Fantasy Alvarez vs God Tiers

[Seven777]

The entirety of Alvarez, the soldiers, the spriggans, Zeref, everyone, take on some god tiers. How do they do?

Round 1: %50 Merc
Round 2: Aldaron
Round 3: Igneel
Round 4: Acnologia
Round 5: RoT Acnologia

 

[Axiomus]

They maybe make it past Mercphobia. Maybe. I only say this because Mercphobia's roars and whatnot are tankable. He has to drown his opponents to actually kill them. Or whack them with his body, I guess.

Aldoron stomps if he actually fights them with his dragon form. Just hide the seeds safely in the throne room, and it'll take 100 million FDK attacks on the level of demolition fist to take him down. He can just thicket until he's bored.

Ignia stomps if he bothers to aim. So does Acnologia. Really that's the main thing about god tiers. Instead of just blind-firing all the time, just pick a single guy and roar him off the face of the earth. Too arrogant I suppose.

 

[Tirl]

They easily pass through 1-2-3 cuz Zeref is immortal and eventually kill dragons with death curse.

Round 3 is low-mid diff for a single spriggan (who can actually fight) and low-no diff for Irene or August

 

[grey matter]

50% Merc stomps, no diff.

They easily pass through 1-2-3 cuz Zeref is immortal and eventually kill dragons with death curse.

Round 3 is low-mid diff for a single spriggan (who can actually fight) and low-no diff for Irene or August

Zeref's curse works only if he sees them as precious. None of the Spriggans or Zeref has attack power to even scratch Igneel, Igneel gave Acno a high-extreme diff

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They maybe make it past Mercphobia. Maybe. I only say this because Mercphobia's roars and whatnot are tankable. He has to drown his opponents to actually kill them. Or whack them with his body, I guess.

Aldoron stomps if he actually fights them with his dragon form. Just hide the seeds safely in the throne room, and it'll take 100 million FDK attacks on the level of demolition fist to take him down. He can just thicket until he's bored.

Ignia stomps if he bothers to aim. So does Acnologia. Really that's the main thing about god tiers. Instead of just blind-firing all the time, just pick a single guy and roar him off the face of the earth. Too arrogant I suppose.

Merc can just use his human form to give everyone the Serena treatment.

Also, it's magical water. See what Juvia can do with her water, Merc can do attacks 1000 times more effectively

 

[Jko]

Don't get passed Acno. Will beat R1 and 2 soundly. Dunno about Igneel tho. Will have to wait and see what Ignia can burn or some flashback to see what level Igneel's flames can burn (specifically high tier concepts like time) in order to gauge if he can get past the hax of the S12 and Zeref.

 

[Ramen]

Get super pasted all 5 rounds

 

[WoWfan]

I would say like stops around after r2. With GS on their side combined with Brandish magic, that would give them the edge on Aldoron.

 

[Verter]

Zeref solo R1-R3.

 

[Axiomus]

Giant Gajeel lasted less than 3 minutes against Aldoron. Don't see why God Serena would do better. God Serena doesn't even have Gajeel's iron skin to block the first wave of thicket. He gets impaled like Natsu did against the god seed.

Death curse is irrelevant. Zeref has to value life in order for the curse to trigger. Even when the curse is firing off, it doesn't insta-kill Aldoron. It slowly spreads. Zeref becomes weak when he values life too, so Aldoron just has to send a God Seed over that's stronger than Ultear to go over there and knock him out.

Honestly, it wouldn't even be a fight if Alvarez isn't already standing on Aldoron when the fight begins. In a random encounter where Aldoron simply approaches Alvarez as a dragon, he chucks this at their general direction and anyone directly hit by the thorn simply disappears. Anyone that doesn't eats more of this, thicket, or runs the risk of simply getting stepped on.

Spoiler

Igneel fought Acnologia for 20 minutes, knocked him out, and then bit off an arm. He doesn't need to be able to burn time to beat Zeref because there's no Fairy Heart here. Though I would argue that Ignia's flames have already shown the temperatures needed to burn time (burning Natsu's arms > burning time).

 

[LaGOAT]

2-5 no diff
R1 would be a maybe if not merc extreme diff

 

[sharkai]

i think they can win here.
i have some assumptions, if true, alverzec should win
1) aconologia is around dragon gods. (thus irene and august tier can hurt them)
2) rot aconologia is far above dragon gods (thus pof erza tier can hurt them)
3) aldron was actually pretty much held up by giant gajeel (brandish becomes a super weapon)
4) fairy sphere only stopped movement of rot aconologia soul (natsu rainbow punch can oneshot him)

as long the above are true. then irene can take powers from all springgans and except brandish, turn herself into buhumut size dragon (irene = gajeel size, dragon irene =5 x human irene size, gaint gajeel = aldron size, gaint dragon irene = 5 x aldron). she enchants herself more stronger and durable, or does that rainbow punch like thing.
we still have zeref and hug amount of soldiers for distraction

should clear all the round.

 

[Axiomus]

i think they can win here.
i have some assumptions, if true, alverzec should win
1) aconologia is around dragon gods. (thus irene and august tier can hurt them)
2) rot aconologia is far above dragon gods (thus pof erza tier can hurt them)
3) aldron was actually pretty much held up by giant gajeel (brandish becomes a super weapon)
4) fairy sphere only stopped movement of rot aconologia soul (natsu rainbow punch can oneshot him)

as long the above are true. then irene can take powers from all springgans and except brandish, turn herself into buhumut size dragon (irene = gajeel size, dragon irene =5 x human irene size, gaint gajeel = aldron size, gaint dragon irene = 5 x aldron). she enchants herself more stronger and durable, or does that rainbow punch like thing.
we still have zeref and hug amount of soldiers for distraction

should clear all the round.

1) Since when can August and Irene tiers hurt Acnologia? Even with dragon slaying magic, they would barely do any damage to Acnologia. Natsu was able to negate most of the damage from August's melt nuke to the point that Happy, Lucy, and Mest got off with minor injuries. Acnologia would do the same to any incoming magical attack. He tanked roars from Igneel without a scratch. It takes 20 minutes of brawling for Igneel to damage Acnologia.

2) Erza didn't hurt ROT Acnologia. Her swords shattered upon impact against Acnologia's scales. It did no real damage. All she could do was push him towards a boat, which is basically the same as Christina pushing Acnologia into the rift. This is not even an issue against some of the god dragons. Aldoron is way too big to be moved, and Mercphobia is way larger than Acnologia too (though he can possibly be moved).

3) Aldoron murked Gajeel in less than 3 minutes, then began soloing the entire guild with thicket.

4) Whether or not Fairy Sphere nerfed Acnologia is irrelevant. At best, we know that Natsu with 7DS can beat a human Acno whose paralyzed. None of the god dragons are ever going to be in that position. They're going to be fighting in their dragon forms, which nobody is oneshotting. And honestly, it wasn't just the 7 dragons power that Natsu had. There was also a massive amount of POF. Lucy literally connected everyone's feelings and then sent it to Natsu.

August and Irene can't hurt Acnologia, Erza didn't hurt ROT Acno, Giant Gajeel got wrecked in less than 3 minutes, and Natsu oneshotting Acnologia's paralyzed spirit doesn't mean he can do the same to his moving dragon form. Also, the combined power of all the Spriggans aren't equal to Acnologia. That's why Fairy Heart was necessary. They don't get past Aldoron. The seed that impaled Gajeel is the size of a mountain, and at full power Aldoron is too fast for Natsu tiers to even perceive. Wolfen Seed can make an army of Zerefs and Gildarts. So long as they stay away from the main body, there's no issue with the curse.

 

[sharkai]

1) Since when can August and Irene tiers hurt Acnologia? Even with dragon slaying magic, they would barely do any damage to Acnologia. Natsu was able to negate most of the damage from August's melt nuke to the point that Happy, Lucy, and Mest got off with minor injuries. Acnologia would do the same to any incoming magical attack. He tanked roars from Igneel without a scratch. It takes 20 minutes of brawling for Igneel to damage Acnologia.

2) Erza didn't hurt ROT Acnologia. Her swords shattered upon impact against Acnologia's scales. It did no real damage. All she could do was push him towards a boat, which is basically the same as Christina pushing Acnologia into the rift. This is not even an issue against some of the god dragons. Aldoron is way too big to be moved, and Mercphobia is way larger than Acnologia too (though he can possibly be moved).

3) Aldoron murked Gajeel in less than 3 minutes, then began soloing the entire guild with thicket.

4) Whether or not Fairy Sphere nerfed Acnologia is irrelevant. At best, we know that Natsu with 7DS can beat a human Acno whose paralyzed. None of the god dragons are ever going to be in that position. They're going to be fighting in their dragon forms, which nobody is oneshotting. And honestly, it wasn't just the 7 dragons power that Natsu had. There was also a massive amount of POF. Lucy literally connected everyone's feelings and then sent it to Natsu.

August and Irene can't hurt Acnologia, Erza didn't hurt ROT Acno, Giant Gajeel got wrecked by Aldoron, and Natsu oneshotting Acnologia's paralyzed spirit doesn't mean he can do the same to his moving dragon form. Also, the combined power of all the Spriggans aren't equal to Acnologia. That's why Fairy Heart was necessary. They don't get past Aldoron. The seed that impaled Gajeel is the size of a mountain, and at full power Aldoron is too fast for Natsu tiers to even perceive. Wolfen Seed can make an army of Zerefs. So long as they stay away from the main body, there's no issue with the curse.

sense characters like aconologia had to block causal irene attack. it means that these chacters can hurt them. of course dragon gods can block or negate these moves.
only reason erza didnt hurt rot aconologia is because she aint a ds. power was not an issue here.
aldron didnt murk gajeel. he got pretty much stalemate by him. only his magical attack ddi anything to gaint agjeel. who mind didnt use any magical attack

i dont know about lucy. springgan powers cobineed will be alot stronger than ds power combined (no pof obviouksy). and there are soldiers. and irene is bahamut size

 

[Seven777]

Spriggans power combined won't be stronger than DS power combined. Combining DS magic creates enormous multipliers, even the tiny remnants of Rogue's magic boosted Sting above Larcade. The only boost on that level Eileen might get is from God Serena, the rest can't compete. 7 DS mode destroyed Acno while on the other hand the guilds Fairy Sphere couldn't even contain him without the strength of the entire continent.

 

[Axiomus]

sense characters like aconologia had to block causal irene attack. it means that these chacters can hurt them. of course dragon gods can block or negate these moves.
only reason erza didnt hurt rot aconologia is because she aint a ds. power was not an issue here.
aldron didnt murk gajeel. he got pretty much stalemate by him. only his magical attack ddi anything to gaint agjeel. who mind didnt use any magical attack

i dont know about lucy. springgan powers cobineed will be alot stronger than ds power combined (no pof obviouksy). and there are soldiers. and irene is bahamut size

No it doesn't. Whether or not Acnologia chooses to block an attack is irrelevant. Acnologia was knocked out of the sky by Igneel's roar, which he didn't block. Didn't even scratch him.

Erza had dragon slaying seal against Mercphobia. Didn't hurt him there either.

This is not a stalemate. Max size could only last 3 minutes, and Gajeel got impaled before he reached the time limit. And Gajeel did use magic. He used his iron skin to defend against the first set of thicket.

Spoiler: Not a stalemate

Debatable, depending how OP current Natsu is. But either way, we were told that the dragon slayers got stronger because they heard the voices of their loved ones. Lucy literally had a speech where she connected everyone's voices and sent it to Natsu.

 

[sharkai]

Spriggans power combined won't be stronger than DS power combined. Combining DS magic creates enormous multipliers, even the tiny remnants of Rogue's magic boosted Sting above Larcade. The only boost on that level Eileen might get is from God Serena, the rest can't compete. 7 DS mode destroyed Acno while on the other hand the guilds Fairy Sphere couldn't even contain him without the strength of the entire continent.

is the multiplier only for ds?

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No it doesn't. Whether or not Acnologia chooses to block an attack is irrelevant. Acnologia was knocked out of the sky by Igneel's roar, which he didn't block. Didn't even scratch him.

Erza had dragon slaying seal against Mercphobia. Didn't hurt him there either.

This is not a stalemate. Max size could only last 3 minutes, and Gajeel got impaled before he reached the time limit. And Gajeel did use magic. He used his iron skin to defend against the first set of thicket.

Spoiler: Not a stalemate

Debatable, depending how OP current Natsu is. But either way, we were told that the dragon slayers got stronger because they heard the voices of their loved ones. Lucy literally had a speech where she connected everyone's voices and sent it to Natsu.

aconologia is resistant to magic, other dragon gods arent

erza wasnt in her pof state

you are just showing the last panel. gajeel made aldron eat mud. buhumut size irene will kill this aldron with just a claw swipe. think about it
buhumut size irene physical strongth>>>gaint gajeel physical strength>>>>>dragon irene physical strength>>human irene physical stength>gajeel physical strength

as i said i know nothing lucy role.

 

[Seven777]

is the multiplier only for ds?

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aconologia is resistant to magic, other dragon gods arent

erza wasnt in her pof state

you are just showing the last panel. gajeel made aldron eat mud. buhumut size irene will kill this aldron with just a claw swipe. think about it
buhumut size irene physical strongth>>>gaint gajeel physical strength>>>>>dragon irene physical strength>>human irene physical stength>gajeel physical strength

as i said i know nothing lucy role.

Probably depends on Mashima's mood

 

[sharkai]

Probably depends on Mashima's mood

so i am just putting same multiplier for everyone
so mp wise
august irene>natsu laxus>average springgan>gajeel>>sting rouge>>cobra wendy

if same multilier is there, irene will have more power than natsu when he did that rainbow punch (excluding pof ofcourse)

 

[Seven777]

so i am just putting same multiplier for everyone
so mp wise
august irene>natsu laxus>average springgan>gajeel>>sting rouge>>cobra wendy

if same multilier is there, irene will have more power than natsu when he did that rainbow punch (excluding pof ofcourse)

Well first off, I'd put Gajeel well above the average spriggan. That aside, they're not getting the same multiplier, I'm not even sure the MP the individual Dragon Slayer has matters for 7 DS mode. FH Zeref has much more MP than the whole of Alvarez anyway

 

[sharkai]

Well first off, I'd put Gajeel well above the average spriggan. That aside, they're not getting the same multiplier, I'm not even sure the MP the individual Dragon Slayer has matters for 7 DS mode. FH Zeref has much more MP than the whole of Alvarez anyway

then there is no logical answers. we can only do basic maths