Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter(by alpha scans)----
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You don't say.



LOL, yeah, the literal (sex) slave (NN) and person he got a command to FUCK NOW OR GET PUNISHED was well-treated! I guess WW also forgot he was an experiment forced to fight and kill off other beastkin for his mad scientist 'master' as well. That's completely kosher when it comes to treatment!

You're in as much denial as WW.



Right. See above. Denial.



Sure, sure! They could do what they wanted, clearly. To include leaving and fucking who they wanted! Wait, what's this? They couldn't? They were locked into a tower and forced into servitude? Oh, well, nevermind...



"Hey, daddy-master, please treat my people that are used as expendables, my kids who are destined to replace me and be forced to fuck other unwitting bitches (literally), and my girl who had no sexual control or freedom and had to be forcibly captured really nicely, k, thanks."

Denial. Yours and his.



Literally everything was being set up to show what has been happening historically by LPB slaves, and WW himself, to also happen to his kids in the future. Not that NN is even needed after the pups are reared. What a retarded assumption (yours and his).



And we found out he fucking assumed incorrectly, didn't we? That those in the outer region were slated to be destroyed, himself included. At the very least WW is an absolute idiot, because all the hints and people making reference to that being the outcome far in advance. Rei couldn't have telegraphed the obvious any more plainly than he did, and to include WW's personal experience and what he was hearing from Yas and NN, and STILL decided to be 'loyal' (to a fault). Absolute idiocy.



It's not a 'maybe' when this is textbook blind loyalty. "Maybe water is wet" isn't a thing.

And you can't gloss over WW making a pact with NN, then not following through. He picked an asshole over his family, so in fact he wasn't loyal - to the mother of his child(ren). NN even adopted Doom, which she didn't have to do. She is/was a 'down-ass chick' and he spit on her as a mother, who he promised to help, over comfort in not changing the status-quo.

That's not from the readers' perspective (your cop-out). WW was actively involved in screwing her over, and his kids/Yas by extension (Yas was assured through NN that WW could be trusted).



Then he should have been straight with her from the start. AND Yas/NN a fucking year later when they were under the impression he was reliable. WW created the confusion by promising two different people two conflicting vows. That's on WW, no one else. If he didn't like the pressure he should have addressed it. He's weak as a personality, if not strong physically. He attempts to make up for this actual lack of character by showing loyalty against his freedom and the freedom of others that rely on him. NOT ADMIRABLE.



LOL, "his principals." The same principals to lie to the mother of your children in the face? To allow your people to continue to be used as disposables? Because he prioritizes his own value (in finding value as a lapdog)? What a chad!!



I mean, he's clearly more than just a dog. He understands human sentimentality and concepts.
WW just know how to speak and walk as human nothing else..
 

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I'm just going to say that knowing that the tower hasn't had any major military events for several millennia, it wouldn't be absurd to believe that every great family's #2 is a blue hole
Quite possibly. The point is the period of 10's of thousands of years is a long time and we have literally no data to suggest the rarity one way or another of blue holes.

If there are a million rankers presently, there must have been many more over such a long time frame.

As such, 1000 falling off the radar and becoming blue holes is a relative minority, but still a 'lot' if there were only 20-100 ancients looking for host. Just arbitrary numbers.

Probably? We have dogs and felines using their own variation of mimesis. I suppose its possible but it sounds weird that other beastkin would wouldn't have their own variations of this ability (since dogs and cats have different versions of it).nn didn't use it but we don't know why. maybe she simple didn't have it or maybe she is like paul.
OK, so it's not confirmed then.

I mean, it seems the peons fight with actual weapons, not nemesis.

Then, you have the stronger ones that can do stage 1.

Even stronger can do stage 2.

And so on.

I had always reasoned that mimisis was something that not all had the potential to do.



Regardless, other tower hybrids certainly have other powers. It doesn't have to be mimesis. Anyone that's survived in the tower has some technique or power in some way.
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WW just know how to speak and walk as human nothing else..
If WW is a biological robot just repeating genetic queues, then that's not admirable either.
 
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On the matter of royal audience, is it related to Yas wanting to reveal NN's plan? The fact "royal" is used is suspect. If there is anyone royal within LPB, it would be Rei, not Kirin. But there is nothing "royal" in the LPB family, it seems to me related to Zahard. I think Yas here is showing us his way out : the royal army, which where Yas is in the present time, not FUG when he talked with WW.
This doesn't work because (as far as I'm aware at least) "royal" is not actually used in Tower of God. It's always "Zahard".
  • Zahard Army
  • Zahard Empire
  • Zahard Family
  • The Zahards
  • Zahard Princesses

The Zahard Family is never called "the Royal Family". The Zahard Army isn't called "the Royal Army".

The audience that Kirin refers to is IMO simply Yasratcha's audience with Kirin/Traumerei.



Rereading chapter 528, Rei said to personally deal with canines, then Kirin informed him Yas wants a royal audience. Rei understood and will take care of it.

WW & the canines in the outskirt are screwed to begin with, even before Yas reveal anything to Kirin.
No. There's a flashback to one day ago.



no point is it said to be a beastkin like Yas and WW
Neneya is actually said to be a Beastkin during her introduction.
 

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Casually remembers Wangwang mentioned a few chapters back that there were beastmen stronger than himself and yasratcha. i wonder if thats a throwaway point, or will have some relevance later.
Probably they were stronger by the time they started climbing.. once they grow up is a different story we can see that WW and Yas are stronger than the most LPBBH
 

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It is literally bullshit .

Tell me where do you study that 5 or 6 individual being and use to make a global generalization .

You have 5 - 6 ancient and you assume that race can produce lot of guy like them .

Probability and serious research take a whole population or social category , accros multiple country , they never take 6 or 7 case.

You can't teach anything about probability , if you think taking 6 individual from a whole race is enough to make a general statement .

The fact is that we never saw any race right now producing 100 top 100 , even for GF .

I am just arguing ? I am not the one saying thing like like guy like Evankell are like 100 K in a single race .

That statement is one of the most ridiculous one , maybe even more ridiculous than .

Honestly i think you have a wish that ancient and native one are beast , and you would like them to rivalize or be a real threat for irregular , which you are free too .

But you are literally twisting facts here .

You are making assumption not me .

Please point where i present my statement as fact , those are only why i think is right and i tell them nothing more . If you think i am wrong about blue hole , you are free to think it , but don't come saying i make assumtion when i never present them as fact .

In fact you are showing you contradiction given that most HR and top HR were properly ranked and know , and only Khell was unknow and according to you nonsensical logic saying blue hole are rare should be true ?

So it is okay when you use you nonsensical logic about common occurence to arrive to nonsensical conclusion , but when i do it , i have no evidence ?

My guy you need some coherence here , you can argue for everything and it's contrary .

The worst part is you guy are arguing about the validity of the ranking , and you are ready to accept that what ? hundred or thousand off top 100 are hidden and RA don't list them ?
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Yep , it is that simple .

Bringing morality here is irrelevant .

Everyone is acting upon the instinct , nothing more .
--- Double Post Merged, ---

You can be excited about ancient one , and native one .

But let us chill out and wait to for more thing to happen before making any serious statement .

You don't need to exagerate thing that much .
--- Double Post Merged, ---

It seems that most off the time you make sensible point , but when it come to native and ancient one you start make huge assumption .

When in reality , all we really have are mostly hype and hints and bits of info .
You don't seem to understand the difference between me saying

- "hey, this seems to be a trend, even though the sampling size is low, it will probably continue, but no guarantee"

with you saying

- "hey, that trend you see emerging is probably wrong, and it's the opposite of what everyone sees as the start of trend data, and I'm basing this on absolutely nothing"



Go read up on probability. Spend time flipping a coin. Learn about six sigma.

Or don't.

As it is you refuse to communicate clearly with just huge walls of text that I have to figure out what is linked to what I said. Waste of time.
 

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My only problem with this WW and Traumerei situation is the fact that traumerei didn’t customize a jacket with WW skin and fur.
I mean why no? Im mad as F.
 

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Looking ahead, Nen-Nen is dead, Ackrinak is sealed inside Yama, dogs will somehow escape, WangWang's kids will grow up, and we would be back to the present.

1) Does current Yama have a clue of what happened in the past, or does doom?
2) Is all of Ackrinak inside Yama or only a portion of him, thus making it possible for the sealed being talking to bam to still be Ackinak
3) Will Traumeiri set his eyes on Killing Yama (who has Ackrinaik).... Resulting in a return match of sorts
4) If (2) and (3) are true, then there should eventually be an explosive confrontation between Akrinakized Bam vs Traumeiri resulting in Traumeiri's defeat or/and Zahard's intervention.
5) If 4 is true, then witness the birth of a new Fug-God, no Fug Overlord.
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||6) We had our hopes up before, only to be let down, but maybe this time.....
this point reminded me that when doom injected yama with the fang, he had a flashback of WW and YAS, maybe this is how doom knows some of the details of what happened with his father, yeas and the Lo PO bia's ?
 

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Yorari don’t get in the way of baam when you know Cha is guarding his back you prolly face death in the hand of a beast 👀
 

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i don't thin so , the more talented you are , the lesser people like you exist .

Top 300 is already a extremely high position .

When you look at Androssi , the 2 LPB princess , given they current feat do you think they are top 300 material ?

For me it isn't the case , but when i look at the ranking i could think like you guys
Don't ask me that, I truly believe Androssi is the princess the 13 months are waiting for. lmao

Yes, I am Androssi's cinera.

Joking aside, I see no reason for her not to be a top 300. Zahard princesses are monsters not because they have Zahard's blood, but because they are chosen.

The selection is extremely strict, in the 10 families, which have a powerful lineage and are, in the majority, extremely talented, the princesses undergo an absurd selection, see the case of Kaiser. Now, imagine a princess with no lineage and who came out of nowhere? I find them even more monstrous.

Androssi doesn't have the family contracts, or an absurd lineage (as far as we know), like the other zahard princesses, but from the moment she was trained by Yuri and Data YHS, she grew exponentially, imagine if she was trained directly by a family like Yuri or a FH like Maschenny by Data Eduan?

In fact, apart from one or two friends of Baam, I see them all reaching the top 300 or even more, they've already shown how talented they are, plus the climb is long and the tower is vast.

In short, yes, I believe that all princesses can reach a high level, but many didn't have time for it, either because they broke the contract (like Anak), were ambushed by the 10 families or lost in the battle royale. But yes, they definitely all had the potential to reach the top tier of the rankings. SIU has always made it clear that they are a separate power in the tower and all the princesses we've seen so far have been the pinnacle of their environments, whether as regulars, novice or veteran rankers.
 

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Casually remembers Wangwang mentioned a few chapters back that there were beastmen stronger than himself and yasratcha. i wonder if thats a throwaway point, or will have some relevance later.
Well, that was before they climbed the tower, who knows how many survived or how many had a similar growth rate to them.

But, I don't think SIU would put that information down for nothing, we will definitely see them at some point.
 

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You don't seem to understand the difference between me saying

- "hey, this seems to be a trend, even though the sampling size is low, it will probably continue, but no guarantee"

with you saying

- "hey, that trend you see emerging is probably wrong, and it's the opposite of what everyone sees as the start of trend data, and I'm basing this on absolutely nothing"



Go read up on probability. Spend time flipping a coin. Learn about six sigma.

Or don't.

As it is you refuse to communicate clearly with just huge walls of text that I have to figure out what is linked to what I said. Waste of time.
Stop lying , and misrepresenting people . You need to reread our whole convo because you are either being dishonest here or you forgot what you and i wrote .

I don't think i never said that you were wrong . My point was that using 5 people of a certain group to make a whole generalization about a whole race wasn't correct .

Here is what you said .

" Well, yes, that's why this is all speculation. But, we can make INFERENCE based on data and best guesses with a range of probability. And SIU continues to drop hints. "

What is a inference ? a CONCLUSION reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.

So are you speaking about inference or trend ?
 

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Don't ask me that, I truly believe Androssi is the princess the 13 months are waiting for. lmao

Yes, I am Androssi's cinera.

Joking aside, I see no reason for her not to be a top 300. Zahard princesses are monsters not because they have Zahard's blood, but because they are chosen.

The selection is extremely strict, in the 10 families, which have a powerful lineage and are, in the majority, extremely talented, the princesses undergo an absurd selection, see the case of Kaiser. Now, imagine a princess with no lineage and who came out of nowhere? I find them even more monstrous.

Androssi doesn't have the family contracts, or an absurd lineage (as far as we know), like the other zahard princesses, but from the moment she was trained by Yuri and Data YHS, she grew exponentially, imagine if she was trained directly by a family like Yuri or a FH like Maschenny by Data Eduan?

In fact, apart from one or two friends of Baam, I see them all reaching the top 300 or even more, they've already shown how talented they are, plus the climb is long and the tower is vast.

In short, yes, I believe that all princesses can reach a high level, but many didn't have time for it, either because they broke the contract (like Anak), were ambushed by the 10 families or lost in the battle royale. But yes, they definitely all had the potential to reach the top tier of the rankings. SIU has always made it clear that they are a separate power in the tower and all the princesses we've seen so far have been the pinnacle of their environments, whether as regulars, novice or veteran rankers.
You joking about androssi but in the meantime cinera takes that seriously and its writing a 10 points essay to show you why androssi is not the 13 month princesses that going show baam his true self in the rice pot
 

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Is my way to save you guys from that boring WW and NN conversation
I know. I saw you do it 3x in a row. Lol

Stop lying , and misrepresenting people . You need to reread our whole convo because you are either being dishonest here or you forgot what you and i wrote .

I don't think i never said that you were wrong . My point was that using 5 people of a certain group to make a whole generalization about a whole race wasn't correct .

Well, yes, that's why this is all speculation. But, we can make INFERENCE based on data and best guesses with a range of probability. And SIU continues to drop hints. "

What is a inference ? a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.

So are you speaking about inference or trend ?
So, what does the trend so far show (as small as it is)?

Does it show that ancients prefer strong hosts, or otherwise?
 

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I'm just going to say that knowing that the tower hasn't had any major military events for several millennia, it wouldn't be absurd to believe that every great family's #2 is a blue hole
I think it depends a lot, because as far as we know the regents are the #2 in each family and they run everything, that is, they are extremely active compared to the FH.

The twins vie for leadership in the Ha family.

Kirin seems to run everything and is the head of BH.

Eduan only knows how to manage his wives skirt, so someone must run the family, maybe his most influential wife, I would kick Maschenny (mother)

And so on, I wouldn't be surprised if some families had hidden forces like the PB or Eurasia and in fact the real #2's were off the radar, but given the FH starvation I highly doubt it.
 

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Don't ask me that, I truly believe Androssi is the princess the 13 months are waiting for. lmao

Yes, I am Androssi's cinera.

Joking aside, I see no reason for her not to be a top 300. Zahard princesses are monsters not because they have Zahard's blood, but because they are chosen.

The selection is extremely strict, in the 10 families, which have a powerful lineage and are, in the majority, extremely talented, the princesses undergo an absurd selection, see the case of Kaiser. Now, imagine a princess with no lineage and who came out of nowhere? I find them even more monstrous.

Androssi doesn't have the family contracts, or an absurd lineage (as far as we know), like the other zahard princesses, but from the moment she was trained by Yuri and Data YHS, she grew exponentially, imagine if she was trained directly by a family like Yuri or a FH like Maschenny by Data Eduan?

In fact, apart from one or two friends of Baam, I see them all reaching the top 300 or even more, they've already shown how talented they are, plus the climb is long and the tower is vast.

In short, yes, I believe that all princesses can reach a high level, but many didn't have time for it, either because they broke the contract (like Anak), were ambushed by the 10 families or lost in the battle royale. But yes, they definitely all had the potential to reach the top tier of the rankings. SIU has always made it clear that they are a separate power in the tower and all the princesses we've seen so far have been the pinnacle of their environments, whether as regulars, novice or veteran rankers.
Well i respect you love for Androssi lol .

But i don't want to debate anymore point about character ( Maschenny ) or race ( ancient native one ) that some people may like .

In the end , i believe she can reach HR level , but that anything past top 300 is a position that is even extremely rare in history .

For example Evankhell and Yama are not even recognized as top 100 and may really be top 300 .

Honestly for me , all the jahad princess we saw at regular level were unimpressive .

When i look at Maschenny the only word that come to my mind is trash .
 

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Who is this 'Cha'? I only know of a Chi.
Don't stop me if Chi mops the floor with Orari or any other top tier LPB and we prove Sly wrong again.
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You joking about androssi but in the meantime cinera takes that seriously and its writing a 10 points essay to show you why androssi is not the 13 month princesses that going show baam his true self in the rice pot
plot twist: I'm not kidding.

I really think so, but unlike cinera, I don't create wild theories for something I have no basis for and it's just my wish as a fanboy
 

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I know. I saw you do it 3x in a row. Lol



So, what does the trend so far show (as small as it is)?

Does it show that ancients prefer strong hosts, or otherwise?
I don't know why but there is sentence that is lacking when you quoted , which show how you were speaking about facts , and how now you are saying that you were speaking about some trend .

Why does this question matter ?


I never even talked about preference .

I talked about availability .

Are strong host that common ? can thing like Akrinac enter every ancient one they want ? Can they possed being far away ? Can they posses full grown adult ? Can they wait in order to chose a strong being .

Beside preference there are so many thing that come into play about how guy like Akrinac transfer they power that we don't know about .

There is so many question about how they transmit they power or how that race function in general .

Which again come back to my point that barely have any info about that race .
 
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