

No because he was heavily sick. Just because Gray one shot Mard doesn't mean he's stronger than Laxus. Laxus throughout the entire show, has been ahead of Gray and Gray in no arc has been stronger than him.

GMG Gray was weak asf, he only got strong during Tartaros

Like are you trying to say Gray>Laxus, because if you are then.....lol

I never said Gray>Laxus because of this.

Pardon if I read something wrong , but I think the argument went like this : @Seven777 said due to Gray having a slaying advantage against Mira , if she wins then that would put her at Erza tier ( which imo should put her a lot higher because I think slaying advantage is much greater ). You said that won't put her at Laxus tier since Laxus can do better than Gray against demons , since the argument was that Mira is a demon and Gray should have slaying advantage against her. So , that means a healthy GMG Laxus should've done better than Gray against Mard since he can do better against Mira than Gray despite Gray having slaying advantage against Mira , who is a demon. Aren't I right ?

 

[Ramen]

I never said Gray>Laxus because of this.

Pardon if I read something wrong , but I think the argument went like this : @Seven777 said due to Gray having a slaying advantage against Mira , if she wins then that would put her at Erza tier ( which imo should put her a lot higher because I think slaying advantage is much greater ). You said that won't put her at Laxus tier since Laxus can do better than Gray against demons , since the argument was that Mira is a demon and Gray should have slaying advantage against her. So , that means a healthy GMG Laxus should've done better than Gray against Mard since he can do better against Mira than Gray despite Gray having slaying advantage against Mira , who is a demon. Aren't I right ?

Lol no you aren't. I said Laxus has better stats than Gray. He then replied with the demon argument after which I agree with. Then I replied with if there is a slayer advantage, then that's a different story.

I also said depending on how the fight goes, then I would make my decision on Mira

 

[Kiki]

Interesting match-up. OP: "Unrestricted and everyone is bloodlusted". Will Fairy Law work on the siblings? Will Macro work on him? Will the fall of Elfman and Lisanna make Mira's bloodlust bloodlust^2? Interesting

 

[Fyron]

Lol no you aren't. I said Laxus has better stats than Gray. He then replied with the demon argument after which I agree with. Then I replied with if there is a slayer advantage, then that's a different story.

I also said depending on how the fight goes, then I would make my decision on Mira

Oh okay may be I read wrong. Sorry in that case.

 

[GL_Nova]

I said low-mid. Somewhere between low diff and mid diff.
Elfman is underrated, the guy stalemated Madmole, Laxus isn't taking him down with the same ease he did against Kiria.

Mira stalemated Skullion as well. He seems to be the leader of this group. So, I guess that warrant a mid diff from Laxus.
Where do you think Mira is, compared to unbuffed Erza? I think she can give unbuffed Erza high diff, and I think unbuffed Erza can give Laxus mid-high diff. So I think Mira can give him a mid diff

But she can’t though? Unbuffed Erza got literally 1 shot out of her armor.

 

[grey matter]

@August_Lightning Gray with slayer advantage oneshotted Mard when attack landed. The guy who shrugged off attacks from DF Natsu. DF Natsu destroyed Jellal , who was Laxus' equal during GMG and Tartaros. You're saying Tartaros Laxus can oneshot Mard like Gray did ? You serious ? Gray with slayer advantage does better than Laxus against demons .

That being said , I hope Gray defeats Mira next chapter , since Gray has a slayer advantage and she is weakened. We've seen how much slayer advantage works in a fight ( Erza seriously damaged Irene with one hit , who was an August tier mage ). If Mira is able to hold against Gray despite being weakened and him having slayer advantage , then it's absolutely wanking Mira off at that point because I can't picture even Gildarts pulling this off in a similar position.

It seems they're forgetting that Gray has Slayer advantage against demons.
Even Lucy didn't mention it. I think they will ignore devil slaying advantage versus Mira -_-

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But she can’t though? Unbuffed Erza got literally 1 shot out of her armor.

Her fire pants can. Erza is an absolute tank, she doesn't need defense to keep taking Laxus attacks.
I don't know why her even requips now LMAO. Red pants + infinite tankiness of Erza has made her requip almost entirely useless except for very rare niche situations

 

[Jko]

Erza was never buffed... and oneshotting her out of lightning empress is weak sauce as she always and I mean always gets fodderize in her garbo armors. She literally got smashed by sheathed Kagura then literally blocked unsheathe Kagura with no armor and a basic sword once she stopped playing lol. The same happened with Laxus. DSeal only gives the ability to use DS attribute which doesn't buff you stat wise.

 

[grey matter]

Erza was never buffed... and oneshotting her out of lightning empress is weak sauce as she always and I mean always gets fodderize in her garbo armors. She literally got smashed by sheathed Kagura then literally blocked unsheathe Kagura with no armor and a basic sword once she stopped playing lol. The same happened with Laxus. DSeal only gives the ability to use DS attribute which doesn't buff you stat wise.

Agreed on armour part. Requip is useless now.

As for Dragon seal. (Credits to @Jean Grey for this) You've got to choose one of the below:
- dragon seal amps her stats
- dragon seal makes her powerful against dragon slayers
- dragon seal does nothing

Option 3 is out of the window, because then why would she bother activating it?
Choose between 1 & 2

 

[Jko]

Agreed on armour part. Requip is useless now.

As for Dragon seal. (Credits to @Jean Grey for this) You've got to choose one of the below:
- dragon seal amps her stats
- dragon seal makes her powerful against dragon slayers
- dragon seal does nothing

Option 3 is out of the window, because then why would she bother activating it?
Choose between 1 & 2

It's 3 and nothing throws it out the window lol. She used DSeal so she can enchant DS powers into her weapons. Her enchanted weapons are stronger than her non enchanted weapons as enchanting a weapon makes it stronger.

Spoiler

Nothing of a stat buff was ever shown in the fight. DS is only effective on Dragons and DS aren't dragons.