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Abusing a woman for ten years and then trying to sacrifice her bcs your "god" says told you so, isn't what I would define as a healthy relationship. Erza also has few screws loose in her head for easily forgiving him lol.
 

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Abusing a woman for ten years and then trying to sacrifice her bcs your "god" says told you so, isn't what I would define as a healthy relationship. Erza also has few screws loose in her head for easily forgiving him lol.
Right? Like bruh......and then for the next 10 he's like "nah I can't be with you. Muh sins and stuff" lol
 
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Right? Like bruh......and then for the next 10 he's like "nah I can't be with you. Muh sins and stuff" lol
And she is just "waiting" on him to come around like a lovesick puppy. -_-;:sclap There relationship is at the point where a childhood crush becomes an obsession. Even Gajeel actively engaged the problems he has committed instead of run from it lol.

It's kind of sad that most top FT relationships have some type of stockholm syndrome vibe to it as well lol.
 

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JerZa is by far the worst ship in this series. The only decent ones is Laxus x Mira which doesn't even exist which should tell you about how bad the others are.
Personally I like Laxus and Mira as a couple and I wish it happens
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Abusing a woman for ten years and then trying to sacrifice her bcs your "god" says told you so, isn't what I would define as a healthy relationship. Erza also has few screws loose in her head for easily forgiving him lol.
Let forget about the brainwashing
 

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And she is just "waiting" on him to come around like a lovesick puppy. -_-;:sclap There relationship is at the point where a childhood crush becomes an obsession. Even Gajeel actively engaged the problems he has committed instead of run from it lol.

It's kind of sad that most top FT relationships have some type of stockholm syndrome vibe to it as well lol.
Apart from Levy and gajeel, I don’t see any other pair stockholm syndrome because erza loved jellal before her brainwashing and zevis mavis fell to dying of zeref before she tortured her.
 
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And she is just "waiting" on him to come around like a lovesick puppy. -_-;:sclap There relationship is at the point where a childhood crush becomes an obsession. Even Gajeel actively engaged the problems he has committed instead of run from it lol.

It's kind of sad that most top FT relationships have some type of stockholm syndrome vibe to it as well lol.
At least Natsu is dense and Gray can admit his feelings and act jealous. Jellal just runs away like a loser and makes no moves. It's just beating a dead horse at this point.



Personally I like Laxus and Mira as a couple and I wish it happens
Same my friend.
 

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Apart from levy and gajeel, I don’t see any other pair stockholm syndrome because erza loved jellal before her brainwashing and zevis mavis fell to dying of zeref before she tortured her.
Stockholm "vibes" not that they are directly stockholm syndrome lol.
Personally I like Laxus and Mira as a couple and I wish it happens
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Let forget about the brainwashing
Everything he did was of his own free will. Brainwashing doesn't excuse his action at all and his brainwashing was a joke. He got played by an illusion and followed Zeref's "will" till Natsu smacked him up lol.
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At least Natsu is dense and Gray can admit his feelings and act jealous. Jellal just runs away like a loser and makes no moves. It's just beating a dead horse at this point.





Same my friend.
Exactly, they are at least present in their relationships unlike Jellal who is off doing who knows what. His plan of absolving himself of his guilt was to beat a guy (Zeref) who had nothing to do with him lol. His redemption arc is as much of a joke as his relationship with Erza.
 

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His brainwashing was when he was a child so hard for a child to resist brainwashing
 

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Stockholm "vibes" not that they are directly stockholm syndrome lol.

Everything he did was of his own free will. Brainwashing doesn't excuse his action at all and his brainwashing was a joke. He got played by an illusion and followed Zeref's "will" till Natsu smacked him up lol.
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Exactly, they are at least present in their relationships unlike Jellal who is off doing who knows what. His plan of absolving himself of his guilt was to beat a guy (Zeref) who had nothing to do with him lol. His redemption arc is as much of a joke as his relationship with Erza.
Not if he was under ones else’s control
 

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Abusing a woman for ten years and then trying to sacrifice her bcs your "god" says told you so, isn't what I would define as a healthy relationship. Erza also has few screws loose in her head for easily forgiving him lol.
Abusing? They had a shonen anime battle with magic beams and swords, not like it was a one-sided beating unlike some ships. It's a common enemies-to-lovers tale that you can even see in kids' cartoons. Also Erza didn't easily forgive him, he had the most difficult redemption journey despite being the least at fault for "his" crimes.

Right? Like bruh......and then for the next 10 he's like "nah I can't be with you. Muh sins and stuff" lol
What should he have done? Shamelessly forgot his sins and accepted a relationship with Erza while still being a criminal? People would hate him even more... or maybe they wouldn't since most don't have a problem with Gajeel manhandling Levy not much time after he put her in a coma lol. Erza understood and agreed with that decision, not like she's still chasing him after being rejected unlike some FT girls.

At least Natsu is dense and Gray can admit his feelings and act jealous. Jellal just runs away like a loser and makes no moves. It's just beating a dead horse at this point.
"Acting jealous" and possessive is not a good thing. I'm glad Jellal respects Erza enough to not do that. Also Gray has no right to act that way when he's the one who pushes Juvia away in the first place. He doesn't even have any baggage or any reason to reject her in the first place lol. Jellal "runs away" because he's literally a fugitive.

Everything he did was of his own free will. Brainwashing doesn't excuse his action at all and his brainwashing was a joke. He got played by an illusion and followed Zeref's "will" till Natsu smacked him up lol.
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Exactly, they are at least present in their relationships unlike Jellal who is off doing who knows what. His plan of absolving himself of his guilt was to beat a guy (Zeref) who had nothing to do with him lol. His redemption arc is as much of a joke as his relationship with Erza.
Nope, Jellal was brainwashed it was stated literally 4 times. Mashima could not have been any more clear with that. The fact you have to try so hard and deny facts speaks volumes that you just biased against it.
 

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He had free will. Ultear has no abilities that let her actually control anyone otherwise Hades or anyone in FT would be under her control. She "controlled" via telling him what to do through an illusion of Zeref, but Jellal was free to stop at anytime he wanted to which is why he did when Natsu smacked some sense into him. Jellal committed slavery, torture and murder of his own free will. Whispering in someone's ear what to do is not actively controlling them lol. Also Ultear wasn't going tell Milliana that Jellal committed everything under his own free will lmao. She felt bad bcs she was the reason Jellal went down that path, but she did not put a gun to his head or control him to do it.
 

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@jetblackwings Like I said, you have an unhealthy obsession with those two characters.
 

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Abusing? They had a shonen anime battle with magic beams and swords, not like it was a one-sided beating unlike some ships. It's a common enemies-to-lovers tale that you can even see in kids' cartoons. Also Erza didn't easily forgive him, he had the most difficult redemption journey despite being the least at fault for "his" crimes.



What should he have done? Shamelessly forgot his sins and accepted a relationship with Erza while still being a criminal? People would hate him even more... or maybe they wouldn't since most don't have a problem with Gajeel manhandling Levy not much time after he put her in a coma lol. Erza understood and agreed with that decision, not like she's still chasing him after being rejected unlike some FT girls.



"Acting jealous" and possessive is not a good thing. I'm glad Jellal respects Erza enough to not do that. Also Gray has no right to act that way when he's the one who pushes Juvia away in the first place. He doesn't even have any baggage or any reason to reject her in the first place lol. Jellal "runs away" because he's literally a fugitive.



Nope, Jellal was brainwashed it was stated literally 4 times. Mashima could not have been any more clear with that. The fact you have to try so hard and deny facts speaks volumes that you just biased against it.
She did. She forgave him as soon as he came back. He actually tormented her emotionally for several years by holding her friends hostage and making them think they abandon them. He then tried to kill her and to do that he toyed with her feelings to grant an opening. He abused and tormented Erza for ten years.

He had his own free will. Brainwashing to the extent he went was not something that would bind him to Ultear's will which was shown when he switched side easily after Natsu smacked him up. He saw a fake illusion and was ride or die Zeref cultist. Every act he committed was of his own free will. Were they his own plans, no, but he still committed the acts which why he went on a redemption path in the first place. All I hear are excuses for the crimes he has committed from Jellal fans.
 

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Don't understand what's the problem with Jellal atoning for his sins and trying to stop evil? Even though he wasn't in the right state of mind due to outside influence, it's understandable why he would be incredibly hesitant to seek out Erza after what he did and try to redeem himself.

His current relationship with Erza has vastly improved and it's better then most in FT in terms of development tbh.
 

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Don't understand what's the problem with Jellal atoning for his sins and trying to stop evil?
Funniest part of that is that he didn't even complete his mission......didn't even get close lol.
 
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He had free will. Ultear has no abilities that let her actually control anyone otherwise Hades or anyone in FT would be under her control. She "controlled" via telling him what to do through an illusion of Zeref, but Jellal was free to stop at anytime he wanted to which is why he did when Natsu smacked some sense into him. Jellal committed slavery, torture and murder of his own free will. Whispering in someone's ear what to do is not actively controlling them lol. Also Ultear wasn't going tell Milliana that Jellal committed everything under his own free will lmao. She felt bad bcs she was the reason Jellal went down that path, but she did not put a gun to his head or control him to do it.
He did all those things because his personality changed when Ultear started controlling him
 

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Funniest part of that is that he didn't even complete his mission......didn't even get close lol.
At least he tried which counts and as a bonus helped in making past villains into better people.
 

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At least he tried which counts and as a bonus helped in making past villains into better people.
In what way did he help in directly beating Zeref?
 
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His mission was to bring down Zeref. You said he tried and I'm asking you in how he tried? He couldn't even get to him.
 
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