Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[KidaShikage]

Random question, but: wasn't there a manga/one-shot from WSN where there were two brothers/samurais, in which one of them died and the other went on to train and avenge him or something like that in the city nearby. Something like that. Kind of KnY-like. From some years ago.

Maybe Yoakemono.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

I'm probably the only one but I had a stupid grin on my face when they show off Jujutsu Kaisen, Black Clover, Demon Slayer, My Hero Academia and Chainsaw Man together at the start of the video

 

[Newkerzy]

I think you should be happier that Sakamoto got a good shot in the video. That’s more than an encouraging sign for the series.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

I think you should be happier that Sakamoto got a good shot in the video. That’s more than an encouraging sign for the series.

That too. It surprised me for sure

 

[Mammo]

Shoseki - 04/02

01. Boku no Hero Academia #30
03. Dr. Stone #20
05. Black Clover #28
13. Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken Shinsou Ayarokuban #16
14. Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken Shinsou Ayarokuban #17
38. Sakamoto Days #01
49. Boku to Roboco #03
85. Agravity Boys #05
89. Shakunetsu no Niraikanai #03
97. Build King #01
218. Shinrin Ouja Mori King #04

DQ new editions are doing well, Toei is doing a great job with the anime
Avan reprints are doing well
Beet production is going smoothly
Fuuto Tantei is getting an anime

everything is going Riku Sanjou's way, and I couldn't be happier

Random question, but: wasn't there a manga/one-shot from WSN where there were two brothers/samurais, in which one of them died and the other went on to train and avenge him or something like that in the city nearby. Something like that. Kind of KnY-like. From some years ago.

Yoakemono?
iirc the mcs weren't brothers tho

 

[Ike79]

Out of nowhere, Cop & Dolphin is getting a vomic. In case we needed any more confirmation that it's not ending next week.

As an aside, the youtube channel is rebranding their videos with that red "Jump official" banner on the right hand side. They have retroactively changed the thumbnails for the Sakamoto Days, Ayakashi and Blue Box vomics (as well as the Gotoge and Fujimoto oneshots). Probably because they are some of their best performing.

 

[Discomusic]

Out of nowhere, Cop & Dolphin is getting a vomic. In case we needed any more confirmation that it's not ending next week.

As an aside, the youtube channel is rebranding their videos with that red "Jump official" banner on the right hand side. They have retroactively changed the thumbnails for the Sakamoto Days, Ayakashi and Blue Box vomics (as well as the Gotoge and Fujimoto oneshots). Probably because they are some of their best performing.

Finally!! I waited for any kind of promotion for so long!

 

[Stivie]

Finally!! I waited for any kind of promotion for so long!

came late, even canceled manga has vomic

 

[SharkBait]

came late, even canceled manga has vomic

I dont think theyd get one the week before the manga would end though.

 

[Discomusic]

Yeah, I know that if it won't be axed this time, it will be the next. Still, I'm happy that the magazine gave it at least a little consideration.

 

[Stivie]

I dont think theyd get one the week before the manga would end though.

C&D is selling less than agravity boys, results worth canceling: Internal popularity doesn't seem to make up for survival.

 

[SharkBait]

C&D is selling less than agravity boys, results worth canceling: Internal popularity doesn't seem to make up for survival. The truth is that the series only saved because editors thought it best to cancel a newbie who had better sales.

Some series take a little time to grow. Both promotions should really help cop & dolphin sales increase.

Phantom Seer probably had internal issues that led to it ending. Perhaps the writer had writers block and didnt know where to go next so they ended the series.

 

[Mammo]

I have a theory about their vomics choices

I think they're just trying to grow on Youtube and make it a serious platform for them to make money, like WWE is doing

because seems to me like they're just putting a lot of stuff on the channel without any meaning

publishing GFC loser instead on the winner
putting out a vomic for a oneshot from a guy that has an ongoing series in Weekly Shonen Champion
Matsui, Shinohara and ITC author returned without a vomic from their works getting published before that, instead we got oneshots from HQ, Saiki, Alice and Tayio authors

it seem they just want content
any content

Internal popularity doesn't seem to make up for survival. The truth is that the series only saved because editors thought it best to cancel a newbie who had better sales.

Phantom Seer probably had internal issues that led to it ending. Perhaps the writer had writers block and didnt know where to go next so they ended the series.

wow 3 conspiracy theories back to back
at least mine isn't about PS

slow news day

 

[Stivie]

Some series take a little time to grow. Both promotions should really help cop & dolphin sales increase.

Phantom Seer probably had internal issues that led to it ending. Perhaps the writer had writers block and didnt know where to go next so they ended the series.

You want to give C&D more opportunities just because you like manga.

C&D is already in the third volume and there was no improvement that you defend so much. How much longer are we going to have to wait for this manga improvement?

PS could at least have survived until June, so it could have been canceled with some dignity.

 

[SharkBait]

You want to give C&D more opportunities just because you like manga.

C&D is already in the third volume and there was no improvement that you defend so much. How much longer are we going to have to wait for this manga improvement?

PS could at least have survived until June, so it could have been canceled with some dignity.

Letting it reach its first anniversary should be enough time. Give it a color page or cover for reaching that milestone. Afterwards, if there's no improvement, then end it.

Phantom Seer did end with dignity. The writer told a fully intact story without rushing it. I think that is respectful and dignified.

 

[Stivie]

Letting it reach its first anniversary should be enough time. Give it a color page or cover for reaching that milestone. Afterwards, if there's no improvement, then end it.

Phantom Seer did end with dignity. The writer told a fully intact story without rushing it. I think that is respectful and dignified.

No, Phantom seer is going to leave a lot of loose ends. it is not something worthy.

And C&D sells less than Hungry marie, which was canceled with 32 chapters. C&D had time to improve more than anyone.

If you want to give C&D a year to improve, then you will also give that period to Build king, ItellC and Nine dragons.

 

[Mammo]

>even more PS seething
>even more anger about an unrelated series that will get axed too sooner or later

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[Stivie]

>even more PS seething
>even more anger about an unrelated series that will get axed too sooner or later

3 Ways to Cope with Loss and Pain - wikiHow

When you lose someone or something very precious to you, the grief can be intense. Pain, sad memories, and unanswered questions can haunt you. You may even feel that you'll never be the same - that you'll never laugh or be whole again....

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Explain that to me?

 

[Mammo]

seem pretty self-explanatory

 

[Felcis]

Obviously Phantom Seer was canceled after the duo had an affair with the Chief Editor's wife. Come on, the signs are all over the place.
But in all srsness, internal strife or health problems are pretty likely. It was a weird situation to end a successful series with potential to grow after all.

Also, RIP Build King, you won't be missed. Same for CaD later, when it finally gets yeeted.
I honestly think that Shimabukuro should consider moving into seinen mags that primarily cater to an older, ideally nostalgic audience like Grand Jump. I know that the man had two hits but the first one was ages ago and even Toriko is 5~ years and lost a lot of steam over time. Stubbornly clinging to early 90s tropes and artstyle just won't cut it in the modern WSJ competition.

Super happy if unsurprised with Sakamoto doing well.
I do fear for the survival of the excellent Nine Dragons Ball Parade. Easily the best new sports manga in years and somehow got me interested in Baseball, but the WSJ lineup looks very packed now, with Elusive Samurai being a surefire success, Witch Watch (despite being boring as drying paint) being popular in Japan and at least one of the newcomers having a lot of preemptive hype. Not much safety-fodder anymore.
Hopefully NDBP's writing quality translates into popularity and also gets the staff on its side, considering the mag needs a decent sports series again.