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I think it actually comes from Arlene. Just as Eduan's sons are good with spears, this spell-breaking power could come from her, not least because as far as I remember, it hasn't been said that FH or Zahard can break spells.
I remember Gustang saying the floor of death soul spell would be hard for even him to break. Meaning it's possible but hard.
My working theory is that 'contracts' and 'spells' - in the tower at least - are enforced with shinsoo.
That's one reason spells are rare and outlawed.
If true, then you both are correct. Irregulars not 'bound' by chains can break spells (SIU also says only stronger spells/spell-casters can break a lower spell IIRC), and ALSO Baam is particularly strong with this due to his lineage/Arlen.
Perhaps the fact that Baam is an irregular + Arlene's bloodline + external power makes him capable of breaking any spell, regardless of restrictions.
It was specifically said that only the Family Leaders and Zahard could break the spell on the Second Wall:I believe so.
But I want to know if Baam has been 'shackling' himself all this time, on every floor, with shinsoo contracts. I assume so.
I think that was a mistake the OG13 made. And Baam's doing it again. Or is he? (or can he shackle himself, and then via the thorn/his heritage break said shackels...)
Looking back on this, I think some of us haven't been looking at the difference in power scaling as you go up in rankings. I now understand why Kallavan turned out to be way stronger than some of us thought, I personally underestimated his position as a too 100 ranker that could defeat ab ancient monster like Jinsung.Maschenny is the one who gifted Baam with Leviathan.
Heaven forbid it.
No. Per Evankhell, the Top 300 High Rankers can defeat an entire Army Corps (without the Corps Commander) by themselves:
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That's:
- 1 Vice Corps Commander
- 4 Division Commanders
- 4 Assistant Division Commanders
- An unknown number of Advanced Rankers
- 120+ Rankers
Neither Karaka nor even Yuri is yet at this level.
It's a shinheuh not an Anima. Anima is the position that uses shinheuh.So it's an fail anima trau seal for being crazy and arrogant lol, thought it was more badass than that oh well it's still cool, and bam talking down to it is good already made up his mind for the sun to take it, so he baiting it threats at least bam gets an anima finally can't wait to see what exactly it's powers are.
Eh, what little we know of demons associated with the Great Warriors, they seem to have originated/being born from them, as opposed to being introduced externally.Perhaps the workshop during the revolution implants demons within the irregulars
I mean what really is weird , is the beast speaking of outside the tower .
Yeah, it's so arrogant that it's declaring that it's above even the Irregulars.I think what he means there is 'those that come from outside the tower' i.e., irregulars. I don't think it is saying it's from outside, or knows about the outside.
Well, unless it has shared memories from Rei from the outside.
It would not surprise me that Maschenny's intention from the get go, or at least hope was for Bam to inherit this monster, and for him to be seen by Zahard and Trameiri. If like she said or implied, she wanted to shake up the tower and bring chaos, she was smart enough, and In The Know enough to understand that an irregular was needed to upset things. She Obviously knew about the creature, and she probably knew about Arlene's prophesy. From her POV the risks to herself (as a betrayer of Zahard) is probably well worth it.to be fair,it's still possible that there is more in the nest than that demon. we know traumerei have the nest to zahard. so we can't rule out the demon not being what mascheny wanted. she might not even have known that was there.
Sorry it wasn't what you wanted it to be. I'm sure the story would be so much better for YOU if things happened how you wanted.And to think it would be a "dragon" really.
Is there a panel to confirm this? I don't remember it being temporary.Baam could only disable it for a few seconds.
Leviathan said that it is unable to die as long as people bear hatred towards Traumerei.i guess our new friend dragon will take care of the snake lol baam need to have his own animal too and of course it will be a dragonbut still i'm curious how that dragon still alive and why traumei didnt kill him if he wasnt able to control it ! i bet when he will see that baam controling it he will probably try to kill baam
None of the Regulars are with him, and they are the ones who need that ability of his the most.So now that everyone is gathered around karaka, can he suck them all into his dimension to avoid the explosion?
One of the core themes of Tower of God is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.Leviathan: "Thank you for freeing me! Let's go together and get revenge on the FHs! Let's be friends!"
Bam:"Shut up, you gonna be a slave whether you like it or not! Come be my bitch!"
I don't really like Bam becoming like the FHs. His whole deal was that he was different from them. What sense is there in a power shift in the Tower if he is as much as a tyrant as Jahad?
Hmm does that mean jahad do the same thing and the thing he seperates transformed into wangwang , karaka , the boss? ( 3 prince) and since hana has also made deal with the adminstrator to never feel love , does that mean that emotion transform into something else too like levithan/princes ?Notice the Jungian 'anima'
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Rei ejected his equivalent of Freud's 'Id' as Leviathan
Your guess is just as valid as any other at this point. There are more than a few people that believe the 'princes' are splinters of Zahard's traits, but I suppose that could me personality types as well.Hmm does that mean jahad do the same thing and the thing he seperates transformed into wangwang , karaka , the boss? ( 3 prince) and since hana has also made deal with the adminstrator to never feel love , does that mean that emotion transform into something else too like levithan/princes ?
Does that means every irregular did it ?
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The damn creature sustained his dignity for milenia, jailed for refusing to obey the bastard called Traumerei (which killed NenNen a while ago for wanting to see her children), and what does Bam do? Enslave it. He should release it once and for all.
Yep. And the operative word here isn't "strong" but "dangerous":It depends on what sort of creature it is.
How strong does a creature have to be for you to consider releasing it a sin against the whole world? He wasn't talking about a floor but the entire tower. Maybe both Baam and the creature are very ignorant?
And:Baam said:The thing that is about to wake up-
Is extremely dangerous-
Leviathan is so dangerous that releasing it is a sin against the world.Baam said:This thing is way too dangerous to be taken outside to the world.
If I were to take this out in order to keep my promise with Princess Maschenny, then I would be committing a sin to this world.
And you guys still spend days arguing with him about Maschenny.Maschenny is the one who gifted Baam with Leviathan.
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Is everything ok man? Do you need a tranquilizer?Sorry it wasn't what you wanted it to be. I'm sure the story would be so much better for YOU if things happened how you wanted.![]()
Terrible idea. White and his storyline needs to be done. It was boring and added nothing. Why keep resurfacing his plot, that’s like Pokémon.This is actually great. Hope SIU thought the same or follows your idea, lol. White could get a 180º shift and become powerfull through different means.
This adds a whole new layer to Rei's conduct thus far. He wants Leviathan alive, but under his control.Leviathan said that it is unable to die as long as people bear hatred towards Traumerei.
Bruh, your posts today are insane.So, um, Rei birthed it.