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When series will end for me:

1 one piece- 150 volumes
2 jujutsu kaisen -28 volumes
3 Mashle - 20 volumes
4 Uu- 35 volumes
5 Yoakura Faimily - 30 volumes
6 Dr. Stone 30 volumes
7 Black clover 45/50 volumes
8 My hero academia 40 volumes
9 Roboco 12-15 volumes
10 Ayakashi triangle 20-24 volumes
11 witch watch 25-30 volpruediumes
12 Sakamoto days up to 20-25? But it's a difficult prediction
13 magu chan - 25+ volumes
14 HSF 10-15 volumes
15 red hood- 3 volumes
16 ppppp - 2 volumes
17 - Blue box - 22 volumes
18 elusive - 26 volumes
 

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Since no one posted, the Witch Watch color page:


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It's a exhibit in Jimbocho, 3rd picture is Gondaira signing it, glad to see finally something bigger for the series, Gondaira must be really happy.
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Monthly Shoseki Top 500 (August)

1. My Hero Academia #31
2. Dr. Stone #22
31. Mashle #7 (171,775)
48. The Elusive Samurai #2 (91,450)
58. Blue Box #1 (74,800)
62. Ayakashi Triangle #5 (71,200)
500. Magu-chan: God of Destruction #5 (10,600)
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For anyone interested, the monthly numbers for all 5 Ayakashi Triangle and Magu-chan volumes:

Ayakashi Triangle #1 (78,090)
Ayakashi Triangle #2 (67,231)
Ayakashi Triangle #3 (61,534)
Ayakashi Triangle #4 (68,160)
Ayakashi Triangle #5 (71,200)

Magu-chan: God of Destruction #1 (12,375)
Magu-chan: God of Destruction #2 (Didn't Charted)
Magu-chan: God of Destruction #3 (Didn't Charted)
Magu-chan: God of Destruction #4 (10,386)
Magu-chan: God of Destruction #5 (10,600)



Despite not exactly growing in sales, at least both series have a loyal fanbase so far, and a bit of context, the months for Magu-chan #2 and #3 had a higher cut (13k and 12k), this is why they didn't charted.
What fanbase are you talking about?

Ayakashi triangle seems very restricted to the circle of Yabuki fans and doesn't seem to betray new readers and Magu chan is even worse.
I would believe in a fanbase if there were increased sales on these manga.
 

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What fanbase are you talking about?

Ayakashi triangle seems very restricted to the circle of Yabuki fans and doesn't seem to betray new readers and Magu chan is even worse.
I would believe in a fanbase if there were increased sales on these manga.
A fanbase is still a fanbase even if it is not increasing.
 

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When series will end for me:

1 one piece- 150 volumes
2 jujutsu kaisen -28 volumes
3 Mashle - 20 volumes
4 Uu- 35 volumes
5 Yoakura Faimily - 30 volumes
6 Dr. Stone 30 volumes
7 Black clover 45/50 volumes
8 My hero academia 40 volumes
9 Roboco 12-15 volumes
10 Ayakashi triangle 20-24 volumes
11 witch watch 25-30 volpruediumes
12 Sakamoto days up to 20-25? But it's a difficult prediction
13 magu chan - 25+ volumes
14 HSF 10-15 volumes
15 red hood- 3 volumes
16 ppppp - 2 volumes
17 - Blue box - 22 volumes
18 elusive - 26 volumes
Black Clover 50 volumes? You think it will be axed? Its planned for longer than that


Nah and OP 150 is a stretch. There isn't THAT much story left
 

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What fanbase are you talking about?

Ayakashi triangle seems very restricted to the circle of Yabuki fans and doesn't seem to betray new readers and Magu chan is even worse.
I would believe in a fanbase if there were increased sales on these manga.
But it has better fanbases than others. Ayakashi triangle in 5 volumes was to have surpassed 100K, was won by Blue box.
 

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Dr. Stone - 2022: As I said in my predictions topics, this will be the year where it will be setting up for the endgame. What remains here is to solve the remaining misteries and then move to the stage of the final mission. Our voyage will start between 2021 and 2022, and by the end of that year the plot will be completely resolved.
Jujutsu Kaisen - 2022: Shueisha has just discovered their new cash cow and they want to milk it as much as possible, but at the pace the event are occurring I don't imagine it being a long-runner, even if I am not really sure what should be the ending purpose. It can stretch for longer if it turns out there is a greater scope villain still unreveiled.
Black Clover - 2023: This is the kind of series that can add new arcs whenever it wants because the world is vast and unexplored in some parts. That being said, it's validity as a franchise is starting to fade and the magazine may not want it for much longer. It may also play the timeskip card.
My Hero Academia - 2023: Despite all the discussion, I don't see it being completely resolved for a while. There are some plot threads still left hanging and the MC/Main Villain dynamic has just started to get interesting. 3 years is more or less 150 chapters, enough to say it is building towards an ending and is also having no hurry with resolving everything left.
One Piece - 2024: I want to believe Oda saying it needs 5 more years, even if I know that I shouldn't. 2021 is spent on concluding the Wano Arc, and then the big final arc will begin, and with all the characters and the revelations involved will be one hell of a long arc, and also hopefully a memorable one.

As an useless and unreliable bonus, I imagine when the other current series would end, with the assumption that they all get a full run unless the axe is now obvious. Yes, even those that are 5-6 chapters in, I try to guess how the authors imagine an eventual full run. I leave them here without comments:
Mission: family Yozakura - 2021
Agravity Boys - 2021
Undead Unluck - 2024
Mashle - 2023
Moriking - Next week lol
Ayakashi Triangle - 2023
Magu-chan - 2022
Hard-boiled Cop and Dolphin - 2023
Me & Roboco - 2025
Phantom Seer - 2023
Highschool Family - 2022
Our Blood Oath - 2023
Build King - 2026
Sakamoto Days - 2024

Final comment: I would really love an interview from the author of Time Paradox describing how he imagined the series had it not been axed, what directions he wanted to take and for how long its hypotethical run would have lasted.
These were my predictions from earlier this year. Some haven't aged well. Among the series that are still surviving, these are the predictions that I update:
One Piece - 2025
Jujutsu Kaisen - 2023
Mission: Yozakura Family - 2022

And these are the predictions for the series that debuted after that. Like last time, I try to predict what the author has in mind should the series get a full run, unless the axe is now obvious:
The Elusive Samurai - 2024
Witch Watch - 2026
Blue Box - 2023
Candy Flurry - Today lol (expected full run: 2025)
Red Hood - 2025
Neru - 2024
PPPPPP - too early to predict

The final comment from last time still stands.
 
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I like the idea of sharing how much you think each manga will last, but some of you guys's picks are just too arbitrary, no offense.

Of the current line-up, I have a few thoughts on the subject. I think Oda wants to end One Piece around 120-122 Volumes, to have it neatly divided before and after the Timeskip. At the current pace, he might even achieve it around 2027, ending it on the year of its 30th Anniversary.

Everyone is supposing Blue Box will be a short series, because Romance doesn't last much more than 20 Volumes on the Magazine and this one has a pretty decent pace if compared to Jump's biggest Romances. But this will only be the case if Blue Box remains a romance series with sport as part of its lore - which mind you I think it's the path that it will most probably take. But it can also go into a more sports-focused focus for some arcs, going in detail over the tournaments and games and all that, like Baby Steps but with more romance. If it does that route, then who knows how much it will last.
(Also: Is it just me or Blue Box's art reminds me of Baby Steps? And the overall feeling of the Manga as well, really. As Miura imigrated from Magazine I wonder if she was an assistant for the Manga or anything like that.)

High School Family will not reach the double digits. Magu-Chan may or may not hit the double digits, but definitively won't live much once reaches it. Undead Unluck, Mashle, Ayakashi Triangle and Yozakura will end around the 10-19 Volumes mark. My Hero Academia and Black Clover will end a little bit before and a little bit after their tenth anniversary, respectively. No opinions on the rest.
 

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It’s hard to guess when Black Clover could end. It’s written in such a way that it reminds me of DBZ in that it can always come up with another villain to fight. Plus it has a nice world layout and how they’ve moved from elves to devils they still have tons of room for a VARIETY of different species (idk the word)
 

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I like the idea of sharing how much you think each manga will last, but some of you guys's picks are just too arbitrary, no offense.

Of the current line-up, I have a few thoughts on the subject. I think Oda wants to end One Piece around 120-122 Volumes, to have it neatly divided before and after the Timeskip. At the current pace, he might even achieve it around 2027, ending it on the year of its 30th Anniversary.

Everyone is supposing Blue Box will be a short series, because Romance doesn't last much more than 20 Volumes on the Magazine and this one has a pretty decent pace if compared to Jump's biggest Romances. But this will only be the case if Blue Box remains a romance series with sport as part of its lore - which mind you I think it's the path that it will most probably take. But it can also go into a more sports-focused focus for some arcs, going in detail over the tournaments and games and all that, like Baby Steps but with more romance. If it does that route, then who knows how much it will last.
(Also: Is it just me or Blue Box's art reminds me of Baby Steps? And the overall feeling of the Manga as well, really. As Miura imigrated from Magazine I wonder if she was an assistant for the Manga or anything like that.)

High School Family will not reach the double digits. Magu-Chan may or may not hit the double digits, but definitively won't live much once reaches it. Undead Unluck, Mashle, Ayakashi Triangle and Yozakura will end around the 10-19 Volumes mark. My Hero Academia and Black Clover will end a little bit before and a little bit after their tenth anniversary, respectively. No opinions on the rest.
I feel like Blue Box could go up to 20-ish volumes if it expands on its sports aspect. (We don’t even know what position Chinatsu plays at yet!)

Funny thing, I was actually rooting for the Japanese Women’s Basketball team back during The Olympics to take home the Gold. I don’t think anyone expected them to get that far, going all the way up against the U.S. in the Finals. Had they won then, I think it would have been a watershed moment for the sports in Japan and Jump would likely push Miura to expand on Chinatsu’s prep career to capitalize on the moment. I could see her basing Chinatsu on Rui Machida, Japan’s speedy PG.
 

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What fanbase are you talking about?

Ayakashi triangle seems very restricted to the circle of Yabuki fans and doesn't seem to betray new readers and Magu chan is even worse.
I would believe in a fanbase if there were increased sales on these manga.
"Ayakashi triangle seems very restricted to the circle of Yabuki fans and doesn't seem to betray new readers"

This is, by definition, still a fanbase.

Which is why the post you're quoting says "Despite not exactly growing in sales, at least both series have a loyal fanbase so far".
 

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"Ayakashi triangle seems very restricted to the circle of Yabuki fans and doesn't seem to betray new readers"

This is, by definition, still a fanbase.

Which is why the post you're quoting says "Despite not exactly growing in sales, at least both series have a loyal fanbase so far".
And do you think this is good?

because until now these manga are so frozen and have no chance of growing.

even if some of them win anime, it's not 100% sure of success.
 

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The next chapters are scheduled to come out on the 17th 🤔
 

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Yeah, Weekly Shonen Jump issue #42 will be on sale next Saturday :)

So the color page for Triangle was for the poll. Well now it seems that it's not getting a cover anytime soon since it's best chance at getting one flew away. For comparison, Yuragi's cover for ch 69 was for it's first poll.
For Roboco, color pages are for the typical 大人気 and reprints(?), it seems that it's getting a special collaboration cake(?), which will be avalible soon.
Sakamoto color pages are for Vol 3 release.
 

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  • One Piece - 125 volumes
  • My Hero Academia - 43 volumes
  • JJK - 24 Volumes
  • Black Clover- 50 - 55 volumes
  • Dr.STONE - 28 volumes
  • Mission: Yozakura Family - 23 volumes
  • Undead Unluck - 20 volumes
  • MASHLE - ~2022 - 18 Volumes
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It’s hard to guess when Black Clover could end. It’s written in such a way that it reminds me of DBZ in that it can always come up with another villain to fight. Plus it has a nice world layout and how they’ve moved from elves to devils they still have tons of room for a VARIETY of different species (idk the word)
I agree and Tabata already added new species like dwarfs and we know they are other countries outside of the 4 that we know so there's a lot of ways he can expand the story and probably he will.
 

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I love how people believe Black Clover will go beyond 40 volumes.

It is already a lot if it reaches 35 .....


  • Black Clover- 50 - 55 volumes
 

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Undead was pretty good this week, very straightforward stuff but still entertaining

Mashle was good, a bit of a exposition dump, and kinda underwhelmed the fight didn't continue, but it sets up for some interesting stuff later

Ayakashi was good, solid action, but not a lot to comment on

Magu was the usual Magu, though I did enjoy this one a bit more than the past few weeks. I would say that, except I didn't like the ending at all and it really soured a chapter that felt like a step above the usual chapter

Roboco was decent, sweet message but the gags didn't do much

HSF was also decent, gags were funny but not the series best

Sakamoto was great, really building interest for this arc

Elusive was pretty good, solid action and nice ending, but felt resolved kinda fast

Witch was great, heartwarming stuff, and I'm glad to see Keigo stick around

Blue Box was great, loved the sports focus as well as Chinatsu getting focus

So Candy ends, to no surprise. I wouldn't call it bad, like i tell c or Blood Oath, moreso just very forgettable, which is unfortunate because it has a interesting premise. The art improved as it went on, and it started to find some footing with it's comedy, but it just never really stood out too much. My guess is the school setting+ recette organization stuff ended up railroading it into a pretty generic story line. Maybe if it eschewed the recette stuff entirely and had Tsumugi get into the criminal candy underworld it could've been more interesting, but this is just speculation. Looking forward to the duo's next series, as they do have potential.

Red Hood was good, some solid stuff, though I'd prefer more action and less explaining

Neru was good, the female character is growing on me

And as for speculation on when series are ending:
One Piece: 2025 at the absolute earliest, depending on breaks possibly a few years longer. 120 volumes is a vey safe bet so that at the minimum
MHA: Late 2023- Very obviously approaching the end, my guess is it'll end around 400 chapters
BC: Hardest one to pin down as story could go on as long or as short as Tabata wants, so it's likely dependent on if it can maintain popularity. I'd say 2024 at the earliest, the writing will be on the wall by the time it comes to end
Dr Stone- 2022, very little doubt about that between the story progression and the interview from a few years ago
JJK- 2023. Unless Akutami takes more extended breaks, this is pretty likely based on the interview from earlier this year
Yozakura- Idk I dropped this one so I'm no expert on where it's going. Could be as soon as 2022, or as late as 2024
Undead- 2022. Moving pretty quickly, theoretically close to endgame and sales are pretty stagnant, but I could see it maybe going a bit more
Mashle- 2023, based off the recent volume comment about being 1/2, should end pretty cleanly in 2023 unless things end up taking longer
Ayakashi- 2022, maybe 2023. Current plot progression would make me think it's nearing the end but it could stretch itself out with episodic stuff
Magu- 2022, it can only manage to survive so long off of bigger flops and small serialization rounds with it's sales
Roboco- Late 2022 or early 2023. Hard to predict, not super high on the list of how safe series are, but if Magu and HSF can manage to last this long then Roboco will probably go a bit longer than them
HSF- Early 2022, genuinely amazed this managed to last even a year, probably the first gag to go once we get a larger batch
Sakamoto- 2024 at the earliest, still too early to make hard predictions, but 150-200 chapters minimum feels safe
Elusive- 2024, also difficult to predict, but based on the length of Neuro and AssClass I doubt it'll go far beyond 200 chapters
Witch- 2024 minimum, another hard one to predict, Astra was a short series but Sket Dance got close to 300 chapters, and Witch Watch feels much closer to Sket, so I'd say at least 200 chapters
Blue Box- Too early to call, but unless it really elongates itself with tournaments or other girls I don't think it'll break 200 chapters, so 2023-2024
Red Hood- 2021 or 2022, whenever the next round is most likely
Neru- 2021 or 2022, same as Red Hood
Of course this all depends on how many series they serialize in the first place, we could get a big year like 2020 or a smaller year like the current year
 

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I love how people believe Black Clover will go beyond 40 volumes.

It is already a lot if it reaches 35 .....




Why is it a lot? Its normal for a long running shonen series to have that many volumes.
 

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BLack Clover has a totally available world to explore, infinite demons below, Asta's demon rise to fame, Asta and Yuno's rise to being Wizard King, and Yuno and his own kingdom stuff. it could easily get Naruto length and longer.

Shonen Jump also has nothing available that will be the new King of Shonen. With Jujutsu Kaisen on the path towards ending, Hero Aca, in its final act, Undead Unlock looking as if its stalled in growth, and Mashle seemingly at some halfway point, to lose a tentpole catering toward traditional conventional genre norms like BLack Clover would be devastating.
 
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