Canon Laxus vs Mystogan

Who wins?

  • Laxus

    Votes: 21 72.4%
  • Mystogan

    Votes: 8 27.6%

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It isn't bcs he never uses three hundred lacrimas in the middle of a fight. The fact that you think he can do this at any time is hilarious since it requires three hundred lacrima to do so.

He literally came into Magnolia with a massive prep of Runes lol. Then had multiple plans when one failed. Captured girls -> Thunder Palace -> Fairy Law as the last resort. He had already plan this entire event. You think he was coming up with this stuff on the fly?

Never does it in the middle of a fight. Already had set up a plan before even stepping into magnolia. Needs three hundred lacrima to enact Thunder Palace. None of that sounds like a spell he can use mid combat.

None of that says it's his lightning magic lol. Like I said he barely pulled off Fairy Law yet he is going to supply magic into 300 lacrimas to hit everyone with an attack as strong as their own on top of that...lol. Do you think Laxus can fight the Erza and the entire guild or something???

He was never stated to fill those lacrima with his own magic. So burden of proof that he did is on you. Said lacrima were stated to already be overloaded with lightning magic so they are not being constantly supplied with magic. It is why he wasn't taxed when enacting the spell. Freed also said Laxus was "gathering his magic" so how can he gather magic if he was taxing his own with Thunder Palace. Also what does this have to do with Mystogan's sleep spell? Lol. Again, you are bringing up a spell that required prep to use as it needed three hundred lacrima and was set up before the battle even started.

Yeah, he was totally going to fight Makarov when he caged him the entire fight...he knew Makarov was going to beat his ass. Laxus, the arrogant grandson, calling someone weak is supposed to mean something? This dude thought Ever could actually take Erza 😂. I say Maka can beat his ass bcs Maka has feats to say such lol.
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Erza vs Laxus and Mystogan vs Laxus were both skirmishes in which neither side left with a scratch mark. And we know at least for Erza (probs for Myst too) that both side weren't using their upper tier magic lol. Don't see how you can gauge how a battle will play out from those battles.
Mystogan and Laxus fought for a chapter. What exactly can Mystogan pull against Laxus that would have matched Laxus revealing his DS?
 

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Mystogan and Laxus fought for a chapter. What exactly can Mystogan pull against Laxus that would have matched Laxus revealing his DS?
Their fight only was like two-three spells spells each tho lol. Neither came out with any noticeable damage and then the fight was over. We unfortunately never got to see Mystogan's full capabilities so we don't know anything of his upper tier magic. Neither side seem fazed in their skirmish so I doubt either of them were fighting with all they had.

I think Laxus wins (based off portrayal probably high to extreme like Erza v Laxus) but I don't think it had anything to do with how the skirmish went bcs it looked pretty even to me.
 

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What does that matter? She came under the effects and was shown attempting to resist. She wasn't powerful enough. Laxus was on the top floor and you'd be hard pressed to argue the one guy in the guild who knows his identity falling to a spell specifically used to protect it

Ok, so Laxus hit up Pikachu to charge his lacrima then. Tell me, who did he get to infuse it with organic link magic ? :doge
so you are saying laxus saw mystogan masked faced and new he was the other jellal, lol no.
either laxus snoring upstairs, or he had freed runes protecting him

laxus infused the lacrimas one year ago. any problem with that? after laxus strongest move was heaven helbert. the difference between lightening palace and that move is about lucy move and gildarts move
 

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so tell me about his portrayal. how many time and by whom is this portrayal, you speak of, happens?
Erza being knocked out LIKE the rest of the fodder by Mystogan's sleeping magic, unlike Laxus and Makarov. Laxus, despite his overwhelming arrogance acknowledging Mysotgan as a legitimate contender to being the strongest, unlike Erza. It being stated by other guild members it was Laxus and Mystogan in the running for FT's strongest.
 

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Erza being knocked out LIKE the rest of the fodder by Mystogan's sleeping magic, unlike Laxus and Makarov. Laxus, despite his overwhelming arrogance acknowledging Mysotgan as a legitimate contender to being the strongest, unlike Erza. It being stated by other guild members it was Laxus and Mystogan in the running for FT's strongest.
laxus was sleeping too. can you show me the panel where everyone was sleeping and laxus wasnt.

they were talking about the second strongest man. erza is not a man

so you basically have one statement. and that too from a guy who was pissed that evergreen lost to erza (wasnt laxus saying something like when did evergreen become so weak) lol
 

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laxus was sleeping too. can you show me the panel where everyone was sleeping and laxus wasnt.
I mean......according to him, he wasn't.

 

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And I see no reason to distrust him there. If he had fallen asleep like the rest, being as arrogant as he was back then, he wouldn't be casually chilling and smoking but mad as hell at Mystogan.
Not only that but during their fight, Laxus was about to say other- but it was cut off by Mystogan raging out. Laxus clearly knew.

 

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laxus was sleeping too. can you show me the panel where everyone was sleeping and laxus wasnt.

they were talking about the second strongest man. erza is not a man

so you basically have one statement. and that too from a guy who was pissed that evergreen lost to erza (wasnt laxus saying something like when did evergreen become so weak) lol
Laxus was never shown sleeping, he wasn't shown until after he left. That was a really dumb point.

No, they were talking about the strongest period.


Are you okay? Laxus being ridiculously arrogant yet still admitting Mystogan is in the conversation despite only strengthens my point. Laxus and Mystogan are highlighted as the top 2 yet Erza isn't, you have nothing.


The fact you thought Laxus was put to sleep is fucking hilarious.
 
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I mean......according to him, he wasn't.

laxus wasnt reliable then.

i would like to point out, laxus couldnt have figured out mystogan identity just by being awake.

he also had freed who could help him. again using sneak attack as basis of power leveling is amusing
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Laxus was never shown sleeping, he wasn't shown until after he left. That was a really dumb point.

No, they were talking about the strongest period.


Are you okay? Laxus being ridiculously arrogant yet still admitting Mystogan is in the conversation despite only strengthens my point. Laxus and Mystogan are highlighted as the top 2 yet Erza isn't, you have nothing.


The fact you thought Laxus was put to sleep is fucking hilarious.
lol, no. show me the panel where he isnt asleep. his claims were stupid as hell in that arc. he literally thought evergreen could take erza.

again laxus statement. the coversation laxus is talking about happened between some unknown people, who were talking about who is the second strongest man, mystogan or laxus (of course, those people actually never saw mystogan)(i dont really remember where this conversation took place). in the start, when mystogan and laxus debut, erza, mystogan and laxus were those candidates who came after the geezer, lucy even drew a chart for that. no one knew who was stronger, erza, laxus or mystogan. only people who actually knew who was stronger, were also part of laxus cult, like raijinshuu and many here, in this very forum

the hilarious part is you believe everything the bad guy says, as long as that bad guy is laxus. :teehee
 
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There's something else that I think no one has pointed out that I'd like to discuss here.

Isn't Mystogan, actually, like, the weakest Fairy Tail member? And I mean weaker than Romeo Conbolt.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people from Edolas actually have literally no magic power at all, and even at a time during which Edolas was full of magic power that they stole from Earth, they were only able of using magic tools and employing the magic from the tools and not from themselves (who, once again, can't use magic).

We're disregarding things like the Thunder Palace "because it was the magic from some lacrima and not Laxus' own magic", but that's exactly the whole deal with Mystogan: He has no magic, it's the magic from his staffs, that anyone can wield.
 

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There's something else that I think no one has pointed out that I'd like to discuss here.

Isn't Mystogan, actually, like, the weakest Fairy Tail member? And I mean weaker than Romeo Conbolt.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people from Edolas actually have literally no magic power at all, and even at a time during which Edolas was full of magic power that they stole from Earth, they were only able of using magic tools and employing the magic from the tools and not from themselves (who, once again, can't use magic).

We're disregarding things like the Thunder Palace "because it was the magic from some lacrima and not Laxus' own magic", but that's exactly the whole deal with Mystogan: He has no magic, it's the magic from his staffs, that anyone can wield.
lol yes, but i guess we can ignore it under caster type and holder type mages, and not look too deep into it
 

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laxus wasnt reliable then.

i would like to point out, laxus couldnt have figured out mystogan identity just by being awake.

he also had freed who could help him. again using sneak attack as basis of power leveling is amusing
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lol, no. show me the panel where he isnt asleep. his claims were stupid as hell in that arc. he literally thought evergreen could take erza.

again laxus statement. the coversation laxus is talking about happened between some unknown people, who were talking about who is the second strongest man, mystogan or laxus (of course, those people actually never saw mystogan)(i dont really remember where this conversation took place). in the start, when mystogan and laxus debut, erza, mystogan and laxus were those candidates who came after the geezer, lucy even drew a chart for that. no one knew who was stronger, erza, laxus or mystogan. only people who actually knew who was stronger, were also part of laxus cult, like raijinshuu and many here, in this very forum

the hilarious part is you believe everything the bad guy says, as long as that bad guy is laxus. :teehee
No panel is needed, Loke said no one knew about Mystogan because he put everyone to sleep, Laxus said he knew, the implication was clear. Him not falling for Mystogans spell was just another instance of Laxus being likened to Makarov.
There's something else that I think no one has pointed out that I'd like to discuss here.

Isn't Mystogan, actually, like, the weakest Fairy Tail member? And I mean weaker than Romeo Conbolt.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people from Edolas actually have literally no magic power at all, and even at a time during which Edolas was full of magic power that they stole from Earth, they were only able of using magic tools and employing the magic from the tools and not from themselves (who, once again, can't use magic).

We're disregarding things like the Thunder Palace "because it was the magic from some lacrima and not Laxus' own magic", but that's exactly the whole deal with Mystogan: He has no magic, it's the magic from his staffs, that anyone can wield.
It presumably takes skill to use them all, maybe that's why he has so many, when it's time for him to level up he gets himself a new staff.
 

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No panel is needed, Loke said no one knew about Mystogan because he put everyone to sleep, Laxus said he knew, the implication was clear. Him not falling for Mystogans spell was just another instance of Laxus being likened to Makarov.

It presumably takes skill to use them all, maybe that's why he has so many, when it's time for him to level up he gets himself a new staff.
or it was simply another event about laxus thinking he is the big shot. nothing more. laxus later will say he ain giving up his self made strongest award to erza or mystogan
 

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or it was simply another event about laxus thinking he is the big shot. nothing more. laxus later will say he ain giving up his self made strongest award to erza or mystogan
It was likely both
So? Laxus probably was stronger than those two. And when asked about Gildarts he would say "he ain't never coming back" rather than "I'm stronger", he knows his place
 

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laxus wasnt reliable then.
According to who?

he also had freed who could help him.
All speculation.
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or it was simply another event about laxus thinking he is the big shot. nothing more. laxus later will say he ain giving up his self made strongest award to erza or mystogan
He really only did this because Gildarts comes back only rarely. Makarov acknowledged this and Mystogan said this before their fight.
 

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It was likely both
So? Laxus probably was stronger than those two. And when asked about Gildarts he would say "he ain't never coming back" rather than "I'm stronger", he knows his place
no he didnt, he actually thought he could beat maakarov. laxus had huge ego then, which was cured after that arc. and that is why he doesnt behave like that anymore
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According to who?



All speculation.
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He really only did this because Gildarts comes back only rarely. Makarov acknowledged this and Mystogan said this before their fight.
according to that freaking arc. that was the point of that arc, laxus was wrong.

maybe, or he was just sleeping then

marakrov never said he was the strongest, nor did mystogan
 

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according to that freaking arc. that was the point of that arc, laxus was wrong.
That makes no sense. He clearly knew who Mystogan was.
maybe, or he was just sleeping then
If he was, he wouldn't know who Mystogan was. There is proof he knew who Mystogan was. You haven't shown proof contradicting this.

marakrov never said he was the strongest, nor did mystogan
I never said or implied this.
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no he didnt, he actually thought he could beat maakarov. laxus had huge ego then, which was cured after that arc. and that is why he doesnt behave like that anymore
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according to that freaking arc. that was the point of that arc, laxus was wrong.

maybe, or he was just sleeping then

marakrov never said he was the strongest, nor did mystogan
So? Based on his performance against Hades, he might've been able to, he definitely would've given him a heart attack considering what happened later in the arc. He also took Makarov very seriously, he knew it'd be his greatest challenge, just like he knew Gildarts was stronger than he was. Laxus' ego was huge, but he knew the pecking order in the guild, Gildarts>Makarov=Laxus>Mystogan&Erza
 

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So? Based on his performance against Hades, he might've been able to, he definitely would've given him a heart attack considering what happened later in the arc. He also took Makarov very seriously, he knew it'd be his greatest challenge, just like he knew Gildarts was stronger than he was. Laxus' ego was huge, but he knew the pecking order in the guild, Gildarts>Makarov=Laxus>Mystogan&Erza
that just means he had a big head.
no according to laxus it was something like
gildarts>marakrov=laxus>mystogan>>evergreen>erza>>natsu

laxus was so pissed that evergreen couldnt even take out erza
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That makes no sense. He clearly knew who Mystogan was.


If he was, he wouldn't know who Mystogan was. There is proof he knew who Mystogan was. You haven't shown proof contradicting this.



I never said or implied this.
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the arc main lesson was that laxus was wrong. his fairy tail guild will be a disaster. he underestimated everyone but his side people

he did back ground research on mystogan. no way he is finding existence of an entire world by eavesdropping. you have no proof he didnt sleep (other than laxus words).
 
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