Discussion Tower of God Pairing Thread

[Vali x lucifer]

As i see it Maschenny has borderline no chances of getting in a relationship with Baam. They are basically polar opposites, she can't live without bloodshed, she is obsessed with the legends of the past and she can sacrifice people she considers worthless with no remorse whatsoever. Her only chance is making a killer impression doing something impressive like saving his friends or fighting someone from Lo Po Bia and acting like a total fangirl of Baam, ready to help him in his fight against Jahad. As Baam seems to respect/forgive people fighting for/with him at least.

 

[Yhamir ♤♧]

As i see it Maschenny has borderline no chances of getting in a relationship with Baam. They are basically polar opposites, she can't live without bloodshed, she is obsessed with the legends of the past and she can sacrifice people she considers worthless with no remorse whatsoever. Her only chance is making a killer impression doing something impressive like saving his friends or fighting someone from Lo Po Bia and acting like a total fangirl of Baam, ready to help him in his fight against Jahad. As Baam seems to respect/forgive people fighting for/with him at least.

I don't care if she doesn't stay with baam in the story I just want her to live and chill in a random floor and just spectating the chaos that baam will cause

 

[kkck]

Maschenny is the one holding Baam's master hostage. She's the sole reason that there is even a Nest Arc.

If Baam doesn't fight Maschenny, he simply wouldn't get the chance to rescue Jinsung.

Sure but... bam isn't yet aware of her. And even then, she technically saved bam by telling jinsung about this. This resulted in the delay of kallavan getting to the station. Which was sort of the point. Add to that, there definitely are bigger players than mascheny on their way. You have the lo po bia and their top lieutenants on the other side of the portal.. In the end mascheny is by all appearances here to give ye old hornet nest a good shake but not to actually take it down.

 

[Cinera]

I found this for you bud

Thanks man.

Add to that, there definitely are bigger players than mascheny on their way. You have the lo po bia and their top lieutenants on the other side of the portal..

What gives you the impression that the top lieutenants of the Lo Po Bia are bigger players than Maschenny? One of the top lieutenants of the Khuns is a servant of Maschenny.

Maschenny is a bigger player than everyone in the Lo Po Bia Family bar Lord Lo Po Bia himself.

In the end mascheny is by all appearances here to give ye old hornet nest a good shake but not to actually take it down.

Maschenny came to the Nest with the intention of seeing what Baam is truly capable of:

She's very excited at the prospect of Baam finally reaching her:

What do you think Maschenny is so eagerly anticipating?

At any rate, Maschenny isn't going to just hand over Jinsung even if Baam asks really nicely.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Really surprised that before today Maschenny had 0 votes in the pull considering the multiple choice.
I didn't select her because i would rank her behind Yuri and Enne but tied to Adori and since i couldn't pick both i only selected Yuri and Enne.
Also surprised Endorsi isn't winning by a good margin in the pool, even as the only one who kissed Baam and showed interest in dating him.

 

[Cinera]

Really surprised that before today Maschenny had 0 votes in the pull considering the multiple choice.
I didn't select her because i would rank her behind Yuri and Enne but tied to Adori and since i couldn't pick both i only selected Yuri and Enne.

Why tied with Adori? Adori is a Zahard fanatic, while Maschenny seems intent on destroying Daddy's kingdom.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Why tied with Adori? Adori is a Zahard fanatic, while Maschenny seems intent on destroying Daddy's kingdom.

Because she is canonly the most beautiful princess and the most loyal to Jahad, a development where she falls for Baam would be something for sure.

 

[kkck]

To me it seems like a stretch that mascheny is trying to destroy the kingdom. Her objective is war, the kingdom is at best collateral damage to her.

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Thanks man.



What gives you the impression that the top lieutenants of the Lo Po Bia are bigger players than Maschenny? One of the top lieutenants of the Khuns is a servant of Maschenny.

Maschenny is a bigger player than everyone in the Lo Po Bia Family bar Lord Lo Po Bia himself.



Maschenny came to the Nest with the intention of seeing what Baam is truly capable of:

She's very excited at the prospect of Baam finally reaching her:

What do you think Maschenny is so eagerly anticipating?

At any rate, Maschenny isn't going to just hand over Jinsung even if Baam asks really nicely.

Both mascheny and asencio are young-ish characters. It's a pretty big claim that mascheny would necessarily be the strongest non-eduan khun or stronger than descendants of family heads that could have been around since even the empire begun.

And... we have no idea of what mascheny is planning. And even then she has made the point that with the lo po bia potentially getting involved the situation is increasingly getting out of hand. Which might as well suit her. In the end it appears mascheny's endgame is war and chaos, whether she fights bam or not.

 

[Cinera]

To me it seems like a stretch that mascheny is trying to destroy the kingdom. Her objective is war, the kingdom is at best collateral damage to her.

No, her objective is not war. War is nothing but a means to an end for her.

She said that she has the same objective as Jinsung, but believes that more blood needs to be shed:

Maschenny's objective is whatever she believes Jinsung's objective to be.


As for where war fits into her plans, it's merely a means to an end.

She criticises Jinsung as foolish for believing that he can change the Tower by playing baby sitter and waiting for change to occur:

She declares that she'll make the Tower a bloody mess:

Then rejoices as the powers of the Tower are finally beginning to fight each other:

She describes Baam as one of the keys for the war:

War is not Maschenny's objective — it's a means to her objective — she's never said outright what her objective is, but every time Jinsung asked her, she told him that they had the same goals. I believe that they both seek revolution, she just doesn't believe one is possible without bloodshed.

 

[kkck]

No, her objective is not war. War is nothing but a means to an end for her.

She said that she has the same objective as Jinsung, but believes that more blood needs to be shed:

Maschenny's objective is whatever she believes Jinsung's objective to be.


As for where war fits into her plans, it's merely a means to an end.

She criticises Jinsung as foolish for believing that he can change the Tower by playing baby sitter and waiting for change to occur:

She declares that she'll make the Tower a bloody mess:

Then rejoices as the powers of the Tower are finally beginning to fight each other:

She describes Baam as one of the keys for the war:

War is not Maschenny's objective — it's a means to her objective — she's never said outright what her objective is, but every time Jinsung asked her, she told him that they had the same goals. I believe that they both seek revolution, she just doesn't believe one is possible without bloodshed.

We don't know what mascheny was talking about there. Nothing jinsung has ever shown any interest in so far in any way appears to be something mascheny currently has interest in. Jinsung interests we know:

1.- Cigarettes'.
2.- Lollipops.
3.- Bam.
4.- Dressing bam.
5.- Formerly killing 10 family members.
6.- Training slayers.
7.- killing zahard.

Unless mascheny wants to kill zahard the series doesn't exactly evidence them sharing objectives. And mascheny being out to orchestrate zahard's death seems like a pretty big stretch in general. And even in the frames you copied mascheny is basically going on about how everyone is increasingly fighting everyone else. Which fits pretty well with her earlier comments on wanting a war.

 

[Cinera]

Both mascheny and asencio are young-ish characters. It's a pretty big claim that mascheny would necessarily be the strongest non-eduan khun or stronger than descendants of family heads that could have been around since even the empire begun.

Where were those stronger children on the Hidden Floor? Why was their strength not acknowledged by Eduan?

Luch is a descendant of Eduan from Genesis; it doesn't automatically make one an Elite High Ranker, let alone Top 100.


At any rate, Maschenny is Eduan's strongest child because:

• Her innate talent is by far, the greatest in the Khun Family.
  • The Maschenny bloodline is the most distinguished Khun bloodline.
    • Maschenny Zahard is the Maschenny.
      • She's the one who invented the Maschenny Style Lightning Spear.
        • Said Lightning Spear Technique is considered one of the ultimate techniques.
      • She's the one that made their bloodline so notable.
  • Maschenny is a Princess and so has bonuses from Zahard's blood as well.
    • Maschenny is the only Princess from the Khun Family to be awarded a 13 Months weapon.
      • As she's the most talented Princess the Family has ever produced.
    • Maschenny is one of the strongest 13 Month Princesses period.
• Maschenny is several thousand years old.
  • Around 5,000 years ago, she was one of the Princesses tasked with the capture of Enne Zahard.
  • She has realised a lot of her potential.

And... we have no idea of what mascheny is planning.

She wants Baam to become a vast wave of anger the likes of which the Tower has never seen before:

And even then she has made the point that with the lo po bia potentially getting involved the situation is increasingly getting out of hand.

No, this was directed at the involvement of the Great Warriors in Baam's story:

• Gustang
• Zahard
• Lord Lo Po Bia

These are the people that Maschenny can't handle who are actively involved.

In the end it appears mascheny's endgame is war and chaos, whether she fights bam or not.

As explained in my earlier post, that's not her end game.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Talking about the serious things, assuming Baam wins a fight vs Maschenny and she falls in love with him, would Maschenny be a dom or a sub ? I think you could make the argument for both...

 

[kkck]

Where were those stronger children on the Hidden Floor? Why was their strength not acknowledged by Eduan?

Luch is a descendant of Eduan from Genesis; it doesn't automatically make one an Elite High Ranker, let alone Top 100.


At any rate, Maschenny is Eduan's strongest child because:

• Her innate talent is by far, the greatest in the Khun Family.
  • The Maschenny bloodline is the most distinguished Khun bloodline.
    • Maschenny Zahard is the Maschenny.
      • She's the one who invented the Maschenny Style Lightning Spear.
        • Said Lightning Spear Technique is considered one of the ultimate techniques.
      • She's the one that made their bloodline so notable.
  • Maschenny is a Princess and so has bonuses from Zahard's blood as well.
    • Maschenny is the only Princess from the Khun Family to be awarded a 13 Months weapon.
      • As she's the most talented Princess the Family has ever produced.
    • Maschenny is one of the strongest 13 Month Princesses period.
• Maschenny is several thousand years old.
  • Around 5,000 years ago, she was one of the Princesses tasked with the capture of Enne Zahard.
  • She has realised a lot of her potential.

She wants Baam to become a vast wave of anger the likes of which the Tower has never seen before:

No, this was directed at the involvement of the Great Warriors in Baam's story:

• Gustang
• Zahard
• Lord Lo Po Bia

These are the people that Maschenny can't handle who are actively involved.



As explained in my earlier post, that's not her end game.

The hidden floor? That has literally nothing to do with anything. Most regulars don't even bother with that. And sure luch is from that time but... So what? That doesn't really make a case of anything.

There is no scenario where mascheny being eduan's strongest children as you suggest isn't a crackpot theory. None of the stuff you mention actually proves it. Plausible? Sure, but the evidence for that is still definitely insufficient to actually conclude what you are suggesting. And yes, mascheny is about 5000 years old. Which isn't really that old by the tower's standards.

 

[Cinera]

7.- killing zahard.

Unless mascheny wants to kill zahard the series doesn't exactly evidence them sharing objectives

Yes wanting to kill Zahard is exactly it. The evidence of them sharing objectives is Maschenny stating twice (everytime she was asked mind you) that she has the same goals as Jinsung.

That is quite frankly strong evidence.

And mascheny being out to orchestrate zahard's death seems like a pretty big stretch in general.

How is it a big stretch? Especially when she outright tells us it's what she wants. If you're going to doubt repeat character statements you need a damn good reason.

Skepticism just cause is silly.

And even in the frames you copied mascheny is basically going on about how everyone is increasingly fighting everyone else. Which fits pretty well with her earlier comments on wanting a war.

As I explained earlier, the war is a means not an end for Maschenny. Maschenny believes that Zahard's removal cannot be a clean affair. Her and Jinsung's shared goal of overthrowing the current Zahard led Tower order cannot be accomplished without bloodshed.

 

[zoradante1]

I don't believe mascheny has the capacity to enjoy any sort of penetration that doesn't involve her using a comically large lightning spear to kabob the unfortunate soul that she placed her sight on tbh. In context when she crashed the fight between jinsung and kallavan what we saw was pretty much hardcore mascheny porn.

imagine baam devoruing a khun member and creating a thick and long lightning spear to fight againist maschenny in bed, it just sounds awesome.

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Yes wanting to kill Zahard is exactly it. The evidence of them sharing objectives is Maschenny stating twice (everytime she was asked mind you) that she has the same goals as Jinsung.

That is quite frankly strong evidence.



How is it a big stretch? Especially when she outright tells us it's what she wants. If you're going to doubt repeat character statements you need a damn good reason.

Skepticism just cause is silly.



As I explained earlier, the war is a means not an end for Maschenny. Maschenny believes that Zahard's removal cannot be a clean affair. Her and Jinsung's shared goal of overthrowing the current Zahard led Tower order cannot be accomplished without bloodshed.

it's quite likely that "original" Khun Maschenny is strongest after khun eduan in khun family like twins of ha family.A newbie zahard princess becoming strongest in family after FH doesn't make sense unless she has monstrous talent like adori.

 

[Cinera]

Talking about the serious things, assuming Baam wins a fight vs Maschenny and she falls in love with him, would Maschenny be a dom or a sub ? I think you could make the argument for both...

What's the argument for Maschenny being a sub? I don't think Adult Maschenny has shown submissiveness towards anything.

The hidden floor? That has literally nothing to do with anything. Most regulars don't even bother with that.

The Hell Train is a shortcut for talented Regulars. "Tons" of Khun children made it to the Hidden Floor, but it's only the 3 we saw that Eduan acknowledged.

And sure luch is from that time but... So what? That doesn't really make a case of anything.

It disproves the notion that the oldest children are necessarily the most powerful.

There is no scenario where mascheny being eduan's strongest children as you suggest isn't a crackpot theory.

You don't seem to know what "crackpot" actually means.

None of the stuff you mention actually proves it. Plausible? Sure, but the evidence for that is still definitely insufficient to actually conclude what you are suggesting.

Maschenny is — by a large margin — Eduan's most gifted child. That's all but stated by SIU in the Webtoon/blog posts.

And yes, mascheny is about 5000 years old.

Not really. She was an Elite High Ranker 5,000 years ago. She could very well be 7,000 or more.

Which isn't really that old by the tower's standards.

Yeah, age isn't that big a factor:

• Enne Zahard was #7 at 482.
• Hagipherione should be < 1,000 and she's #36.
• Kallavan reached Jinsung's tier within 3,000 years of becoming a High Ranker.

Maschenny not realising her potential after 5,000+ years of being a High Ranker is unsubstantiated.

 

[Shadowlord123]

None of the ones in the poll. Based on the number and quality of fanarts, AA would be the best girl by far for Baam.

 

[Cinera]

it's quite likely that "original" Khun Maschenny is strongest after khun eduan in khun family like twins of ha family.A newbie zahard princess becoming strongest in family after FH doesn't make sense unless she has monstrous talent like adori.

This is actually very unlikely:

1. It is Maschenny Zahard not Khun Maschenny that invented the Maschenny Style Lightning Spear.
   • Said Lightning Spear is considered one of the Ultimate Spear techniques.
   • Maschenny Zahard is probably also the one that invented the Maschenny Style Fighting Techniques and Redan.
2. Only Maschenny Zahard can use the Maschenny Style Lightning Spear to it's full potential.
   • Her usage of the technique is vastly stronger than the application of the same technique by ordinary High Rankers.
3. Maschenny is not a newbie Zahard Princess.
   1. She's been a High Ranker for 5,000+ years.

As far as we know, the original Khun Maschenny merely provided the genetics to make Maschenny Zahard possible. All the fame and fear of the name "Maschenny" stems from Maschenny Zahard.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

What's the argument for Maschenny being a sub? I don't think Adult Maschenny has shown submissiveness towards anything.

Not that i think it's necessairly true but i would say that she could potentially worship an incredibly strong/interesting person if she 1) respected his strenght 2) shared his objective/view on things 3) she liked him
The fact that it might be a short lived relationship or that she would be willing to/wanted to also fight against said person to the death eventually, doesn't really mean she would be unwilling to be submissive in bed, as she might even demand an assertive partner to begin with. She could also very well like both sides of the spectrum depending on her mood since she is a person that gets bored quite easily it seems.

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None of the ones in the poll. Based on the number and quality of fanarts, AA would be the best girl by far for Baam.

Mmmm, Khun is way too clingy and manipulative. The type to show fake tears or say that he will kill himself if you leave him, red flags all over him imo

 

[Ignorant]

khun elliot royale seems to be stronger than maschenny and asencio