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Admiral?! LMAO. Admiral Level is like facing an Overlord (Yonkou), So Luffy is just Vice-Admiral level! So the biggest downfall for Luffy is going to be LAUGHTALE. Because as I saw every kind of Pirate Stories, like the Treasure Planet, there was a huge diappointment in the end of the story, yet it was having a great outcome!
So I really hope a dramatic turn towards Laughtale as the Booze of Binks song says:
It's a pretty big stretch that admirals are yonko level when we saw them pretty much get rag dolled by whitebeard at marineford... even though WB was old and past his prime along with having accumulated injuries through the battle. Add to that, the admirals were held back by at least marco and jozu... There is a case to be made that admirals are stronger than top 3 yonko commanders but none of them is actually a match to the yonko as we have seen them so far.
 

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The only time skip that will happen will probably be for the epilogue of the series.
 

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The only time skip that will happen will probably be for the epilogue of the series.
One Piece is too much of a cash cow they won't do that, they can't do a time skip that would compromise merchandising, marketing and toys
 

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One Piece is too much of a cash cow they won't do that, they can't do a time skip that would compromise merchandising, marketing and toys
How would it compromise any of that, though? Naruto and Bleach got the same "around 10-year timeskip epilogue" and it worked fine.
 

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How would it compromise any of that, though? Naruto and Bleach got the same "around 10-year timeskip epilogue" and it worked fine.
A 10 year time skip would require the crew to get a whole new redesign, and doing something like that at story end guarantees that you are throwing money away from your merchandising and toys, you cant make new products and toys if the "advertising"(story) has ended, there would be no media out there pushing the stuff off the shelves.

Naruto merch did poorly and they tried to make Baruto to push the stuff but failed(except in JPN), dont even get me started on bleach they failed miserably the only thing Bleach had going for it is a game, and people have started watching Bleach globally more since end of 2018 that's why they are trying to cash in more with a new anime so they can use it to push more toys, merch and games.

Manga sales on average amount to 30% of total income with games, merch and toys making up 50% while movies and anime make up the rest, you cant sacrifice toys just so you can make your characters all grown up, it the same as burning money.
Look at Dragon Ball, they will never make Goten and Trunk grow up for as long as possible because they wont be able to get that toy money, i mean in the story they should be 15/16 but they still look 8 because of toys need to go.
 

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A 10 year time skip would require the crew to get a whole new redesign, and doing something like that at story end guarantees that you are throwing money away from your merchandising and toys, you cant make new products and toys if the "advertising"(story) has ended, there would be no media out there pushing the stuff off the shelves.
How so? The manga is going to end sooner or later. So merchandising will be affected by "lack of advertising(story)" whether there's a timeskip in the end or not.
They'd obviously get new designs as adults if there's a timeskip in the end. But so what? Are you saying they can't make merchandising of how the characters based on their final arc design just because they looked different in a single last chapter?

Naruto merch did poorly and they tried to make Baruto to push the stuff but failed(except in JPN), dont even get me started on bleach they failed miserably the only thing Bleach had going for it is a game, and people have started watching Bleach globally more since end of 2018 that's why they are trying to cash in more with a new anime so they can use it to push more toys, merch and games.
Boruto was planned and announced immediately when Naruto ended, it wasn't really an answer to merchandising droping.
Bleach did poorly way before the epilogue timeskip, which is why they didn't animate the last arc, yet there was still lots of merchandising and very popular Bleach mobile games coming out one after the other, so merchandising certainly did not get affected by its epilogue. There were also multiple continuation novels.

Now they will animate the last arc and of course there'll be merchandising of it, it's a business after all, everything is, but there is already popular merchandising of that arc.

Manga sales on average amount to 30% of total income with games, merch and toys making up 50% while movies and anime make up the rest, you cant sacrifice toys just so you can make your characters all grown up, it the same as burning money.
Look at Dragon Ball, they will never make Goten and Trunk grow up for as long as possible because they wont be able to get that toy money, i mean in the story they should be 15/16 but they still look 8 because of toys need to go.
You're making an example of Dragon Ball about kids never growing up so as to not affect merchandising? Have you taken a look at how Goku started the story and how he's now? And Gohan? DB merchandising of Teen Gohan is still popular, yet he's been an adult for decades.

Merchandising is important, you're 100% right on that, but timeskip epilogues don't negatively affect merchandising (as long as the ending is good. A bad ending could affect merchandising, but that's a different issue). On the contrary, people will be like "Ah, I have a figurine of Post-Timeskip Zoro, but damn, I want a figure of 30yo Zoro as well!". Hell, there's even toys of Kid Supernova and they never really even appeared as kids on the manga.
 

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How so? The manga is going to end sooner or later. So merchandising will be affected by "lack of advertising(story)" whether there's a timeskip in the end or not.
They'd obviously get new designs as adults if there's a timeskip in the end. But so what? Are you saying they can't make merchandising of how the characters based on their final arc design just because they looked different in a single last chapter?
Movies will still push sales, since characters will be the same it wont impact sales much.
If they get redesigned as adults, there wont be enough screen time for them for the masses to get used to them, so toys cant be pushed like that.


Boruto was planned and announced immediately when Naruto ended, it wasn't really an answer to merchandising droping.
Bleach did poorly way before the epilogue timeskip, which is why they didn't animate the last arc, yet there was still lots of merchandising and very popular Bleach mobile games coming out one after the other, so merchandising certainly did not get affected by its epilogue. There were also multiple continuation novels.
I don't remember that, i remember being a delay of a few months after the end of bleach and the new movie being anoused as build up for an upcoming Boruto story, but maybe your right i cant remember.
(Bleach)I account for the fact that after their new redesigned as parents, there were no merch of that that sold, even the games is of them as teens not as adults like manga end.

Now they will animate the last arc and of course there'll be merchandising of it, it's a business after all, everything is, but there is already popular merchandising of that arc.
The only reason the last arc is being animated is the boom in Bleach's popularity around the world this last 15/18 months, around the world blu rays and streaming services are generating money so ofcause they will make more so they can get more money.

Anyway my point is they cant do a major time skip if there wont be enough story time for the masses to get used to their heros growing, it wouldn't make sense since merch and toys based on the new redesign wont sell, like with the Naruto stuff that didnt sell cause people dont like old Naruto and Sasuke
There is more chance of Luffy having gear 10 than there being 10 year time skip.


You're making an example of Dragon Ball about kids never growing up so as to not affect merchandising? Have you taken a look at how Goku started the story and how he's now? And Gohan? DB merchandising of Teen Gohan is still popular, yet he's been an adult for decades.

Merchandising is important, you're 100% right on that, but timeskip epilogues don't negatively affect merchandising (as long as the ending is good. A bad ending could affect merchandising, but that's a different issue). On the contrary, people will be like "Ah, I have a figurine of Post-Timeskip Zoro, but damn, I want a figure of 30yo Zoro as well!". Hell, there's even toys of Kid Supernova and they never really even appeared as kids on the manga.
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Merchandising is important, you're 100% right on that, but timeskip epilogues don't negatively affect merchandising (as long as the ending is good. A bad ending could affect merchandising, but that's a different issue). On the contrary, people will be like "Ah, I have a figurine of Post-Timeskip Zoro, but damn, I want a figure of 30yo Zoro as well!". Hell, there's even toys of Kid Supernova and they never really even appeared as kids on the manga.

There wouldn't be a mess up the merchandising, if they put a timeskip between the penultimate and the final arc. So we can see a lot of the adult straw hats in action!
 

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One Piece is too much of a cash cow they won't do that, they can't do a time skip that would compromise merchandising, marketing and toys
There is no way they would pass up the chance to make new merchandise for end of the story Strawhats. Just think of how much they could get from Robin and Nami alone.
 

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Someone had posted years ago in this forum, about how Blackbeard would become the Pirate King, IIRC. i think during that discussion, another time skip was predicted and i dont see it out of the realm of possibility...

We could have a scenario where the strawhats have to disband and unite again, a 10 year time skip will allow the likes of Momo to become a legitimate part of the rest of the arcs as well.... lets see...
 

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Oh that subject, I wonder how Zoans impact reproducing. And now I wish I hadn't just wondered that.
I'm surprised nobody thought of that before.


The Celestials Dragons fear the clan of D because they are the true celestial dragons.

Joy Boy was a dragon who fell in love with a Human called Im. Joy Boy ate the Hito Hito no Mi so he could be with Im. Their children are the clan of D. They are just "D" because they don't know if their parent is a dragon or the Devil.

Their societies didn't accepted this, which culminated in a war 800 years ago.


Kaido is a descendant of Joy Boy, and he ate a Hito Hito no Mi fruit too.


The Devil Fruits are Noah's Arc. They were created to preserve the DNA of all species.

The Devil Fruit's replicating ability can be extended to elements of nature or objects (Logia and Paramecia), but their real purpose is to duplicate living organisms (Zoan). This is why so far all Artificial Devil Fruits have been Zoans.
 

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Someone had posted years ago in this forum, about how Blackbeard would become the Pirate King, IIRC. i think during that discussion, another time skip was predicted and i dont see it out of the realm of possibility...

We could have a scenario where the strawhats have to disband and unite again, a 10 year time skip will allow the likes of Momo to become a legitimate part of the rest of the arcs as well.... lets see...
I think it's going to be a flashback during the final arc, where the Strawhats were living their own lives. And what happened to them. So that 10-year-timeskip might be a huge skip and it is going to return as a huge flashback like Oden's flashback!
 

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I'm surprised nobody thought of that before.


The Celestials Dragons fear the clan of D because they are the true celestial dragons.

Joy Boy was a dragon who fell in love with a Human called Im. Joy Boy ate the Hito Hito no Mi so he could be with Im. Their children are the clan of D. They are just "D" because they don't know if their parent is a dragon or the Devil.

Their societies didn't accepted this, which culminated in a war 800 years ago.


Kaido is a descendant of Joy Boy, and he ate a Hito Hito no Mi fruit too.


The Devil Fruits are Noah's Arc. They were created to preserve the DNA of all species.

The Devil Fruit's replicating ability can be extended to elements of nature or objects (Logia and Paramecia), but their real purpose is to duplicate living organisms (Zoan). This is why so far all Artificial Devil Fruits have been Zoans.
Not exactly true, because the Devil Fruits were grown on a special tree which is called TREE METHUSELAH! That tree is connected with all the waters of the world. As I already told that in my Void Century Theory.

And the D. Clan is based on Jesus and the 12 disciples. And the will of D. means the will of God in which reveals in the Book of Revelations of the meaning of Carrying someone's will. (=CAIN AND ABEL)
D. =DEUS/DON/DOMINUS = GOD/LORD/MASTER

The Void Century is also based on the Crusade Wars which was been enraging over 6 centuries during the history! Where the main purpose was the freeing of the Holyland, Jerusalem.
 

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Anyone think Jimbei is doing an Pedro on buying his time on where he would like to past since I think Jimbei did suffer an lost in how he got away as he had to exchange lives to be able to do so. I know early in arc it didn't work on him, but think Oda could be saving something on that twist as he was force to give them up than by his own will given how numbers were against him and everyone. Would be interesting twist to see, but have to see when Big Mom or BMP see him again on their reaction. Though it would be plot twist for later arc maybe than right now.

What you all think?
 

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Admiral?! LMAO. Admiral Level is like facing an Overlord (Yonkou), So Luffy is just Vice-Admiral level! So the biggest downfall for Luffy is going to be LAUGHTALE. Because as I saw every kind of Pirate Stories, like the Treasure Planet, there was a huge diappointment in the end of the story, yet it was having a great outcome!
So I really hope a dramatic turn towards Laughtale as the Booze of Binks song says:
It's been a while peoples.

This thread and the arguments and evidence used to support the subject matter at hand is... bizarre. We can interpret anything in an infinite amount of ways but sometimes, the way the way one interprets something will make you seem like a lunatic. And this is one of those times.

Luffy's growth rate is OP AF. Do we know of any other character in the whole series powerup so fast? Maybe Big Mom when she was a kid? But I can think of no one else which means Luffy will not need 10 years of training to defeat his opponents. There is also the factor where he has his own grand fleet with some capable fighters to help him out as well as all the people who respects him like...Marco...or cryhoshi. Did we all already forget that she is basically Poseidon's reincarnate? The list goes on and on. It is starting to seem like Luffy is inadvertently following in Dragon's footstep what with him and his crew personally liberating so many places and islands.

Also, while your predictions might come true I want to also remind us that Roger and his crew LAUGHED THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES off when they found Joy Boy's stash. You think the Strawhats are gonna cry when they arrive? Yeah maybe the weaktrio when they fight whatever antagonist is there but in the end they have the Main Character plot armor defense system on so it will likely end well for the Strawhats...relatively speaking.
 

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I'm surprised nobody thought of that before.


The Celestials Dragons fear the clan of D because they are the true celestial dragons.

Joy Boy was a dragon who fell in love with a Human called Im. Joy Boy ate the Hito Hito no Mi so he could be with Im. Their children are the clan of D. They are just "D" because they don't know if their parent is a dragon or the Devil.

Their societies didn't accepted this, which culminated in a war 800 years ago.


Kaido is a descendant of Joy Boy, and he ate a Hito Hito no Mi fruit too.


The Devil Fruits are Noah's Arc. They were created to preserve the DNA of all species.

The Devil Fruit's replicating ability can be extended to elements of nature or objects (Logia and Paramecia), but their real purpose is to duplicate living organisms (Zoan). This is why so far all Artificial Devil Fruits have been Zoans.
Not bad. But the Celestial Dragon is not meant as a literal Dragon. The Celestial Dragon is the Milky Way, that's pretty obvious to everyone familiar with symbols, and the Milky Way theme extends to the Grand Line and the Empty Throne.

Now if the D is based around Dingir, then it represents the Milky Way, too.

Doflamingo and Rosinante are CDs, yet they behaved like Ds.
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Not exactly true, because the Devil Fruits were grown on a special tree which is called TREE METHUSELAH! That tree is connected with all the waters of the world. As I already told that in my Void Century Theory.

And the D. Clan is based on Jesus and the 12 disciples. And the will of D. means the will of God in which reveals in the Book of Revelations of the meaning of Carrying someone's will. (=CAIN AND ABEL)
D. =DEUS/DON/DOMINUS = GOD/LORD/MASTER

The Void Century is also based on the Crusade Wars which was been enraging over 6 centuries during the history! Where the main purpose was the freeing of the Holyland, Jerusalem.
This is terrible. One Piece is not a Christian story. Quite the opposite. It is inherently pagan.

Because the tanach evolved from pagan henotheism, pagan symbols and motives reappear, but get twisted around. Prudery and shame instead of holy whores and all that stuff.

One Piece is undoing that twist. There are many genders, not just two.

Your replies around your theories in the past implied you don't actually know anything. Like the things you are talking about are indeed somehow in One Piece, but NOT like that. Last time, you couldn't explain at all why you got your ideas. Which is why, to be honest, I think they are stolen.

Your "Grand Theory" read like an X-post from Oro Jackson. If it were your theory, you could have explained why you think that way. But you didn't even realize that your list of "20 Crusader Kings" is bollocks, and didn't even notice you got the same figure twice in your list of.. just 14?

Also in which universe did the Crusades last 6 centuries?
 
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Not bad. But the Celestial Dragon is not meant as a literal Dragon. The Celestial Dragon is the Milky Way, that's pretty obvious to everyone familiar with symbols, and the Milky Way theme extends to the Grand Line and the Empty Throne.

Now if the D is based around Dingir, then it represents the Milky Way, too.

Doflamingo and Rosinante are CDs, yet they behaved like Ds.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---



This is terrible. One Piece is not a Christian story. Quite the opposite. It is inherently pagan.

Because the tanach evolved from pagan henotheism, pagan symbols and motives reappear, but get twisted around. Prudery and shame instead of holy whores and all that stuff.

One Piece is undoing that twist. There are many genders, not just two.

Your replies around your theories in the past implied you don't actually know anything. Like the things you are talking about are indeed somehow in One Piece, but NOT like that. Last time, you couldn't explain at all why you got your ideas. Which is why, to be honest, I think they are stolen.

Your "Grand Theory" read like an X-post from Oro Jackson. If it were your theory, you could have explained why you think that way. But you didn't even realize that your list of "20 Crusader Kings" is bollocks, and didn't even notice you got the same figure twice in your list of.. just 14?

Also in which universe did the Crusades last 6 centuries?
One Piece is a moral story, which stands a curved mirror to the society. And yes! There are historic events that made Oda ispired by. Like the crusade wars from the real history!
 
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I think he means Im/Imu but I'm wondering what the crazy theory is here...
Okay I solve it.

If you combine Hadad (symbol: Bull) and Buddha (symbol: Golden Statue), you get th Golden Calf. A false God and a story of betrayal between siblings.

The story of the Golden Calf is Exodus.

But where is the link to One Piece? It is in the name Nefertari.

The name means something like Pretty or so.. But when asked in an SBS, Oda replied he had no idea about its meaning.

However, Nefertari is an actual Egyptian name of many pharaonic consorts. They are all footnotes though, but in one case, the husband is not: Ramses the Great.

Now the chance of accidently inventing a real name is pretty low, so Oda likely picked this up from somewhere, and most likely from a text about Ramses the Great. And Ramses the Great is believed to be source behind the fictive Pharaoh in Exodus (the entire story is fictive).

@Bufford this is how you do theories. You check what references in the Manga are there and what implications they have for the plot.

Might be that the Methusaleh tree is indeed also referenced, but right now we have two trees, Adam and Eve, and the story these names point at is Genesis, which also features two trees, the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life.

Well whatever, on to something else

A while ago, I posted about the Imu-bakko, which are Ainu women struck by a mental illness that causes them to impersonate someone else. And it is caused by the sight of a serpent or Snake.

Sound a lot like Yamato right?

Now the great serpent in Wano Arc is Kaido, but the great serpent overall is the Red Line.

Yamato's holy treasure is Oden's journal. Im's holy treasure is the Strawhat.

The real dIM, son of Dagon, is Luffy, the son of Dragon, violent and gluttonous, with the Bull and the Thundercloud (Corrida Colliseum)

Or in other words, as I alluded previously, Im is a fake.

And now to you Fox666 your idea about the two being lovers isn't farfetched.

What I have still to include in my theory is the motive of Dawn, and I think I have found the story that fits it.

It is about Inanna and Dumuzi.

Inanna is not a Storm God, but has the attributes of one. Basically if you combine Storm God with Sex and Thievery you get Inanna, Goddes of Love and War, Queen of the Heavens and Patron of Whores. Or Nami, who has Luffy's symbols (Storm God, Monkey King). Notice how Inanna can drink all men under the table, like Nami in Whiskey Peak.

And, in war times, the obviously female Inanna is sometimes portrayed with a beard, impersonating a man.

Now back to Inanna and Dumuzi. They were lovers, but somehow Dumuzi dies. In some variants, he is killed by someone else, but in one famous version, Innana kills him after she returned to live herself, and Dumuzi fails to mourn her death and instead sits on her throne or beneath a tree, lavishly clothed and entertained by slave girls (which is the same as Innanas throne is the Huluppu tree that she stole). Dumuzi then gets striped naked and dragged to the Underworld.

Ever wondered where the Eve Tree is? It wasn't shown during Levely Arc, despite the fact that it has to be the most massive structure in the entire One Piece World. I think the Empty Throne is the Tree.

Inanna later regrets her decision and strikes a deal with the Underworld, allowing Dumuzi to return each Summer, thus bringing a new dawn to this world.

Notice that Dumuzi also has the Bull motive and Inanna is often named as a sister of Adad/Iskur (dIM)

It has gotten late and I still need to sort my thoughts but basically I think Oda has been spilling Meta-Secrets again this past couple of chapters.
 
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You do. You sell off the Crusades and any crusade as the same thing, as if they form a continuous chain of related events for 600 years. But other conflicts called a crusade had nothing to do with those reclaiming the Holy Land.
Ok, I have overracted a bit, but the fact is, the crusades were raging over 5-6 centuries the most. And yes, there's a lot of conspiracies in One Piece.

And reclaiming the Holyland has to do a lot with One Piece because it's getting mixed up with the events of the bible. Like the youngest brother in One Piece has seen a burning bush in his dream and he listened the cry of Laughtale's people. then he woke up quick and he had to go with his followers throught the arc NOAH ship, which was been lying thousands of meters deep in the sea.

So it mixes up with the story of Moses, Cain, Abel & Seth and so and so forth. And this is what the Void Century is going to be about.
 
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Zoro is already close to Mihawk and Shanks in strength.
His future development wont make him significantly stronger than he already is.
 
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