Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Magu Volume 6 cover and preview for the next issue:

Magu Color Page (Volume 6)
Undead Unluck Color Page (Volume 8 and popular)
Dandadan (Special Chapter, 32p)

Quite impressed with how Jump is pushing Magu-chan with a lot of color pages lately, more and more feels like that the "is probably going to be in danger next round" status quo is a thing from the past.

 

[Stivie]

Also, yozakura will likely be a season anime, different from Reborn. And depending on the amount of episodes they will want to close the season with a climax to pull into a second season if the anime is successful. So it is possible for them to skip chapter or change the order.

 

[Pietro]

Quite impressed with how Jump is pushing Magu-chan with a lot of color pages lately, more and more feels like that the "is probably going to be in danger next round" status quo is a thing from the past.

I love the volume 6 cover and yeahh it deserves the cp and an arise of popularity

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 22, 2021, Original Post Date: Sep 22, 2021 ---

Also, yozakura will likely be a season anime, different from Reborn. And depending on the amount of episodes they will want to close the season with a climax to pull into a second season if the anime is successful. So it is possible for them to skip chapter or change the order.

It will probably be more like My hero academia

 

[Wookitake]

Red Hood and Neru are getting U19'ed, right?

 

[Stivie]

Red Hood and Neru are getting U19'ed, right?

Will be cancelled.

And Red Hood's case is bizarre because it seems deliberate. As if the author himself wanted his manga to be cancelled.

If Red hood had followed the traditional cliché path it would have been different.

 

[KagamiKuroko]

Kimetsu Backlog is starting to creep up again, are you guys ready for another year of utter oricon domination once s2 starts?

 

[KiMiTo]

Well, 3 straight weeks of Neru and Red Hood at the bottom definitely doesn't look good.
It's almost certain that they'll be axed in order for the next round to start.
And it's a shame, especially for Neru, since I enjoy the weekly vibe it gives me when I'm reading it.

 

[Kushikime]

Will be cancelled.

And Red Hood's case is bizarre because it seems deliberate. As if the author himself wanted his manga to be cancelled.

If Red hood had followed the traditional cliché path it would have been different.

Yes I’m sure the author got the call about being Serialized in the biggest manga magazine on planet Earth and said “nah fuck them kids bout to write some dogshit on purpose - fuck Jump” ye totally

 

[tirakai]

I remember Red Hood ch 5 being the first chapter that I thought was a decent improvement so if it's still at the very bottom, I don't think there's really much hope any more.

The Golden Future curse strikes again, let's hope the author can do a Tabata/Gondaira and return with something better next time since they have some pretty good world building with the villains imo, but they really need to work on plot structure and making the good guys more compelling.

That said I wouldn't be surprised if both it and Neru make it into the mid-20s even if they remain at the very bottom the whole time, simply due to the big gaps between small batches Jump's had until recently (like the TSS, Beast Children, Double Taisei trio did). Maybe even one will survive a round if we get another batch of 2 next.

 

[Rukasu]

 

[Neala897]

Thats was good but completely unsurprising

 

[SharkBait]

but what about Movie 4 and HeroAca's take on FighterZ, we cant have DBZ and Demon Slayer get the best anime games, now that Naruto seems to be averse to a new hardcore fighter

 

[Stivie]

Yes I’m sure the author got the call about being Serialized in the biggest manga magazine on planet Earth and said “nah fuck them kids bout to write some dogshit on purpose - fuck Jump” ye totally

Conspiracy theory:

The guy is going to launch a new manga, then the editor-in-chief tells the author to make his story worse because of the internal reception of some manga that has bad sales.
And then it pays a fortune for this author to have his manga canceled and move on to another one.
Or you don't even need to pay a fortune, just promise that his next work will have support that the guy already embraces.
If you see, even in a bad situation, Red hood is always mentioned by another author, so to say that already has the support for his next work.

 

[KagamiKuroko]

Conspiracy theory:

The guy is going to launch a new manga, then the editor-in-chief tells the author to make his story worse because of the internal reception of some manga that has bad sales.
And then it pays a fortune for this author to have his manga canceled and move on to another one.
Or you don't even need to pay a fortune, just promise that his next work will have support that the guy already embraces.
If you see, even in a bad situation, Red hood is always mentioned by another author, so to say that already has the support for his next work.

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams

 

[galaxy-juice]

Yozakura cover has me excited. I want to re-read it now and see if I can predict what the first season will look like.

For the record, I think the more episodic chapters are the best in the series. Its action arcs don't really compare to the veterans in the magazine, but when the story slows down to hang out with the main cast is when I think it stands out the most.

But I can see why they would mix up the pacing to fit at least one serious arc towards the end of the season, so the transition into later chapters would be less jarring.

I know nothing has actually been announced, but if Yozakura does get an anime what studio would you guys want to see it from?

 

[Wookitake]

I remember Red Hood ch 5 being the first chapter that I thought was a decent improvement so if it's still at the very bottom, I don't think there's really much hope any more.

The Golden Future curse strikes again, let's hope the author can do a Tabata/Gondaira and return with something better next time since they have some pretty good world building with the villains imo, but they really need to work on plot structure and making the good guys more compelling.

That said I wouldn't be surprised if both it and Neru make it into the mid-20s even if they remain at the very bottom the whole time, simply due to the big gaps between small batches Jump's had until recently (like the TSS, Beast Children, Double Taisei trio did). Maybe even one will survive a round if we get another batch of 2 next.

It makes me think, once again, why would Shueisha start any series without a complete volume already written, drawn, and audience-tested. They could have known that Red Hood started slow, with sub-par paneling, confusing art style. Actually, they could have known it even with some 2/3 chapters. I don't know if the serialization process is still the same as depicted on Bakuman (or, how much they omitted from it), but it seems to me that their batting average could be higher.

 

[galaxy-juice]

It makes me think, once again, why would Shueisha start any series without a complete volume already written, drawn, and audience-tested. They could have known that Red Hood started slow, with sub-par paneling, confusing art style. Actually, they could have known it even with some 2/3 chapters. I don't know if the serialization process is still the same as depicted on Bakuman (or, how much they omitted from it), but it seems to me that their batting average could be higher.

3 chapters are already take up more than a month of drawing.
7+ chapters are asking way too much. Especially if you're implying that serialization isn't guaranteed or, at the very least, the entire set might have to be redrawn from scratch. The current model seems to be much better for artists.

It actually looks like RH's editor was the one who asked for the slow start, based on the "waste of page space" scene that occurs later.

 

[Stivie]

Yozakura cover has me excited. I want to re-read it now and see if I can predict what the first season will look like.

For the record, I think the more episodic chapters are the best in the series. Its action arcs don't really compare to the veterans in the magazine, but when the story slows down to hang out with the main cast is when I think it stands out the most.

But I can see why they would mix up the pacing to fit at least one serious arc towards the end of the season, so the transition into later chapters would be less jarring.

I know nothing has actually been announced, but if Yozakura does get an anime what studio would you guys want to see it from?

Yozakura's anime can have great action scenes, depending on the staff or director who will be working on the project.

kimetsu no yaiba is a good example, there are many scenes that are better in anime than in manga.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

 

[Midak]

It could related to the release of the next volume which should be in November if I remember correctly.

I am curious to see the Dandadan special chapter. Aside from some explicit scenes, it is a series that could fit really well in WSJ as well.
I remember they promoted Spy X Family like this a while back. I do not remember if there has been a special chapter for Kaiju 8 as well, which might be ok as it (in terms of content) for WSJ.