Chapter Tower of God Chapter 531 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

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[Cinera]

I think it actually comes from Arlene. Just as Eduan's sons are good with spears, this spell-breaking power could come from her, not least because as far as I remember, it hasn't been said that FH or Zahard can break spells.

I remember Gustang saying the floor of death soul spell would be hard for even him to break. Meaning it's possible but hard.

My working theory is that 'contracts' and 'spells' - in the tower at least - are enforced with shinsoo.

That's one reason spells are rare and outlawed.

If true, then you both are correct. Irregulars not 'bound' by chains can break spells (SIU also says only stronger spells/spell-casters can break a lower spell IIRC), and ALSO Baam is particularly strong with this due to his lineage/Arlen.

Perhaps the fact that Baam is an irregular + Arlene's bloodline + external power makes him capable of breaking any spell, regardless of restrictions.

I believe so.

But I want to know if Baam has been 'shackling' himself all this time, on every floor, with shinsoo contracts. I assume so.

I think that was a mistake the OG13 made. And Baam's doing it again. Or is he? (or can he shackle himself, and then via the thorn/his heritage break said shackels...)

It was specifically said that only the Family Leaders and Zahard could break the spell on the Second Wall:

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Baam could only disable it for "a second":

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So the Great Warriors are superior spell breakers to Baam (at least current Baam).

 

[VON]

You guys are pretty dang crazy and smart for making that theory of it being Rei's ego manifested so quickly. The plausibility of it is high as well.

 

[Kunrin]

Maschenny is the one who gifted Baam with Leviathan.



Heaven forbid it.




No. Per Evankhell, the Top 300 High Rankers can defeat an entire Army Corps (without the Corps Commander) by themselves:

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That's:

• 1 Vice Corps Commander
• 4 Division Commanders
• 4 Assistant Division Commanders
• An unknown number of Advanced Rankers
• 120+ Rankers

Neither Karaka nor even Yuri is yet at this level.

Looking back on this, I think some of us haven't been looking at the difference in power scaling as you go up in rankings. I now understand why Kallavan turned out to be way stronger than some of us thought, I personally underestimated his position as a too 100 ranker that could defeat ab ancient monster like Jinsung.

 

[Jacinto Pinto]

that ugly blue icy thing is gonna give me nightmares

 

[Big-Bird]

Leviathan is Traumerai's spirit beast as Fenryl is Elaine's spirit beast.
Except that it is so strong that it has its own will like Zaraki's zanpakuto.

 

[Cinera]

So it's an fail anima trau seal for being crazy and arrogant lol, thought it was more badass than that oh well it's still cool, and bam talking down to it is good already made up his mind for the sun to take it, so he baiting it threats at least bam gets an anima finally can't wait to see what exactly it's powers are.

It's a shinheuh not an Anima. Anima is the position that uses shinheuh.

Perhaps the workshop during the revolution implants demons within the irregulars

Eh, what little we know of demons associated with the Great Warriors, they seem to have originated/being born from them, as opposed to being introduced externally.

I mean what really is weird , is the beast speaking of outside the tower .

I think what he means there is 'those that come from outside the tower' i.e., irregulars. I don't think it is saying it's from outside, or knows about the outside.

Well, unless it has shared memories from Rei from the outside.

Yeah, it's so arrogant that it's declaring that it's above even the Irregulars.

 

[paulbee]

to be fair,it's still possible that there is more in the nest than that demon. we know traumerei have the nest to zahard. so we can't rule out the demon not being what mascheny wanted. she might not even have known that was there.

It would not surprise me that Maschenny's intention from the get go, or at least hope was for Bam to inherit this monster, and for him to be seen by Zahard and Trameiri. If like she said or implied, she wanted to shake up the tower and bring chaos, she was smart enough, and In The Know enough to understand that an irregular was needed to upset things. She Obviously knew about the creature, and she probably knew about Arlene's prophesy. From her POV the risks to herself (as a betrayer of Zahard) is probably well worth it.

If Bam does successfully assimilate the creature, his powers would be largely increased, he should then be able to wield the Thorns at a greater extent than before. This should be Maschenny's plan from the start. What could create chaos more than this?

 

[Urek_Mazino]

And to think it would be a "dragon" really.

Sorry it wasn't what you wanted it to be. I'm sure the story would be so much better for YOU if things happened how you wanted.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Baam could only disable it for a few seconds.

Is there a panel to confirm this? I don't remember it being temporary.

 

[Fish009]

Haven't read tog for a while, but yeah take that dragon Baam

I wonder how will the dragon be incorporated into baam's arsenal, would it just reside in his heart like all the other demons

 

[Cinera]

i guess our new friend dragon will take care of the snake lol baam need to have his own animal too and of course it will be a dragon but still i'm curious how that dragon still alive and why traumei didnt kill him if he wasnt able to control it ! i bet when he will see that baam controling it he will probably try to kill baam

Leviathan said that it is unable to die as long as people bear hatred towards Traumerei.

So now that everyone is gathered around karaka, can he suck them all into his dimension to avoid the explosion?

None of the Regulars are with him, and they are the ones who need that ability of his the most.

Leviathan: "Thank you for freeing me! Let's go together and get revenge on the FHs! Let's be friends!"
Bam:"Shut up, you gonna be a slave whether you like it or not! Come be my bitch!"

I don't really like Bam becoming like the FHs. His whole deal was that he was different from them. What sense is there in a power shift in the Tower if he is as much as a tyrant as Jahad?

One of the core themes of Tower of God is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[Big-Bird]

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[Sky is blue]

Notice the Jungian 'anima'

Rei ejected his equivalent of Freud's 'Id' as Leviathan

Hmm does that mean jahad do the same thing and the thing he seperates transformed into wangwang , karaka , the boss? ( 3 prince) and since hana has also made deal with the adminstrator to never feel love , does that mean that emotion transform into something else too like levithan/princes ?

Does that means every irregular did it ?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Hmm does that mean jahad do the same thing and the thing he seperates transformed into wangwang , karaka , the boss? ( 3 prince) and since hana has also made deal with the adminstrator to never feel love , does that mean that emotion transform into something else too like levithan/princes ?

Does that means every irregular did it ?

Your guess is just as valid as any other at this point. There are more than a few people that believe the 'princes' are splinters of Zahard's traits, but I suppose that could me personality types as well.

I still believe they are clones however.

 

[paulbee]

Leviathan:

Leviathan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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........The Leviathan of the Book of Job is a reflection of the older Canaanite Lotan, a primeval monster defeated by the god Baal Hadad. Parallels to the role of Mesopotamian Tiamat defeated by Marduk have long been drawn in comparative mythology, as have been wider comparisons to dragon and world serpent narratives such as Indra slaying Vrtra or Thor slaying Jörmungandr.

I would find it deeply satisfying for the Leviathan to be related to an actual dragon. This would suit my boy Bam indeed.

 

[Cinera]

The damn creature sustained his dignity for milenia, jailed for refusing to obey the bastard called Traumerei (which killed NenNen a while ago for wanting to see her children), and what does Bam do? Enslave it. He should release it once and for all.

It depends on what sort of creature it is.
How strong does a creature have to be for you to consider releasing it a sin against the whole world? He wasn't talking about a floor but the entire tower. Maybe both Baam and the creature are very ignorant?

Yep. And the operative word here isn't "strong" but "dangerous":

The thing that is about to wake up-

Is extremely dangerous-

And:

This thing is way too dangerous to be taken outside to the world.

If I were to take this out in order to keep my promise with Princess Maschenny, then I would be committing a sin to this world.

Leviathan is so dangerous that releasing it is a sin against the world.

 

[sazon]

Maschenny is the one who gifted Baam with Leviathan.

And you guys still spend days arguing with him about Maschenny.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 20, 2022, Original Post Date: Feb 20, 2022 ---

Sorry it wasn't what you wanted it to be. I'm sure the story would be so much better for YOU if things happened how you wanted.

Is everything ok man? Do you need a tranquilizer?

I think it's cute when people create an account just to attack us.

 

[Sousko]

This is actually great. Hope SIU thought the same or follows your idea, lol. White could get a 180º shift and become powerfull through different means.

Terrible idea. White and his storyline needs to be done. It was boring and added nothing. Why keep resurfacing his plot, that’s like Pokémon.

 

[Epic_Rider]

Leviathan said that it is unable to die as long as people bear hatred towards Traumerei.

This adds a whole new layer to Rei's conduct thus far. He wants Leviathan alive, but under his control.

In contrast, Hon saw a demon in White too, but instead of sealing him away like Rei did, he let him go and even told him to come back and kill him if he could. Zahard seems to keep his demon inside him.

If these demons really are purged emotions a la FMA, what does their behaviour say about the FH that spawned them? How does the way said FH treat them relate to how they changed?

 

[lemo]

So, um, Rei birthed it.

Bruh, your posts today are insane.

I don't even wanna picture the time rei did this feat.

Maybe that image is what made baam go all nope and " you know what, imma just take your power and land the remaining parts of you be"