Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

qaulity over quantity, it is country level from nuclear fusion done. not hype when characters have done so. Irene is Multi-Continent level for compressing the entire country of Fiore, August would scale

 

[Fyron]

Honestly, Irene's probably not even stronger than any of the parent dragons. The parent dragons disabled hundreds of faces across the continent of Ishgal after it was activated. If Wendy's magic enchanted into Erza's sword was enough to take down Irene, Grandeneey alone can probably defeat Irene. Igneel is stronger than those 4 parent dragons, and Ignia should be on Igneel's level.




Because he's not working on his imagination. If he's heard about what Acnologia has done before, he could be basing his opinions based on that. Anyways, the whole point of Elfseria's line is to give context for what the 100YQ is about. Unless you believe Mashima is purposely being deceptive, then there's no reason to believe Elfseria's statement is inaccurate.

Yeah definitely I don't think Irene's stronger than any of the parent dragons either. But I also consider the parent dragons as high tier dragons.

Think of it this way. Igneel , Zeref and Anna chose specifically dragons as well as kids to raise as dragon slayers. Why would Igneel , the reputed dragon throughout the world , would choose some weakass dragons to raise the humans whom he himself had a part in choosing ? It makes sense he would choose his stronger acquiantances so that the probability of his plan succeeding increases.

 

[Ramen]

Yeah definitely I don't think Irene's stronger than any of the parent dragons either. But I also consider the parent dragons as high tier dragons.

Think of it this way. Igneel , Zeref and Anna chose specifically dragons as well as kids to raise as dragon slayers. Why would Igneel , the reputed dragon throughout the world , would choose some weakass dragons to raise the humans whom he himself had a part in choosing ? It makes sense he would choose his stronger acquiantances so that the probability of his plan succeeding increases.

Did Igneel have say in who raised who? I thought it was only Anna and Zeref

 

[Prince of the RL District]

I'm not wanking Mercphobia. I simply read the manga, and take it at face value. It's your word versus the manga's.

Bro, I gotta ask, are these the official translated scans? Where/how did u come across them? Is it free?
What is being said here so much different and better than the one we all have lol.

 

[Ramen]

Bro, I gotta ask, are these the official translated scans? Where/how did u come across them? Is it free?
What is being said here so much different and better than the one we all have lol.

Sorcerer weekly bro

 

[Axiomus]

Bro, I gotta ask, are these the official translated scans? Where/how did u come across them? Is it free?
What is being said here so much different and better than the one we all have lol.

Yes. Vol 1-3 are out in English. I do not believe they're online. Not for the 100YQ. I tend to just crop specific panels to avoid issues. If there's a passage you would like to see, I'll be happy to link it in a PM.

 

[Verter]

Because he's not working on his imagination. If he's heard about what Acnologia has done before, he could be basing his opinions based on that. Anyways, the whole point of Elfseria's line is to give context for what the 100YQ is about. Unless you believe Mashima is purposely being deceptive, then there's no reason to believe Elfseria's statement is inaccurate.

So, I reconfirm, that old dude never faced Acno, so never saw his real power.
All his statements only made with basis on rumours.

Ok. I don't have any more questions.

It's like a guy who suggest his own diagnosis:
a doctor ask him: "did you receive my or another doctor diagnosis?"
guy - "No"
a doctor: "do you have a diploma as medic?"
guy - "No"
doctor - "I don't have any more question,"

 

[Fyron]

Did Igneel have say in who raised who? I thought it was only Anna and Zeref

We don't know whether he personally did or not , it was just mentioned that 5 kids were chosen. But it was definitely his wish for the plan to succeed and most likely he was the orchestrator of the plan since he wanted to end Acno whereas Zeref and Anna had got no grudge against Acno. So Igneel would want that plan to succeed.

 

[Axiomus]

So, I reconfirm, that old dude never faced Acno, so never saw his real power.
All his statements only made with basis on rumours.

Ok. I don't have any more questions.

It's like a guy who suggest his own diagnosis:
a doctor ask him: "did you receive my or another doctor diagnosis?"
guy - "No"
a doctor: "do you have a diploma as medic?"
guy - "No"
doctor - "I don't have any more question,"

Whatever you say.

It's not like this is a work of fiction, where the author is trying to tell us information through his characters.

@Axiomus @Jean Grey @grey matter

Remember at the beginning when we saw the outline for the 5 DGS? Which one is Viernes since we know Aldoron, Ignia, Merc, and I'm assuming Selene is the one flying

Spoiler: 1

Viernes is the one to the right.

 

[Ratrace]

Yeah, it's featless. The energy it produced did not destroy a country. Like I said, Spriggans being country level is all hype. They don't actually have feats of destroying a country. The only Spriggans with country level feats are Irene and August, and it's no easy task for them.



He's been around for 100 years, and is the guild master of the first wizard guild. Even if he doesn't know Acnologia's real power when he goes all out, the fact that he's ballparking the god dragons on his level at all speaks volumes. Not that it matters, because my argument works under the assumption that Mercphobia is only 50% of Acnologia's power.

About being featless you can say that about a lot of Villains or have feats that we don't care about

 

[Axiomus]

About being featless you can say that about a lot of Villains or have feats that we don't care about

Wall's etherion is literally featless. Wall charged it up and then never fired it. I don't see how anyone can tell me with a straight face that it's not featless.

 

[WoWfan]

Wall’s feats are not featless you can tell how much energy those attacks he did were based on nuclear fusion

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Dragons have been confirmed by Hiro to be weaker than Spriggans

 

[grey matter]

Wall’s feats are not featless you can tell how much energy those attacks he did were based on nuclear fusion

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Dragons have been confirmed by Hiro to be weaker than Spriggans

Dragons < Spriggan is why Alverez Natsu required his strongest DF ever shown in the series to take down an average dragon LMAO, while Alverez Natsu one shotted Spriggans left and right like flies.

 

[WoWfan]

Huh? When did this happen?

 

[sharkai]

Full Team Natsu was literally going to die. That was the entire point of Ignia needing to show up



I'm using previous cases of POF as benchmarks. All that POF usages previously did was convert a match where MC would lose high or extreme diff TO an extreme diff win. Case in point:
- Natsu vs Gajeel : Gajeel was high/extreme diffing Natsu until Natsu got POF, and Natsu extreme diff'd Gajeel
- Natsu vs severely exhausted Laxus
- DF Natsu vs Zero : Zero was high diffing Natsu until POF made Natsu activate golden flames to burn through genesis zero
- Erza vs Azuma : Azuma went from high diffing Erza to losing to her extreme diff
- Erza vs Kyouka - Kyouka went from having high diff to losing extreme diff

I can go on, but you get the point. These usually tend to be a bit of a push from the norm, in order to overcome a reasonable difference in power level through unreasonable BS, but lets leave it for now :P . Unlike LFD, DF etc which are significant powerups, that turn tides from no/low diff to almost equal matchups (Natsu vs Jellal, Zero etc for DF; LFD Natsu matching/beating etherious transformation of Tempesta, Jackal while base tempesta was matching base Natsu, Jackal)



??

Eileen example is brought up to show that an August level character can one one shot by Erza with broken bones, once slayer advantage is applicable. That's how big of an equalizer slayer advantage is. For comparison, August tanked Gildarts' strongest attack, that he wasn't immune to, with nearly no damage - just a bloody lip. Even Gildarts was amped on friendship, we can we please ignore POF here and just see the difference in damage output?
You wouldn't argue against Gildart's damage being far above Erza's, right?

Gray was like 10 tiers below Mard, considering that DF Natsu amped on friendship did basically zero damage to him. While a clean attack from Gray floored Mard.

there is something wrong in this

i will reply to your entire post a little later
but i think pof part is little wrong
what i remember, when pof comes in, enemies starts to fall. example erza vs azuma. pof erza only did one hit, and azuma was out. i think it was same for ikagura. pof natsu i think started fighting on par with laxus and then beating him up. but i might be wrong. so i think we should follow your advise and not quantify pof

either how
i have one question for you
after that i will give a detail reply of this post
Eileen example is brought up to show that an August level character can one one shot by Erza with broken bones, once slayer advantage is applicable. That's how big of an equalizer slayer advantage is.
why? mishma wasnt planning on continuing fairy tail after that arc. and ds adavnatge never really played any role after that. so what was mishma point in showing this?

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First, @sharkai was right and @Axiomus was wrong

I'm not wanking Mercphobia. I simply read the manga, and take it at face value. It's your word versus the manga's.

Yeah, it's featless. The energy it produced did not destroy a country. Like I said, Spriggans being country level is all hype. They don't actually have feats of destroying a country. The only Spriggans with country level feats are Irene and August, and it's no easy task for them.



He's been around for 100 years, and is the guild master of the first wizard guild. Even if he doesn't know Acnologia's real power when he goes all out, the fact that he's ballparking the god dragons on his level at all speaks volumes. Not that it matters, because my argument works under the assumption that Mercphobia is only 50% of Acnologia's power.

@Axiomus
Told ya
you cant read what other people wishes to say as good as i can


I just wanted to add
yes, springgans being country level is a hype
kinda like
god dragons being on acno teir

 

[Axiomus]

Told ya
you cant read what other people wishes to say as good as i can


I just wanted to add
yes, springgans being country level is a hype
kinda like
god dragons being on acno teir

I'll be honest here: I can't read what Verter is saying at all. It's frankly not on me to decipher what the point he wishes to say. It's up to him to make his point clear. If you spend multiple posts spamming the line "Nebal > Dragon Eaters > Mercphobia", you can't complain when people argue against it.

Not that it matters anyways, because the point he is actually making isn't a good one either. Mercphobia has better feats than Animus, and he has better feats than Nebal. Saying that "Ignia oneshots Irene because the flames from one of his attacks made Natsu stronger than Mercphobia, who is stronger than Irene" is nothing like saying "Nebal is stronger than Mercphobia because Nebal beat up Wendy". He doesn't have an actual argument to argue why Ignia can't oneshot Irene, so he pretends that the logic I am using is similar to saying that Nebal is stronger than Mercphobia. It's not.

That's exactly what I said:

If you want to say the Spriggans are country level based on hype, then you might as well take Mercphobia's hype of being on Acnologia's level at face value. That would make him stronger than all the Spriggans, plus Zeref.

I will gladly accept the hype of Spriggans being on country level, if you'll accept the hype of Mercphobia being on Acnologia's level. What I won't do is pretend that the Spriggans can do everything that Mercphobia can "because they're country level", and downplay the obvious portrayal the God Dragons are getting in the 100YQ.

 

[Plutogrim]

How would you guys rank the 5 God Dragons?

My rank based on hype:

Ignia
Selena
Aldoron
Viernes
Mecrophobia

 

[Ratrace]

Wall's etherion is literally featless. Wall charged it up and then never fired it. I don't see how anyone can tell me with a straight face that it's not featless.

Okay that's nice

 

[WoWfan]

Okay that's nice

He always gets like this

 

[Ramen]

How would you guys rank the 5 God Dragons?

My rank based on hype:

Ignia
Selena
Aldoron
Viernes
Mecrophobia

Aldoron
Ignia
Selene
Viernes
Mercphobia