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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file
 
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Let's not start bizarre nonsensical conspiracy theories.
Regardless of if its a man or woman, why would they need to point out the gender of two of their assistants if all of them were male?
He probably has assistants of both genders hence the need to differentiate.

Not to mention Yoshifumi is a male name.
And it's not like the gender of the creator changes the contents of the manga, also.
 

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Mashle is weird, like some guys mention too, I have a serious One Punch Man, Mob ( One) Vibe.
If I think about it, I didnt like the 1 Chapter.
Lets see how it develops.
 

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Mashle was...what was that, exactly? I understand the ONE comparisons all right, but overall the whole thing was just a baffling read. The ameturish nature of it is on full display as well, lots of jokes are built on copying panels, and even the panels which aren't copied tend to lack detail. Aside from the final spread, which kinda suggests to me it isn't an artistic choice.

Also, for a gag manga, I felt it took itself way too seriously at points. Like, to where it actively took me out of the experience.

As for the other uncertains, Zipman is boring, Agravity is pointless, and UU I'm gonna have to give a bit more time to see where it goes.
 

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Mashle was...what was that, exactly?
I feel like you say this same thing about every new series that do something unusual, it was with Taisei, Yui, Mitama, Agravity, Undead and now Mashle, why you're always in some state of confusion reading this series? :p
 

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Last time we also got the volume cover really closer to the volume date.
Given the frightening success it had, I thought they would preview it as in the case of One Piece.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Anyway the new series didn't interest me at all
 

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Just realized that the dumbledore character and the girl on the cover both don't show up in ch1 for Mashle. Interesting.
Funnily enough, the same thing happened in SPY x FAMILY, where Yoru was already part of the family on the color pages for Chapter 1, but was only introduced in Chapter 2.
 

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Mashle was fucking hilarious, haven't laughed that hard for a gag series in years.

This week

Mashle >>>> Chainsaw > Act-age > Undead > Bokuben > rest
 

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Mashle had a decent first chapter. Some parts of it made me laugh a little bit, more so than Agravity's first chapter did. Seems like the classmates will start being introduced in the next chapter or 2, which really makes or breaks a comedy series. However, the artwork is pretty basic, which can sometimes play in one's favor, I think this hurts series more often than it helps them. The artwork isn't as awful as Seiji Tanaka, but I'd rank this the same quality as Invade You.

This has been one of my ongoing concerns for Mitama's popularity since I find the art style to be its weakest point, but I've been growing used to it and the most recent color page definitely captured that family-esque soothing vibe it was going for. The conclusion to Mitama's baseball arc was also brilliant: heartfelt and funny. I'm really hoping that the first volume of this sells well. I'm not sure if my heart could handle this getting axed after losing David-kun and Double Taisei. I hope that evil spirit user will return again soon.

Undead Unluck's second chapter was much better for me than the first one. Although I felt neutrally towards the first chapter, I will give it to the author that they seem to be excellent at pacing their chapters. Both of these chapters had the perfect balance of comedy, action, backstory, foreshadowing, plot, and PLOT. I wasn't really expecting the story to go in this type of direction for our main duo, but I'm pleasantly surprised by the turn of events. If the next chapter is this good, I'll start to feel more optimistic for its future.

Agravity Boys is just so dull. I find myself smirking maybe a couple times tops during each chapter. Most of the time there's nothing wrong with the chapter, but there's not really anything great about it either. Every chapter just ends with me going "oh, alright then" and moving on. Each chapter just seems to throw huge passages of text onto each page, which greatly hurt Saiyuki's reception. I was hoping by now we'd have more alien interaction and planet exploration than what we've gotten. The author literally has a setting where they could make up whatever zany design or phenomenon they want, and they have chapter after chapter of them in the ship with a token poop joke. My guess is the first chapter will rank in the middle, but it'll sink quickly if chapters like this keep getting pumped out.

Yozakura's chapter was alright this week as well. Interested to see what will happen next with this upcoming plot development. The series is definitely in a shaky spot right now, but not more so than new series typically tend to be. If I recall correctly, Poro sold about 15k for its first volume, so do you guys think Yozakura will sell more, less or the same as Poro? I think if it manages to sell 15k, it'll be safe for the time being as long as either 1) its second volume doesn't plummet and/or 2) every other newbie is unexpectedly a massive hit.

No comment on Zipman since it was dropped after chapter 3 for being too boring, me finding the MCs to be tedious, and me being unable to stop thinking I opened a chapter of BnHA every time I'd try reading it lol.

My top 5 for this week would go as follows:

1. We Never Learn - I really can't wait to see what'll happen next week, but I'm not sure if my heart can take the potential outcome.
2. Mitama - Amazing conclusion to a fairly serious arc that the author totally knocked out of the park.
3. Act-Age - Those last few pages really had me cheering, just like if I was an audience member.
4. Undead Unluck - I'm now very curious to see what direct the story will take.
5. Mashle - I was torn between this and Yozakura, but I'll give this one the benefit of the doubt for having a decent first chapter, especially for a total newbie author
My rankings would be a bit different in order but yeah, those are my top 5 on this week as well. :P
 

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In the Japanese raws, Agravity Boys had an editor notice at the beginning of the chapter.
大人気話題沸騰 aka "A very popular hot/boiling topic!" Source: WSJ Discord.


I mean, Jump claimed early on Samurai 8 had "great reception", soooo wouldn't put that much stake in it....
 

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I mean, Jump claimed early on Samurai 8 had "great reception", soooo wouldn't put that much stake in it....
Of course it would be popular early on as a Kishimoto follow-up manga, as the hype was big. I would have been surprised if it wasn't the case.
The fact it lost that shouldn't be the reason to blame the editors.
 

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I mean, Jump claimed early on Samurai 8 had "great reception", soooo wouldn't put that much stake in it....
And Samurai 8 sold 30k copies, which we all know was low for what it probably should have, but if Agravity Boys did anything near that with it's first volume that'd be huge.
 

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Speaking of Agravity boys, for me it's slowly becoming a slice of life lol.
 

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In the Japanese raws, Agravity Boys had an editor notice at the beginning of the chapter.
大人気話題沸騰 aka "A very popular hot/boiling topic!" Source: WSJ Discord.


They usually use this with the color pages, hit or not. Although this isn't a color page so we will see if it's popular or not
 

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Really enjoyed Mashle. You can definitely feel the ONE influence, both in the writing and the art somewhat.
 

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I mean, Jump claimed early on Samurai 8 had "great reception", soooo wouldn't put that much stake in it....
Thats a very bad comparison, why would editors be claiming that a new manga with only 6 chapters and by a nobody is popular if is not? Will not be any surprise if at least the first chapters were received very well by Jump readers
 

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Is there something I'm missing with Mashle that others are? While it's not terrible, I found it lacking much in the way of jokes, with significant stretches which play themselves completely straight with zero irony, and the protagonist has very little personality (not even a low key one like Mob, he just barely speaks). The decidedly amateurish presentation doesn't help it either.
 

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And Samurai 8 sold 30k copies, which we all know was low for what it probably should have, but if Agravity Boys did anything near that with it's first volume that'd be huge.
Yeah, Samurai 8 initial numbers were bad because it's the Naruto creator. But a beginner? Absolutely good.
 
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Is there something I'm missing with Mashle that others are? While it's not terrible, I found it lacking much in the way of jokes, with significant stretches which play themselves completely straight with zero irony, and the protagonist has very little personality (not even a low key one like Mob, he just barely speaks). The decidedly amateurish presentation doesn't help it either.
Humor is subjective.
 
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