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How many moderate Republicans were against Trump? Cruz and Rubio banding together wouldn't have made much of a difference, Trump had incredible momentum and could have kept going regardless. The only thing that could have stopped him was not being a bigoted piece of shit.
 

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What a different place this world might be.

If people read the news.

Am I right.


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HNY!
 

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"They're shredding ballots in my opinion, based on what I heard"

source: dude trust me

The fact that he doesn't have enough supporters that don't even selfishly distance themselves for their own political reasons at this point is fucking mind-boggling to me. They're either stupid enough to think there will be some sort of power vacuum in the GOP that they intend to feast on like some dead carcass, or they really believe the things they say. At what point does their line of thinking and this stunt actually enter seditious territory?
 

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So that's the whole transcript. It's... amazing in all the wrong ways. A few of my favorita trump lines:

No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I’m sure you’re a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.
Trump: Oh this isn’t social media. This is Trump media. It’s not social media. It’s really not; it’s not social media. I don’t care about social media. I couldn’t care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side, you know. I don’t even know why you have a side because you should want to have an accurate election. And you’re a Republican.
Trump doesn't even have a clue of even basic ethics. The other guys are pretty much going "NO YOU IDIOT, GIVING THAT TO YOU WOULD BE GROSSLY ILLEGAL!". Trump has been at this for 4 years and he has not an iota of a clue of how government works. And no, this isn't trump not caring about ethics... he literally doesn't know.
 

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Just one Question: wasn’t the AG were actually and fully aware he was taping this under his own conscience? That is, he taped this perfectly knowing all the repercussions that comes with it? Both good and bad (mostly good, I’m betting).
 

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Just one Question: wasn’t the AG were actually and fully aware he was taping this under his own conscience? That is, he taped this perfectly knowing all the repercussions that comes with it? Both good and bad (mostly good, I’m betting).
Honestly, no idea. I can't find any reference to there being an issue with this conversation being recorded and given to the WP. It's not a conversation about classified information or anything official, just trump and his lawyers talking with raffensperger and his lawyers... I suppose whether trump sues him or not depends on whether he thinks the optics of it will favor him or not.

I will point out one thing though: Back when woodward was doing his rounds at the white house and interviewing trump, trump said covid19 was very dangerous and he was downplaying it. To a reporter. Who made a career out of watergate. He said those words. In that order. In that context. He actually thought saying that was fine and that no one would take issue with it. Trump is consistently, incomprehensibly, clueless about his surroundings. So even if trump did know he was being recorderd, it wouldn't have made a difference to him.
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On another note, this is staggeringly stupid. It's one thing to call for trans folk to get treated with kindness and decency and pass legislation so that they can't be discriminated and whatnot. It's another to change congress rules to accommodate the minuscule percentage of the population to whom this is a thing.
 

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What a different place this world might be.

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HNY!
Whats the problem with reentering the nuclear deal? Its a good thing that you dont want them having nukes, isnt it?

On the lobbying with Amazon, its no different than Trumps. Its always gonna happen... If you were concerned about that, should've voted for Yang..


didn't read the rest...
 

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Whats the problem with reentering the nuclear deal? Its a good thing that you dont want them having nukes, isnt it?

On the lobbying with Amazon, its no different than Trumps. Its always gonna happen... If you were concerned about that, should've voted for Yang..


didn't read the rest...

The iran nuclear deal is identical to the north korean nuclear deal that gave NK nukes.

Democrats: "We'll pay north korea billions of dollars to not pursue nuclear technology."
North Korea: --Takes billions and spends it to attain nuclear weapons years earlier than they would without the deal--

Fast forward more than a decade.

Democrats: "We'll pay iran billions of dollars not to pursue nuclear technology."
Iran: --Does the same thing north korea did--

Lobbying with amazon and big tech shows they're in bed with the democrat party. Money from silicon valley flows primarily into BLM, antifa and democrat pockets. None of it goes to republicans or Trump.

Andrew Yang is a hard no.
 

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There never was a north korea deal which lead to north korea developing nuclear missiles... North korea did back out of the NPT but suggesting that them being in it led to them having nuclear wars is straight up absurd and a lie. And Iran was actually sticking to the deal. At least according to literally every party involved in it. The US backing out of the deal in spite of every shred of evidence pointing to iran sticking to it is a huge stain in US diplomacy and pretty much showed the US as a country being a country of liars. Add to that, the US didn't pay billions to iran to not build weapons. Unfreezing iran assets is in no way, shape, form or context paying them. You can't pay people with stuff they already own.
 

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There never was a north korea deal which lead to north korea developing nuclear missiles... North korea did back out of the NPT but suggesting that them being in it led to them having nuclear wars is straight up absurd and a lie.



Au contraire. Its real bruh.

Basic google search would tell u this.


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Au contraire. Its real bruh.

Basic google search would tell u this.


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The article is horseshit and doesn't even bother to make a case for what it's saying. It just says stuff without providing any context.... Nothing about what actually happened back then suggests the reason NK got bombs is because the US tried diplomatic solutions to their issues. The US and NK made a deal, NK didn't stick to their end of the deal and it was ended. It's absurd to suggest that if the US hadn't tried diplomatic solutions the NK would never have had nuclear bombs.
 

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The article is horseshit and doesn't even bother to make a case for what it's saying. It just says stuff without providing any context.... Nothing about what actually happened back then suggests the reason NK got bombs is because the US tried diplomatic solutions to their issues. The US and NK made a deal, NK didn't stick to their end of the deal and it was ended. It's absurd to suggest that if the US hadn't tried diplomatic solutions the NK would never have had nuclear bombs.

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Back in 1994, President Clinton prepared to confront North Korea over CIA reports it had built nuclear warheads and its subsequent threats to engulf Japan and South Korea in “a sea of fire.”

Enter self-appointed peacemaker Carter: The ex-prez scurried off to Pyongyang and negotiated a sellout deal that gave North Korea two new reactors and $5 billion in aid in return for a promise to quit seeking nukes.

Clinton embraced this appeasement as achieving “an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean Peninsula” — with compliance verified by international inspectors. Carter wound up winning the Nobel Peace Prize for his dubious efforts.

They gave north korea 2 nuclear reactors as a baseline for how the technology worked and $5 billion dollars to buy blackmarket nuclear technology.

Why didn't they give Al Qaeda $10 billion to stop attacking american targets after the 9/11 bombings in 2001?

It would have been the same thing. Appeasement to terrorists and rogue regimes.

I take it you 100% approve of giving terrorist regimes like iran free money? You were probably very sad and cried when Trump killed general soleimani as many leftists/democrats were.

That seems to be what you're saying here. I won't judge bruh.


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... Article excerpt:




They gave north korea 2 nuclear reactors as a baseline for how the technology worked and $5 billion dollars to buy blackmarket nuclear technology.

Why didn't they give Al Qaeda $10 billion to stop attacking american targets after the 9/11 bombings in 2001?

It would have been the same thing. Appeasement to terrorists and rogue regimes.

I take it you 100% approve of giving terrorist regimes like iran free money? You were probably very sad and cried when Trump killed general soleimani as many leftists/democrats were.

That seems to be what you're saying here. I won't judge bruh.


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As I said, lies. Clinton didn't give reactors to NK.... there were nuclear reactors as part of the deal but they were never built and even then weren't adequate for building weapon grade nuclear material. And it's plainly not true that they gave 5 billion to NK. A basic google search shows that.

And "black market nuclear technology"? REAALLY? That's not a thing and the implication it is is staggeringly stupid. If its a thing then clearly not any one specific government can be blamed for this since it's ultimately stuff that can simply be bought...
 

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As I said, lies. Clinton didn't give reactors to NK.... there were nuclear reactors as part of the deal but they were never built and even then weren't adequate for building weapon grade nuclear material. And it's plainly not true that they gave 5 billion to NK. A basic google search shows that.

Do you agree that Obama gave iran $1.7 billion in free money?


Do you agree that Bill Clinton has a long history of giving away sensitive and classified defense technology to nations like china and north korea?


The pieces fit. :toc

(Note how publications claiming Clinton didn't give NK $5 billion were all published within the past 2-3 years. They're all newly published content cuz they're all revisionist fake news)

Anyone vaguely familiar with Clinton's presidency knows he was a far worse President than Obama, one of the worst US Presidents of all time.

Bill Clinton giving north korea billions and 2 reactors to accelerate development of their nuclear program wouldn't rank in the top 20 of the worst things he's done.
 

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Do you agree that Obama gave iran $1.7 billion in free money?


Do you agree that Bill Clinton has a long history of giving away sensitive and classified defense technology to nations like china and north korea?


The pieces fit. :toc

(Note how publications claiming Clinton didn't give NK $5 billion were all published within the past 2-3 years. They're all newly published content cuz they're all revisionist fake news)

Anyone vaguely familiar with Clinton's presidency knows he was a far worse President than Obama, one of the worst US Presidents of all time.

Bill Clinton giving north korea billions and 2 reactors to accelerate development of their nuclear program wouldn't rank in the top 20 of the worst things he's done.
No, it was money that originally belonged to iran.... Even the article is clear about that. It's can't be free money if it already belongs to them.

As for the clinton bit... kinda? But this wasn't anything nefarious or wrong... This was the US getting stuff it needed in exchange for stuff...

That's not really how the stuff with the clinton attempted deal with NK played out but sure, go on with your petty lies.
 

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The iran nuclear deal is identical to the north korean nuclear deal that gave NK nukes.

Democrats: "We'll pay north korea billions of dollars to not pursue nuclear technology."
North Korea: --Takes billions and spends it to attain nuclear weapons years earlier than they would without the deal--

Fast forward more than a decade.

Democrats: "We'll pay iran billions of dollars not to pursue nuclear technology."
Iran: --Does the same thing north korea did--

Lobbying with amazon and big tech shows they're in bed with the democrat party. Money from silicon valley flows primarily into BLM, antifa and democrat pockets. None of it goes to republicans or Trump.

Andrew Yang is a hard no.
Well, there is no proof Iran did pursue during the nuclear deal. They did pursue it after Trump was elected and yea, as per my colleagues from Iran, he is pretty popular to remove that restriction.

Iran had an energy crisis and restriction of the uranium source would've helped their nuclear plans..

ON big tech:
The problem with the tech industry isnt lobbying. The way these companies are lobbying is nowhere close to what big tobacco, oil, automobile or even food industries have. Its the dems who are taking big tech to court because of their growth, not republicans.
Democrats could be criticized for not doing enough, but definitely not in bed with them. B
Your tone is always like a doomsday level in defending republicans to the point that being republican is greater than being an american. That's not a good thing...
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and whats the point og bringing CLinton into this? its been 30 years since he was president... The republican supporters can still not get over that he won.
 

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Beyond that.. lobbying in general has become an issue within the US. Lobbying and campaign donations pretty much move politics. And most big donors end up donating to both parties.
and whats the point og bringing CLinton into this? its been 30 years since he was president... The republican supporters can still not get over that he won.
The problem is that the republican party is composed almost entirely of unhinged nutjobs who believe the most inane and stupid things. At least a majority of the party the clintons basically lead a communist new world order satanic child eating cabal. And that's pretty much the start of the utterly stupid impossible things people in this cult believe. Massive underground tunnels under pretty much every major city, trump secretly invading other countries to secretly arrest pedophiles (which include oprah and tom hanks among many others), trump secretly destroying these massive secret tunnels using the army.... Last year there also was a stupid conspiracy theory about trump secretly taking out a massive boat with 50k children that were going to be raped or have their brain juices harvested by liberal elites. There really is no limit to how stupid this is.
 

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and whats the point og bringing CLinton into this? its been 30 years since he was president... The republican supporters can still not get over that he won.
The way the right works is that they have scapegoats and people to blame and enjoy blaming everyone else but themselves. Note how Trump continuously blames OBama and Hillary Clinton, as well as Dems, even when he's the one who fucks up, or his party. Republicans don't like the Clintons and hate Hillary and Obama the most as they're not white males.
 

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The problem is that the republican party is composed almost entirely of unhinged nutjobs who believe the most inane and stupid things. At least a majority of the party the clintons basically lead a communist new world order satanic child eating cabal. And that's pretty much the start of the utterly stupid impossible things people in this cult believe. Massive underground tunnels under pretty much every major city, trump secretly invading other countries to secretly arrest pedophiles (which include oprah and tom hanks among many others), trump secretly destroying these massive secret tunnels using the army.... Last year there also was a stupid conspiracy theory about trump secretly taking out a massive boat with 50k children that were going to be raped or have their brain juices harvested by liberal elites. There really is no limit to how stupid this is.
I think they need more youth joining the party. Dan Crenshaw is pretty good, articulate and has a strong conservative base. He also spoke against Trump after the election results were declared so even though i disagree with him politically, i see him as a few of the republicans who put principles ahead of politics.
They need more of such people joining. While i dont think principled liberals is also a rarity, we are seeing more of them rising through the ranks.

The way the right works is that they have scapegoats and people to blame and enjoy blaming everyone else but themselves. Note how Trump continuously blames OBama and Hillary Clinton, as well as Dems, even when he's the one who fucks up, or his party. Republicans don't like the Clintons and hate Hillary and Obama the most as they're not white males.
We wouldn't expect anything less than that from Trump. He's the worst and a lot of republicans will look back and think of how ridiculous they were in supporting him. Republicans are distancing themselves slowly.
Yea, i dont get their hatred of Clintons at all. Its so ridiculous... How many times did Obama blame Bush vs Trump blame Obama? Even though Obama had two terms, it was way lower.
 

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Dan Crenshaw is a dumbass, based on his tweets. Fuck him, and his so-called "principles."

Republicans won't be looking back in bad light, if anything they'll probably look back in a more positive light in regards to Trump.

Clintons and Obama are excellent symbols to focus the republicans' hate on. That's mainly it.
 
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