Games Mafia Game 90: Guilty Gear -Strive- END GAME

[Copy Panda]

Nah, that would have prevented him from being protected and him using his power. He would be alive but we'd have no spy information. No, what should have happened is that Van should have sacrificed himself like he said he would

 

[Asako]

If he used his insta power it would have been P1. It's kind of ridiculous that not only did Van not use insta, but the mafia actually targeted Gry to kill him. If Van isn't lying, they must have used insta and won the coinflip, which is rather unnecessary

The probably is could mafia really risk using inst when gry could use psych ?
Argh i don't know anymore

 

[Marmalade]

I suppose that’s a risk they might have been willing to take.

Unless they want us to think that is what happened, and Van just straight up killed Gry

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Perhaps that’s a reach though, idk

 

[Asako]

Nah, that would have prevented him from being protected and him using his power. He would be alive but we'd have no spy information. No, what should have happened is that Van should have sacrificed himself like he said he would

Van said he use cancel so i assume he go with psych
Tho i assume the mechanic meant he can't use it the next night not the night he use psych
I guess form how you say it it's not

 

[Erinyes]

oh well, true i know that tbut that doesnt change anything, even p2 it should have been higher than killing, and van should have used insta for obvious reasons. Actually mafia shouldnt even have targetted gry knowing that he would be protected. so if they risked wasting a kill on a supposedly protected player is bc they knew they could kill him.

-either van said the truth an protected gry, but get his role stolen or get blocked or wtv.
- or hes not bg.
- cointoss is very unlikely, too risky for mafia., but could be that.

 

[Asako]

Honestly the reason I'm letting van go is considering i distrust desin more and van been pushing on him

What do you think guys about desin ?

 

[Juviii]

If he used his insta power it would have been P1. It's kind of ridiculous that not only did Van not use insta, but the mafia actually targeted Gry to kill him. If Van isn't lying, they must have used insta and won the coinflip, which is rather unnecessary

That's true. It was avoidable. What do you think of his reasoning for not targetting Farf?

Desin still didn't answer my question either.

Erin, I think mechanics is more likely than a blocker considering no one mentioned being blocked before but not impossible.

 

[Erinyes]

What do you think guys about desin ?

My thoughts in 2 words for now :

Votekill desin

might consider changing it depending on new upcoming infos, but for now i think its the safest course.

 

[Marmalade]

Mhmm, not really sure hoe I feel about Desin, it seems that his claim fits with Demon’s claim, but it’s also very convenient.
The day dd got lynched is also a thing... someone probably got saved and it’s not me.
This is one of those situations in which we can say mafia might be playing us, but I don’t think that is the case here.
I want to believe him, but I dont know. Something feels off about it.

What about yourself Asa?

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Jeeze, my English is on point today Love typing with my phone

 

[Erinyes]

Erin, I think mechanics is more likely than a blocker considering no one mentioned being blocked before but not impossible.

oh its an option, but actually i was thinking more of his role being stolen by a potential mafia pirate, its an option i dont exclude, if theres 1, noble, 1 apprentice in each party, why not the same for pirates ? maybe just a suggestion. but yeah mechanisms are the most plausible reason, still mafia shouldnt have targetted him at all.

 

[Asako]

Already votekilled him marma, as i said
I don't really believe there investigator + how the end of D2 went

 

[SonOfDaws]

Day 4

Votes
( 8 / 8 )​

Spoiler: The Backyard

MarmaladeSky >>> x0 ( )

Lady Pompom >>> x0 ( )

MarmaladeSky >>> x0 ( )

Asako >>> x0 ( )

Juviii >>> x0 ( )

Erinyes >>> x0 ( )

Copy Panda >>> x0 ( )

Desin24 >>> x7 ( Asako [ #630 ] , Erinyes [ #648 ] , Lady Pompom [ #665 ] , MarmaladeSky [ #666 ] , Juviii [ #667 ] , Copy Panda [ #674 ] , Vandred [ #676 ] )

Vandred >>> x1 ( Desin24 [ #660 ] )

Countdown​

 

[Lady pompom]

I'd rather have waited until tomorrow but welp, not like it would change too much. I'm Bodyguard, N2 target was Pom.

Juviii -> Gry -> Gry.

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While we're on that topic, would you mind sharing your own, Erin?

Vandred why are you lying about your targets? You said before I was target for N2, now it’s Gry, which one was it?

I had a headache this whole day, a bit tired to play, but this was a big inconsistency from your part, rival.

 

[Marmalade]

Very interesting indeed. I checked, Pom is right, he did say that (post #590).
(Now do take care of yourself pomchan, we want you healthy and happy. Hope you feel better soon)

 

[Vandred]

Why do you guys only check what you want out of the stuff I write

I already explained why I said I targeted Pom in the "wall", and yesterday I'd already specified that I had used Cancel N2, so I started last night at 45%. I couldn't have used anything but Cancel again.

That means my action was P2, and as the opening post says, if a killer uses Insta their action becomes P2 and wins any flips. Otherwise it could have been Mafia Pirate or Escort or whatever, but that's a very reasonable explanation for why Gry died anyway, considering Demon must have been Cancel-killing N1 and N2, which means the Mafia Noble could have easily let their Tension accumulate.

So let's not make their work for them and let's get the obvious mafia first at least, please.

 

[Marmalade]

I agree with you that there are ways (that make sense) to explain what happened last night, if you really did bg Gry.

Don’t think it hurts to clear the inconsistency regarding your target n2 up though. I’ve been going through your posts (from when you said you targetted Pom to right now), and I can’t find your explanation about this. Perhaps I’m just blind though.

 

[Copy Panda]

Sorry I've had a headache for a while now, it's really bothersome.

Van is lying I'm pretty sure, suddenly he's pumping out walls to explain why he's tactically lying and trying to confuse people while really he's just being vague I think. Pomcha caught him in the middle of a lie. Van was on Gry duty but he still dead. Possibly last two mafo are Desu and Vindo

 

[Erinyes]

So let's not make their work for them and let's get the obvious mafia first at least, please.

Yeah lets keep the less obvious for later

Joke aside, who are your most suspicious players right now, id love to hear your opinion abt Des, Marm, especially.

What are the course of actions you suggest ? who do you think is noble ? do you think mafia has a det, if so who might it be ? What do you think happened to you on N3, if you couldnt protect gry ?

 

[Marmalade]

Why does everyone has a headache today Hydrate! Painkillers! Sleep! And feel better, thank you

 

[desin24]

Because it should? Especially if you claim your reveal is on D4 like DD said, not D7 or something meme like that. There's no way Demon had put himself under the spotlight that blatantly if he didn't need to save a teammate, even the Mafia Noble was brought along. If Demon thought of a Spy, why would he kill on N2? Especially if his good unlock was Janitor, which supposedly had you as a counter.

If you were town, none of the mafia should have any reason to avoid your lynch. "What, there's no Janitor kill, I don't buy it, die pls" and you're done, 299 IQ mafia move. Much easier than having to justify lynching an IC leading to an inevitable mafia lynch like Demon's was.

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I wasn't on when they asked me, and the day ended before I got back.

Demon's vote was on me, he could have just kept it and keep his identity hidden once my role went public. Can't be sure what the reasoning was but I guess they wanted to keep a lynching target available for the next day. I probably wasn't a plan from the getgo since it all happened seconds before day end and could have failed really miserably.

Sorry if I sound frustrated but I do not see what else I could have done better? Not change to DD once it was either him or me? Lie about my role again? I understand the suspicion but what else can I do with this useless role. I could have been more active. That is true and I'm sorry. Certainly not too good at time management but I try hanging on and at least providing some conjecture about possible scenarios.

Honestly the reason I'm letting van go is considering i distrust desin more and van been pushing on him

What do you think guys about desin ?

Because Demon was pushing for my lynch and turned out townie right?



As for suspects there are 3 big ones with Vandred, Asako and Marmalade

I just don't see the constellation where a protective role like BG continues to fail with protection again and again where the claim is legit. We probably had one Det, one Doc, one Spy and the mechanic as a replacement for prostitute. Masons are also in our favor but it keeps the balance somewhat with the Noble Supermason while Mafia also have a mason.

Votekill Vandred

As for Marmalade since someone asked before she might be lover/traitor who has not been recruited yet but I think lover is more likely. The last second vote on DD might have been to decide whether to help mafia out for her lover's sake or not.

With Asako we have the classic "failed to perform" action story that is also a very typical mafia play but obviously can just happen to unlucky players. She seemed rather enthusiastic in choices that are pro-town and choosing Gry as a target kinda strengthens that thought in me. Juvii is in a similar position with the apprentice claim that seemingly worked but is a role that can't really be confirmed.

Also with Erin I have no clue what's up and why she doesn't want to disclose? I'm honestly also quite tired so can't put too much brain energy into it.

Just wanted to sum up my thoughts in case someone minds. Not sure I'll be around for game end since it's late and I'm honestly just tired. In any case, good luck.