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[Killerbee12]

Where is the link

 

[Zerodx]

The chapter is good, but isn't Percival and Gawain currently a dead weight

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Four Knights of the Apocalypse | Chapter 65 | Cubari

Read the Four Knights of the Apocalypse manga series.

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Chapter out

 

[FKS]

Where is the link

There is the spoiler thread below this one, be sure to check those out.

 

[Jdmp53]

What a chp...loving these series more and more...

Mela and Galand were perfect to be resurrected now....and can't wait with whom king and diane's children will be shown against...Also Bartra going strong and teasing us with Eli looking after him..come on..hope she be the major healer after this fight is done.

Whoever is going after Bartra should be strong enough if he/she's being matched up against mel....

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There is the spoiler thread below this one, be sure to check those out.

ah..totally missed it..so two threads incl this for the sequel from now on?

 

[Vortigern]

I re-read last week's chapter and noticed that Nakaba apparently still hasn't spotted the timeline inconsistency.

Spoiler

The defeat of the Ten Commandments couldn't have happened 16 years ago if Tristan and Lancelot are 16 years old now, because they weren't born during or immediately after the fight against the TC. The 2nd to last chapter of NnT shows that Elizabeth and Elaine were pregnant with Tristan and Lancelot some 18 months after the Defeat of the DK, which means that it's currently been at least 17.5 years since the TC were defeated. It's possible that it's even more than that, because the sequel started on Percival's birthday on the 15th of April. I don't know how long it took for the group to travel to Liones, but Lancelot's birthday is on the 29th of April, exactly two weeks after Percival's. Lancelot either turned 16 while on the road with Percival's group, or he's about to turn 17 very soon. In the latter case the TC's defeat would have happened 18.5 years ago.

At this point it's getting difficult to tell whether Nakaba genuinely just doesn't realize that there is an inconsistency, if he's trying to retcon the timeline, or if there are some sort of time manipulation shenanigans going on here.

I am not sure what motive he'd have to come back. Plus Mera's spell doesn't need to know where a target is specifically. It affects a large area.

I wouldn't be so concerned about the motive or even the narrative purpose behind it. Galand had already served his purpose after his fight with Escanor and yet Nakaba felt the need to bring him back as a servant of Chaos. We also see that Arthur is apparently able to turn demons into complete human fanatics. Also, I don't think it's the same spell, since the incantation that she chants while summoning Galand is different from the incantation she used back in NnT. Back then she was calling out to some random souls, but this time around she specifically speaks to the "brethren souls" and "brothers, once called the Ten Commandments". The result is that instead of a large swarm of souls like before, we only see a single one descending down from the sky. It might be like the difference between Full Counter and Counter Vanish, or the magical and physical variants of Full Counter. They share the same basic principle, but are designed to function differently. Curiously, "brethren souls" is plural which could mean that she's actually trying to summon not just Galand but the rest of the dead TC as well. Of course it's possible that Melascula was simply referring to herself there despite the fact that her soul did not need to be summoned from anywhere, but we'll probably see soon enough.

He has the Ouroboros sword too.

The sword originally belonged to Varghese and was given to him by Arthur, so the activation command could have been influenced by either Arthur's Chaos powers or by Varghese's personal tastes. Who knows, maybe he was also somehow involved with this mysterious dragon god, which could have influenced Percival's birth in some way. Percival's magic is one thing, but I find it very odd that he's able to instinctively speak the demon language despite not being a demon, especially since it's supposed to be impossible for humans to pronounce. Him having a deeper connection to Chaos seems like a potential explanation for that.

Mela and Galand were perfect to be resurrected now....and can't wait with whom king and diane's children will be shown against

Well, going by the pattern set in this week's chapter it would have to be Chaos Drole and Chaos Gloxinia, but that's assuming Nakaba wants King and Diane's kid to get the same treatment as the other two kids (+Gawain, in a way). Recycling so many of the TC sounds like a very questionable move, but I have to admit I kind of like the idea of King and Diane's child overcoming both the fairy king and the giant king at the same time.

 

[Meliodaf]

Lancelot appears to be the leader and rightfully so. Although that’s certainly only temporary given that Percival is still going to end this at the forefront. And why does Galand’s memory stop at what Escanor did when we know he was still conscious as a statue. He should remember Estarossa crushing him. I think Arthur altered their memories to some degree.

The chapter is good, but isn't Percival and Gawain currently a dead weight

Deadweight implies uselessness and I don’t think either is that. Gawain is outclassed as far as experience but she still incredibly powerful. And Percival is currently the weakest but his magical ability isn’t without its uses. They’re not the best but they’re not exactly

 

[OtakuFreak]

The defeat of the Ten Commandments couldn't have happened 16 years ago if Tristan and Lancelot are 16 years old now, because they weren't born during or immediately after the fight against the TC. The 2nd to last chapter of NnT shows that Elizabeth and Elaine were pregnant with Tristan and Lancelot some 18 months after the Defeat of the DK, which means that it's currently been at least 17.5 years since the TC were defeated. It's possible that it's even more than that, because the sequel started on Percival's birthday on the 15th of April. I don't know how long it took for the group to travel to Liones, but Lancelot's birthday is on the 29th of April, exactly two weeks after Percival's. Lancelot either turned 16 while on the road with Percival's group, or he's about to turn 17 very soon. In the latter case the TC's defeat would have happened 18.5 years ago.

At this point it's getting difficult to tell whether Nakaba genuinely just doesn't realize that there is an inconsistency, if he's trying to retcon the timeline, or if there are some sort of time manipulation shenanigans going on here.

Considering how Nakaba just ended up retconing half the plot & lore in Taizai by releasing new chapters which destroyed the continuity, this doesn't really surprise me. The man doesn't put much thought into the consistency of his story.

 

[Rizaadxn]

Considering how Nakaba just ended up retconing half the plot & lore in Taizai by releasing new chapters which destroyed the continuity, this doesn't really surprise me. The man doesn't put much thought into the consistency of his story.

And the editor doesn't tell him that he's made a mistake because they're always getting drunk!

 

[Jason-Smithy-The-Cobbler]

Gowther Jr. said that he was interested in Merlin's growth and potential. I don't think Merlin could have blackmailed him to do anything when she was his apprentice back then. She wasn't as strong as she is now. The other Demons were probably not aware of this or they would have killed her.

She doesn’t need to be strong to blackmail him, not that it wouldn’t help

 

[Rizaadxn]

I was looking at the volume version for one of the earlier chapters and noticed this.

Didn't Percival originally say Cammymott?

Also decided to look at the volume version of chapter 6 when Lance first told Percival about Camelot and he says it right the first time, then says Gramelot (originally Camemyo), then Damelot (originally Camemyot).

 

[everythingnice]

I was looking at the volume version for one of the earlier chapters and noticed this.

Didn't Percival originally say Cammymott?

Also decided to look at the volume version of chapter 6 when Lance first told Percival about Camelot and he says it right the first time, then says Gramelot (originally Camemyo), then Damelot (originally Camemyot).

It just reinforces for me how adorably clumsy Percival is :3

 

[FKS]

I missed this tweet:

Nakaba is working hard on the manuscript, alright.
The text on the doodle says "There is nothing but black coffee to keep myself awake..."

 

[Jdmp53]

I re-read last week's chapter and noticed that Nakaba apparently still hasn't spotted the timeline inconsistency.


At this point it's getting difficult to tell whether Nakaba genuinely just doesn't realize that there is an inconsistency, if he's trying to retcon the timeline, or if there are some sort of time manipulation shenanigans going on here.

I'd like to think there's time manipulation shenanigans going on...He's explicitly made it clear that all the kids we've met so far are 16yrs,...which imo is something he doesn't need to mention as we haven't seen any plot reasons needing it to be confirmed. i believe he is doing it on purpose like maybe arthur did something..skip 2 yrs or something or compressed 2yrs into a sec or something to cope with his feelings about camelot...it feels like this 16yrs mention is a setup ...he has done bigger things in the prequel....

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Lancelot appears to be the leader and rightfully so. Although that’s certainly only temporary given that Percival is still going to end this at the forefront. And why does Galand’s memory stop at what Escanor did when we know he was still conscious as a statue. He should remember Estarossa crushing him. I think Arthur altered their memories to some degree.


Deadweight implies uselessness and I don’t think either is that. Gawain is outclassed as far as experience but she still incredibly powerful. And Percival is currently the weakest but his magical ability isn’t without its uses. They’re not the best but they’re not exactly

maybe it has something to do with estarossa being mael memory reverting back?

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Well, going by the pattern set in this week's chapter it would have to be Chaos Drole and Chaos Gloxinia, but that's assuming Nakaba wants King and Diane's kid to get the same treatment as the other two kids (+Gawain, in a way). Recycling so many of the TC sounds like a very questionable move, but I have to admit I kind of like the idea of King and Diane's child overcoming both the fairy king and the giant king at the same time.

I did think of chaos drole and gloxinia but they were on good terms with SDS towards end before their death and they were pretty satisfied with their end unlike Galand and mela who has a grudge against them ..don't see why arthur would use them but since he didn't see how they died and all..he might make them reappear but mistaken about them taking his side and joins kiane's kid....

 

[One4All]

can't wait with whom king and diane's children will be shown against

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Is kiane's kid mentioned or hinted in the latest chapter?or I just miss something?

I don't know much about the arthurian legends,but is there any chance that Kiane's kid will be an important character in this story?because both Diane and King didn't appear much more with their kid.

 

[Demonspeed]

Is kiane's kid mentioned or hinted in the latest chapter?or I just miss something?

I don't know much about the arthurian legends,but is there any chance that Kiane's kid will be an important character in this story?because both Diane and King didn't appear much more with their kid.

King said their kid is cute in the final NNT chapter and Elaine said Kid Lancelot(who looked girly before his haircut) looked like his cousin. Besides that I don't remember anything special. I think in Grudge of Edinburgh there is a panel where Diane asks if someone has seen her kid/kids I am not sure.

 

[Rizaadxn]

Elaine said Kid Lancelot(who looked girly before his haircut) looked like his cousin.

I wonder if Nakaba will actually remember this once he decides to introduce their kids.

 

[HereNThere]

Elaine said Kid Lancelot(who looked girly before his haircut) looked like his cousin.

You know, I remember us talking about that during the chapter release, but every time I reread that one shot, I cannot find that scene.

 

[Demonspeed]

You know, I remember us talking about that during the chapter release, but every time I reread that one shot, I cannot find that scene.

I checked the thread and it looks like you were right. Apparently it was from an early summary and she doesn't mention any cousin.

 

[Jason-Smithy-The-Cobbler]

I don’t why I only realized it in my musings but Meliodas forcing Mael to retreat in the Belial oneshot really can’t be used for much other than confirming that outside of a small duration of the day Meliodas is stronger than mael. This is because realistically the only reason for Mael to fight Meliodas alone would be so the other angels can escape. It’s simply too much of a risk for him to stall out their fight until noon or conversely try to take Mel out before his power sinks below mels since it’s not just his life on the line. Not only that but even if he did take Mel out somehow then he’d likely be injured enough that even a small fry like Belial could take him out. Mind you this is also prior to Mel turning good so it would be a far worse blow to stigma than losing Mael was due to gowther’s meddlings.

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I don’t why I only realized it in my musings but Meliodas forcing Mael to retreat in the Belial oneshot really can’t be used for much other than confirming that outside of a small duration of the day Meliodas is stronger than mael. This is because realistically the only reason for Mael to fight Meliodas alone would be so the other angels can escape. It’s simply too much of a risk for him to stall out their fight until noon or conversely try to take Mel out before his power sinks below mels since it’s not just his life on the line. Not only that but even if he did take Mel out somehow then he’d likely be injured enough that even a small fry like Belial could take him out. Mind you this is also prior to Mel turning good so it would be a far worse blow to stigma than losing Mael was due to gowther’s meddlings.

Plus if Meliodas drove Mael off by virtue of just being that much better than Mel would’ve been able to kill him before any of the other archangels could reach him since we know Mael only ended up there by chance on his patrols implying he was not doing whatever it is the archangels normally do. That or the others sent him on ahead because they were unaware Meliodas was going to show up thus it would justify Meliodas only driving Mael off since he’d run the risk of being outnumbered and overpowered if the others were near