Games Mafia Game 84 - MH Hydra - END GAME

[Copy Panda]

A long time ago on Hydra Vote Z

Spoiler: Flashback

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A relatively shorter while ago on Hydra Vote Z

Spoiler: [Before the presentation] Day 2 Belsaph arc got cut short by the Vankaku

One VanPlan in the backyard later

Spoiler: [Slide 1] - Night 2 The JoJo franchise collapses

Spoiler: [Slide 2] Day 3 Blackuchi bites the dust

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To be continued...

 

[Purity of Magi]

A bit of a flashback of this game

....

Basically Takuans Lynch being discussed in a nutshell

Spoiler

Confirmed townie basically yet still pointed as suspicious

Spoiler

How to throw a game

Spoiler

Deadpad talk:

How the game basically ended:

How to use logic and gain trust in Raven style

Spoiler

What have we learned?

Nothing.



Mafia game basically

Spoiler

 

[Farfalla]

Ah ok, we were actually tidy so it was easy to make the final updates. Here are the lists:

Spoiler: Roles

Santa Gifts (Permanent Role Changes):

• Mason
• Mason
• Doctor (Sane if Town)
• Spy (Sane)
• Spirit Medium

Spoiler: Actions

And yes mafia was pink just cause pink = pretty red

 

[Farfalla]

what have been deleted? who is deleting posts evidence?

It's been restored, leave it like that.

 

[Takuan]

The thing is taku there a lot of ways to play jesus expect revealing as your role becomes useless
I'm saying claiming main role is the easier way to bait mafia to kill you, but you could done literally anything expect role reveal
Plus as I said BP and jesus too much

And i disagree with that. To each his own, but i don't see Jesus that way, that's all.

Why would i bait mafia to kill me.
We had a bulletproof to absorb a mafia kill.
We had a bodyguard to shield someone from a mafia kill.
We have docs to prevent mafia kills.
We have prostitutes to prevent mafia kills. (not saying we have one or several prostitute this game, i'm just saying in general).

I don't see Jesus as a way to absorb a Mafia kill, there are more and better roles for that. I see it as a way to absorb a DAY LYNCH. That's what i've been saying.
I've been saying that whenever town has a doubt about who to lynch, and BT and me are amongst the top suspects, then it wouldn't be a bad thing to lynch us; better to lynch a player that will come back cleared of suspicion - no loss - than a potential det or spy.

We can agree to disagree, however i also disagree abut the fact that the role now became useless because of the reveal.
We claimed passive and we're far from being the most aggressive, active, dangerous for mafia. So why would they kill us?
Should we have claimed active? Then what if our docs protect us, our bodyguard protect us, but the Mafia actually decide we're not dangerous and go for someone else who claimed active?
The longer we wait in the game, the more probable it becomes that spies and dets come out with results, so waiting and not revealing our role would be useless, because by now mafia will have better targets anyway.
What's done is done, we decided to reveal - not like you guys didn't press for it anyway - and now we're up for lynching. We will not get rid of a mafia today, unless you guys (you guys, because i don't plan on participating much further) find something better - which is why i ALSO said we should focus on the search of mafia and not on our case, and for people to claim, what's your role again Asako ?

Anyway, before I get accused of not addressing "issues"

@Takuan @BlackTiger
Why would only one of you return?

Who said that? We'll both return.

STOP DELETING POSTS

Sorry about that. My post was incomplete, that's why i deleted. Sorry.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Reveal role.

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oh farfalla hosting

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whats your role?

@Purity of Magi

 

[digitaldude]

@Gryffindor @Juviii this is going in circles and I feel like Im waisting my time pointing out your case while no one else seems to care. Lets see it this way then: You are scum in my eyes right now, prove me wrong. Reveal your role if you can, lynch a mafia, whatever.

What are your opinion on Blackuchi for starters, do you believe them?

Its amazing how townies are giving cover to the mafia right now.

 

[Lambu]

I mean, people dont seem to understand we might aswell be surrounded by scum right now. There's 11 players, 2 of them townies which leaves 9 suspects. If there's a Mentor there might aswell be 4 scum among them, 5 if hosts opted for a Substitute Teacher test.

And i disagree with that. To each his own, but i don't see Jesus that way, that's all.

Why would i bait mafia to kill me.
We had a bulletproof to absorb a mafia kill.
We had a bodyguard to shield someone from a mafia kill.
We have docs to prevent mafia kills.
We have prostitutes to prevent mafia kills. (not saying we have one or several prostitute this game, i'm just saying in general).

I don't see Jesus as a way to absorb a Mafia kill, there are more and better roles for that. I see it as a way to absorb a DAY LYNCH. That's what i've been saying.
I've been saying that whenever town has a doubt about who to lynch, and BT and me are amongst the top suspects, then it wouldn't be a bad thing to lynch us; better to lynch a player that will come back cleared of suspicion - no loss - than a potential det or spy.

We can agree to disagree, however i also disagree abut the fact that the role now became useless because of the reveal.
We claimed passive and we're far from being the most aggressive, active, dangerous for mafia. So why would they kill us?
Should we have claimed active? Then what if our docs protect us, our bodyguard protect us, but the Mafia actually decide we're not dangerous and go for someone else who claimed active?
The longer we wait in the game, the more probable it becomes that spies and dets come out with results, so waiting and not revealing our role would be useless, because by now mafia will have better targets anyway.

The whole point of Jesus is making mafia waste a nightkill. Sure its a safeline if he gets lynched (thats why the role is op) but once the mafia knows you are "Jesus" the role loses its purpose.

So no, thats not how the role is played. I could buy this from BT, not from you Tak.

 

[Gajeel]

The whole point of Jesus is making mafia waste a nightkill. Sure its a safeline if he gets lynched (thats why the role is op) but once the mafia knows you are "Jesus" the role loses its purpose.

We have a mason recruiter since we had a super mason no? How about we let the MR recruit Blackuchi tonight instead of wasting a lynch on him Lambu? Considering it's D3, there must be 2 other masons in that group that could come out and tell us if the recruit worked or not. It's up to the MR to decide whether it's a good call or not though.

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As you said, it's not like Jesus has any meaning anymore. Same goes for Vengeful Townie.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Well, with Raven claiming plain townie, i'm willing to vote against Haven today.
She's either lieing and we kill a mafia, or she's telling the truth and we lost either a roleless townie or get rid of a potential traitor/miller or whatever. It seems to be our best option right now imo.

We using the same logic on you that you used on other people. On one hand mafia, on other hand, not bad role to lynch.

Although at the moment there are some other people we also need to focus on. The lack of deaths on N1 points to potentially recruitment or blocker/doctors at work. Vanilla could be sleeper. I just wonder if anyone would aim for Holt and Raven on N1.

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We have a mason recruiter since we had a super mason no? How about we let the MR recruit Blackuchi tonight instead of wasting a lynch on him Lambu? Considering it's D3, there must be 2 masons in that group that could come out and tell us if the recruit worked or not. It's up to the MR to decide whether it's a good call or not though.

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As you said, it's not like Jesus has any meaning anymore. Same goes for Vengeful Townie.

Has the MR recruited Holt and Raven yet? That’s a good target for masons, a vanilla town. Saves town from a bad role and confirms they haven’t been recruited by others.

 

[Vandred]

What the heck happened while I was gone

Another anonymous vote?
BenoNacho suggesting there's a Santa?
Blackuchi claiming Jesus?
Lambu bullying Gruviii?
Cres thinking I'd get the hint?
DD pressuring Farfs?
Psycho Mantis...?

 

[Lambu]

Yeah, this day's been wild so far

 

[Purity of Magi]

@Purity of Magi

Shadi Mubarak? Shadi Mubarak.

 

[Takuan]

The whole point of Jesus is making mafia waste a nightkill. Sure its a safeline if he gets lynched (thats why the role is op) but once the mafia knows you are "Jesus" the role loses its purpose.

So no, thats not how the role is played. I could buy this from BT, not from you Tak.

Oh? Please do me a favor. Please show me any post of mine where i pretend to be good at the game.
I bet you can't, because i know i'm not good at the game. Don't give me that "i could buy this from him but not from you" shit.
Me making a mistake IN YOUR EYES (becasue in my eyes it's not a mistake) does not mean i'm being dishonest.

The whole point of Jesus is making mafia waste a nightkill?
Weird... I must have misread. I thought the role said

"Whenever he dies, he comes back to life 2 day phases after his death."


But apparently it says

"When this person is attacked at night Jesus becomes the target instead. "

...Wait no, that's the Bodyguard, a role designed to protect from night kills. My bad.

Jesus actually says this :

"Jesus has a permanent protection from Night Kills. Any attempts to kill him at Night will fail."

Does it? No it's the Bulletproof... A role designed to absorb a nightkill.


I guess Jesus can absorb either a night kill or a lynch then...

Today's lynch on us will make us lose 0 townie, and we'll get a confirmed one. Better than losing randomly some strong role.

That was my last post of the phase; see you when we come back to life.
And please for the love of God (heh), get some mafia instead of focusing on our case WHEN WE ARE ALREADY WILLING TO DIE.

 

[Gajeel]

Has the MR recruited Holt and Raven yet? That’s a good target for masons, a vanilla town. Saves town from a bad role and confirms they haven’t been recruited by others.

did I ever say I was a mason

 

[Lambu]

did I ever say I was a mason

 

[Vandred]

And i disagree with that. To each his own, but i don't see Jesus that way, that's all.

I don't see Jesus as a way to absorb a Mafia kill, there are more and better roles for that. I see it as a way to absorb a DAY LYNCH. That's what i've been saying.
I've been saying that whenever town has a doubt about who to lynch, and BT and me are amongst the top suspects, then it wouldn't be a bad thing to lynch us; better to lynch a player that will come back cleared of suspicion - no loss - than a potential det or spy.

So let me get this straight, you're basing your case on the fact that Jesus would not only be overkill as night protection when we already had Bulletproof, Bodyguard and a Doc, but it's also intended to be "day lynch protection" (which should be the town's greatest asset against mafia) when we have Prosecutor and Noble?

And on top of that, you deliberately decided to screw all that and come out on D3, D2 almost, thus reducing your huge potential usefulness to zero?

We can agree to disagree, however i also disagree abut the fact that the role now became useless because of the reveal.
We claimed passive and we're far from being the most aggressive, active, dangerous for mafia. So why would they kill us?
Should we have claimed active? Then what if our docs protect us, our bodyguard protect us, but the Mafia actually decide we're not dangerous and go for someone else who claimed active?
The longer we wait in the game, the more probable it becomes that spies and dets come out with results, so waiting and not revealing our role would be useless, because by now mafia will have better targets anyway.
What's done is done, we decided to reveal - not like you guys didn't press for it anyway - and now we're up for lynching. We will not get rid of a mafia today, unless you guys (you guys, because i don't plan on participating much further) find something better - which is why i ALSO said we should focus on the search of mafia and not on our case, and for people to claim, what's your role again Asako ?

You're outright stating that the role is not useless anymore because now the mafia won't try to kill you?

Why would i bait mafia to kill me.
We had a bulletproof to absorb a mafia kill.
We had a bodyguard to shield someone from a mafia kill.
We have docs to prevent mafia kills.

Because all those are dead by D3, maybe? We don't have any protection left and you decide now is the perfect time to reveal Jesus?

Taku?

 

[Crescent Jinx]

did I ever say I was a mason

It’s kind of funny that you took a rhetorical question that way. So I wasn’t thinking that then but this reply makes me think it now.

 

[Lambu]

Masons, introduce yourselves! Clearing people in this situation would make wonders.

 

[digitaldude]

what if mafia pirate steals jesus, mafia jesus.

 

[Gajeel]

what if mafia pirate steals jesus, mafia jesus.

They died yesterday dd. There is no mafia pirate in the game anymore.

 

[digitaldude]

They died yesterday dd. There is no mafia pirate in the game anymore.

sure but in a days time....boom reborn.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

@Vandred you fail