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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file
 
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I posted my responce in the series' topic since the manga has apparently been banned from this thread already.

 
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I answered your post in the series' topic since the manga has apparently been banned from this thread already.
Discussion of the manga isn't banned. Discussion of Teppei's plagiarism is (for the time being), since users are getting too upset over the subject, which is leading to an excess of deletions.
 

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Discussion of the manga isn't banned. Discussion of Teppei's plagiarism is (for the time being), since users are getting too upset over the subject, which is leading to an excess of deletions.
I thought most of the discussion was about whether the MC was likeable.

Mine was, at least. Guess I could've missed some posts that were deleted.
 

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I thought most of the discussion was about whether the MC was likeable.
Sure, but nearly all of that hinges on whether or not a person can overlook the plagiarism, right?

Unless people's issues with Teppei are unrelated, which I don't think is the case.
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Also, just so you guys are aware, I'll be removing this restriction once TPGW ranks officially on the ToC.

I believe by then everyone will have cooled off, and we'll have a better idea how Japan views the series.
 
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This list doesnt really prove anything when you got Agravity boys making the top 50 and KnY being only top 5 which doesn't make sense given its massive popularity. Prob a small sample size with troll votes idk.
No one surprised Dragon Ball Super is so far down the list?
Also, uhm, am I blind or where the fuck is Naruto/Boruto?
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JJK, WT and CSM are doing incredibly well. Super glad to see JJK and CSM do really well.
yes, this is abnormal..
same goes for Kaguya sama who should have ~100k
This is why I asked for the time period for this.

If you look at currently in the moment, I think the list makes more sense. Not the most sense, but I understand it better.

Kaguya-sama has an anime currently running, and it's currently the biggest anime of the season, so it's really popular for the time being.
Popularity votes tend to be biased towards things that are currently running, from my experience:
There's a lot of hype around World Trigger, Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, especially since their volumes just released.
This is also my opinion as to why Kimetsu's only 5th - even though it's the biggest manga in years, it's been over for a solid month.
I don't think Black Clover or Boruto have their anime running, so I don't think a lot of people are taking about it. Same with Super, though I think that one also has a volume out.

These are my guesses, though. The more I think about it, the more holes form. Such as Bleach and Hitman Reborn being on there but not Naruto. I guess Bleach has that final arc anime coming, but...dunno about Reborn.
 

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I don't know if this is the proper place, but as there are some Brazilian people here and I dind't find any translation to english, I have translated Heavy Metal Yankees to portuguese.

I'll now translate it to English, but be warned that, as English is not my native language, it will probably have some mistakes or strange phrases. In a couple days I can share it with you guys so everybody who understands English can read it, too.

Let me know if you want someone to proofread it before posting (though I imagine it'll be completely fine).

And thanks for the work. I was hoping the group that did HZ for a while would do it, but I guess not.
 

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The problem is, whether or not you can stand the main character isn't really a small detail. Sure, he can still redeem himself, but this is the kind of thing that can seriously hamper someone's enjoyment of the manga.



Light wasn't an incomprehensible lunatic. All of his thought processes were perfectly logical and easy to understand, even if you didn't agree with them.

And the conflicts in Death Note and TPGW are hardly similar. In DN, Light was facing off against L (a world famous detective) and holding his own. In TPGW, the MC is only facing himself, and failing miserably.
Actually he was an lunatic since the beginning he got the death note. Remember with the TV when he tried to kill L but there was a guy Pretending to be L and without much thinking, light just killed him and was like "hmm? Ok". That sign alone makes u someone with no morals, he was always in for a drive of challenge.. no matter if the person is innocent to achieve his goal as a god
 

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This is why I asked for the time period for this.

If you look at currently in the moment, I think the list makes more sense. Not the most sense, but I understand it better.

Kaguya-sama has an anime currently running, and it's currently the biggest anime of the season, so it's really popular for the time being.
Popularity votes tend to be biased towards things that are currently running, from my experience:
There's a lot of hype around World Trigger, Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, especially since their volumes just released.
This is also my opinion as to why Kimetsu's only 5th - even though it's the biggest manga in years, it's been over for a solid month.
I don't think Black Clover or Boruto have their anime running, so I don't think a lot of people are taking about it. Same with Super, though I think that one also has a volume out.

These are my guesses, though. The more I think about it, the more holes form. Such as Bleach and Hitman Reborn being on there but not Naruto. I guess Bleach has that final arc anime coming, but...dunno about Reborn.
Even if it was the most current it doesn't make much sense. Regardless of what time frame you use it, you can find many holes in it

-Jigokuraku is setting up its end game and also has its recent volume released, with the popularity still going strong so the positioning of that is off
-SxF's ranking is towards the bottom of the top 10 which doesn't make sense for obvious reasons
-15k sellers like Yozakura Family/Agravity boys are above established titles? And in the top 50? Undead being above OP/TPN too.
-Kimetsu is still getting backlog to this day so people are still getting caught up. With its backlog alone it should be #1 but I can somewhat understand if it was top 3 but top 5 is questionable to me

Im sure you get the idea, you can find more holes about it the more you think about it. Plus there could be ways to for the same series multiple times and we don't know if the voting system may have been flawed. I can understand some of the positioning especially for series like JJK/CSM and perhaps WT but a lot of them are off & make no sense.
 

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Don't pay too much attention to it, I mean, you can even submit more than 5+ votes to 1 series. We don't even know the # of voters. Now that is open to everyone, it can change.
 

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Actually he was an lunatic since the beginning he got the death note. Remember with the TV when he tried to kill L but there was a guy Pretending to be L and without much thinking, light just killed him and was like "hmm? Ok". That sign alone makes u someone with no morals, he was always in for a drive of challenge.. no matter if the person is innocent to achieve his goal as a god
I didn't say he had morals, I said his thought processes were logical and easy to understand. His actions were never a mystery, they were exactly what you would expect from someone who sees people as tools.

'Lunatic' makes me think of someone like The Joker, whose motivations are unclear and whose actions can't be explained by logic or common sense. Light was nothing like that; if anything, he was too calculating. If Death Note had been about the Joker, it would've been a wholly different series, because it would've been impossible to follow his train of thought like we did with Light. (I'm not saying either of them are better, they're just very different characters.)
 

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a question I would like to ask is which of the 4 newbies looks the most promising from what we know? I know there isn’t a lot of info but I still would like to know some opinions.
 

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a question I would like to ask is which of the 4 newbies looks the most promising from what we know? I know there isn’t a lot of info but I still would like to know some opinions.
Yabuki's new series definitely, and I have hope for the 2nd new one
 

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a question I would like to ask is which of the 4 newbies looks the most promising from what we know? I know there isn’t a lot of info but I still would like to know some opinions.
Do you mean the 4 new series this batch?

The series with the highest expectations is definitely Yabuki Kentaro's (the first one), since he's had multiple hit manga so has a good track record for success (his first series before Black Cat flopped but that was more than 20 years ago).

Otherwise it's hard to judge the others.

- the second series is by a newbie creator who's only done some oneshots I think (so not much expectations either way)
- the third series is by Tamura Ryuuhei who's had one hit and one flop (Beelzebub and Hungry Marie), but some people are excited because of Beelzebub of course so I'd say this is currently the #2 hyped
- and the fourth is by a creator who's only done some short gag things (so also not much expectations for success or failure)

But WSJ is known for being harsh even to veteran creators, so Yabuki's could also flop. Any of them could be a hit, any could be a failure, that's the fun of WSJ.
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Speaking of which, what's everyone's thoughts on the fourth series' preview image? Me and Roboko.

There's been plenty of talk about Tamura and Yabuki returning of course, and a little talk about Magu-chan due to the oneshot being posted, but I don't think I've seen anybody talk about Me and Roboko except for complaining there's too many new gag manga.

The art style seems really odd for current Jump to me, like something you'd see in Corocoro or Saikyou Jump rather than being suited for WSJ. Especially since 70% of WSJ's current readers are 16+. I suppose it could be a deliberately misleading art style like Tomatoypoo but I don't get that impression from the preview or the writer's previous stuff.

I'm actually pretty curious to read it in a few weeks to see what it's actually going to be like, since it's hard to imagine a very kiddy comedy surviving in modern jump without some kind of appeal to teens or adults.
 

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The robot maid is basically the same as how the author drew Isabella in the spinoff.

I'll be impressed if it escapes U19, but it'll at least give the author experience with a serialization.
 

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The robot maid is basically the same as how the author drew Isabella in the spinoff.

I'll be impressed if it escapes U19, but it'll at least give the author experience with a serialization.
The author also seems to have drawn that same goofy round face in the two mini-series I see listed on his manga updates page. Guy really likes drawing that for some reason.
 

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The author also seems to have drawn that same goofy round face in the two mini-series I see listed on his manga updates page. Guy really likes drawing that for some reason.
As for getting in the magazine, I imagine the Neverland connection helped. And their editor will be Sugita as well (was in charge of TPN for its whole run, and also has Time Paradox currently).

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Magu-chan will be under Monji (last launch was ne0;lation). Still don't know about the two vets (and Yozakura's is still unknown).
 

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Off topic question but what are the chances that slam dunk will return. I’ve binge read the series and it felt very incomplete and open ended. I think the series could definitely use a sequel.
 

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Off topic question but what are the chances that slam dunk will return. I’ve binge read the series and it felt very incomplete and open ended. I think the series could definitely use a sequel.
Maybe it will get an anime reboot at best given how iconic it is.

But a new manga, who knows. Captain Tsubasa managed to get many sequels and even Chinyuki of all things gotten a follow up.
 

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Any word on whether or not English Jump will being doing the new Yabuki series?
 

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Since Im bored what anime studios do you see doing (If they are getting an anime of course)

Act Age?
Jigokuraku?
SpyxFamily?
Chainsaw Man?
Undead Unluck?
MASHLE?
Yozakura Family?

Here's my list of options for each
Act Age: Kyoani(If they can), Production IG, A1 Pictures, JC Staff, Shaft
Jigokuraku: MAPPA, Cloverworks, LIDENFILMS?
SpyxFamily: A1, Shaft, Production IG, Ufotable?
Chainsaw Man: Pine Jam, David Production, Science Saru, MAPPA
Undead Unluck: MAPPA, Bones?, David Production
MASHLE: Madhouse(Homage to OPM), A1, Sunrise?, Bones?
Yozakura Family: A1, White Fox, Toei?
 
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