Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Darklord#10]

One of the most retarded logic I've also seen is Misaki is stronger than suzaku because she was not affected by ignia's heat. Suzaku was right in front of the source of the heat lmao how is he not going to be affected. But I guess some people have dyslexia

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Only if we use your logic.

Which logic? I'm just repeating what that clown said

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Only if we use your logic.

I'm curious to know if you think misaki is stronger than suzaku or Erza laxus and gildarts are human acnologia level. I'm also curious to know why you think suzaku not being able to damage dog is antifeat, there's no proof the other slayer knights to can damage him so how's that an anti-feat? I agree with Eileen being stronger than suzaku but how's suzaku not being able to damage dog=Eileen being stronger?

 

[Sevently]

I'm curious to know if you think misaki is stronger than suzaku or Erza laxus and gildarts are human acnologia level. I'm also curious to know why you think suzaku not being able to damage dog is antifeat, there's no proof the other slayer knights to can damage him so how's that an anti-feat? I agree with Eileen being stronger than suzaku but how's suzaku not being able to damage dog=Eileen being stronger?

None of them are on the level of human Acno, except for human Selene (slightly inferior due to Acno magic)
Misaki is on the same tier as Suzaku. If Suzaku is stronger, it's only by a small margin and not by a significant amount.

It's an antifeat because that confirms that Selene was playing all that time and she wasn't even serious against him.
Suzaku is not even close to Human Selene level, he's on Gildarts level same as the others BDSK. Eileen > Gildarts

 

[Darklord#10]

None of them are on the level of human Acno, except for human Selene (slightly inferior due to Acno's magic)
Misaki is on the same tier as Suzaku. If Suzaku is stronger, it's only by a small margin and not by a significant amount.

It's an antifeat because that confirms that Selene was playing all that time and she wasn't even serious against him.
Suzaku is not even close to Human Selene level, he's on Gildarts level same as the others BDSK. Eileen > Gildarts

Fair enough. You know what I actually think like you in this case except for the antifeat part. I also actually think the gap between the slayer knights isn't that much. If it's much it'll be completely stupid? We can agree on that right? Misaki saying she's only ever gotten serious against kirin is the same as suzaku saying that he's never fought anyone as strong as human selene because there's George who is way stronger than the knights. We can agree on that right?

 

[GL_Nova]

A BIG DIFFERENCE is Irene wasn't serious either. She was far from using her full power in her human let alone dragon. Some of y'all act like Irene went all in that exchange, while Acnologia didn't. Jellal did peform better against Acnologia, but means nothing since he was considered an ant while Irene used 2 basic spells and got praised. He couldn't "one shot " her canonically but apparently he can.

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Manga: Kirin> Misaki> Suzaku> Haku
The only reason Suzkau has better feats because he was the only used to hype up the BDSK.

Cope.

Better argument. She knew turning into a dragon and revealing that, would be a death sentence.

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None of them are on the level of human Acno, except for human Selene (slightly inferior due to Acno magic)
Misaki is on the same tier as Suzaku. If Suzaku is stronger, it's only by a small margin and not by a significant amount.

It's an antifeat because that confirms that Selene was playing all that time and she wasn't even serious against him.
Suzaku is not even close to Human Selene level, he's on Gildarts level same as the others BDSK. Eileen > Gildarts

It's not an anti-feat. He took all those blows and kept fighting. He scales to that.

 

[WoWfan]

Cope.

Better argument. She knew turning into a dragon and revealing that, would be a death sentence.

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It's not an anti-feat. He took all those blows and kept fighting. He scales to that.

She confirmed that she played Suzaku so she can get to their master.

 

[LaGOAT]

Lol again funny how kirin>misaki

But laxus isn’t stronger than erza because of their fight as if laxus didn’t get a power up lol

Also the Irene wank is crazy acno giving her a compliment about her magic power is cool and all but that’s doesn’t mean much if acno was a lil more serious she would have gotten the GS treatment . I mean acno didn’t praise igneel does that mean Irene>ingeel?

 

[WoWfan]

Lol again funny how kirin>misaki

But laxus isn’t stronger than erza because if their fight as if laxus didn’t get a power up lol

Also the Irene wank is crazy acno gave her a compliment about her magic power is cool and all but but that’s doesn’t mean he acno was a lil more serious she wouldn’t have gotten the GS treatment . I mean acno didn’t praise igneel does that mean Irene>ingeel?

Acno hates dragons though, he didn’t know Irene was a dragon, and they talk back and forth too.

 

[LaGOAT]

Acno hates dragons though, he didn’t know Irene was a dragon, and they talk back and forth too.

My point is acno is in another galaxy compare to Irene and the rest of the FT verse minus igneel and DGs. if he tired she would have gotten the same treatment. I’m also saying the complement shouldn’t have carry much weight since in general it isn’t that much of a feat

 

[grey matter]

I'm curious to know that if you still think Suzaku is above the level of BDSK and Human Selene, despite being unable to do anything against a much weaker Dogra?

Dude stop asking me, I give you the reasons all the time and you simply ignore, then repeat the question
Human Selene admitted it herself. He cut her and had her bleeding buckets.

And let's assume for the sake of argument that Selene threw even in worst case scenario, cause apparently you guys want to ignore manga and claim "Selene lied".
How would that even remote imply Suzaku being weaker than Eileen? Cause human Selene >>>> Eileen anyway.

All we need here is to compare Eileen's feats vs Suzaku's feats, even aside from Selene feats:

- x792 Erza held her own against Human Eileen, AFTER Wendy went down. x792 Erza + Wendy combo took Eileen to her limits. x792 Erza with DS magic one shotted Dragon Eileen

- x793 Erza >> x792 Erza

- Suzaku one shotted x793 Erza and x793 Natsu back to back in seconds. x793 Natsu and Erza as a combo >>> x792 Erza + Wendy

It isn't hard to put these together. Suzaku destroys Eileen.

My point is acno is in another galaxy compare to Irene and the rest of the FT verse minus igneel and DGs. if he tired she would have gotten the same treatment. I’m also saying the complement shouldn’t have carry much weight since in general it isn’t that much of a feat

It's pointless.
Eileen fans ignore anything inconvenient to them and ignore manga. And massively stretch anything that paints her in positive light

Most slimy and dishonest fandom I've ever seen in fiction, holy shit man. What simping does to MFers

 

[Darklord#10]

Dude stop asking me, I give you the reasons all the time and you simply ignore, then repeat the question
Human Selene admitted it herself. He cut her and had her bleeding buckets.

And let's assume for the sake of argument that Selene threw even in worst case scenario, cause apparently you guys want to ignore manga and claim "Selene lied".
How would that even remote imply Suzaku being weaker than Eileen? Cause human Selene >>>> Eileen anyway.

All we need here is to compare Eileen's feats vs Suzaku's feats, even aside from Selene feats:

- x792 Erza held her own against Human Eileen, AFTER Wendy went down. x792 Erza + Wendy combo took Eileen to her limits. x792 Erza with DS magic one shotted Dragon Eileen

- x793 Erza >> x792 Erza

- Suzaku one shotted x793 Erza and x793 Natsu back to back in seconds. x793 Natsu and Erza as a combo >>> x792 Erza + Wendy

It isn't hard to put these together. Suzaku destroys Eileen.




It's pointless.
Eileen fans ignore anything inconvenient to them and ignore manga. And massively stretch anything that paints her in positive light

Most slimy and dishonest fandom I've ever seen in fiction, holy shit man. What simping does to MFers

but but SHE GOT HYPED BY TWO god TIERS. AND SHE WAS CALLED MONSTER WITH HUGE MP. i mean i kind of agree that eileen is probably stronger than suzaku. but i do not understand how suzaku failing to damage dog means he s weaker than eileen. There is nothing in the manga that says eileen is as strong as a dg. if she was mashima would have pointed it out. igneel who is dead was hyped up by the dgs as the strongest dragon before acno. Mashima has consistently potrayed igneel at that level. if eileen was at that level he would have done so. and i also do not understand how selene saying eileen has huge mp means she's stronger than suzaku. however i do agree that selene threw the fight

dogramag is a dragon god he maybe the weakest but that should put him above eileen. mehn eileen gets folded by any Dg

 

[WoWfan]

Dude stop asking me, I give you the reasons all the time and you simply ignore, then repeat the question
Human Selene admitted it herself. He cut her and had her bleeding buckets.

And let's assume for the sake of argument that Selene threw even in worst case scenario, cause apparently you guys want to ignore manga and claim "Selene lied".
How would that even remote imply Suzaku being weaker than Eileen? Cause human Selene >>>> Eileen anyway.

All we need here is to compare Eileen's feats vs Suzaku's feats, even aside from Selene feats:

- x792 Erza held her own against Human Eileen, AFTER Wendy went down. x792 Erza + Wendy combo took Eileen to her limits. x792 Erza with DS magic one shotted Dragon Eileen

- x793 Erza >> x792 Erza

- Suzaku one shotted x793 Erza and x793 Natsu back to back in seconds. x793 Natsu and Erza as a combo >>> x792 Erza + Wendy

It isn't hard to put these together. Suzaku destroys Eileen.




It's pointless.
Eileen fans ignore anything inconvenient to them and ignore manga. And massively stretch anything that paints her in positive light

Most slimy and dishonest fandom I've ever seen in fiction, holy shit man. What simping does to MFers

Yet she healed up nicely, she clearly said that she did it so she could get to their master. Suzaku is weaker simply because he is as powerful as the other DDKs who Wendy defeated and who Irene’s magic power is greater than Wendy’s and would harm ner if she uses it. Erza had Irene’s enchantment powering her up that she could hold her own, DS is anathema to Dragons, plus her already powered up state it would still affect Irene like any other dragon, but Irene still stood in the end. Erza had no durability when she fought Suzaku and could still react, and then she defeated Misaki who is Suzaku’s level. And Natsu survived the same attack that supposedly did Selene in. That alone would show that Selene played them for a fool. Irene managed to dodge even a serious human Acno as point blank right underneath her feet. Jellal could dodge Dragon Acno’s breath and Dragon Forms even when not serious are already a tier or more above their serious human states.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Dude stop asking me, I give you the reasons all the time and you simply ignore, then repeat the question
Human Selene admitted it herself. He cut her and had her bleeding buckets.

And let's assume for the sake of argument that Selene threw even in worst case scenario, cause apparently you guys want to ignore manga and claim "Selene lied".
How would that even remote imply Suzaku being weaker than Eileen? Cause human Selene >>>> Eileen anyway.

All we need here is to compare Eileen's feats vs Suzaku's feats, even aside from Selene feats:

- x792 Erza held her own against Human Eileen, AFTER Wendy went down. x792 Erza + Wendy combo took Eileen to her limits. x792 Erza with DS magic one shotted Dragon Eileen

- x793 Erza >> x792 Erza

- Suzaku one shotted x793 Erza and x793 Natsu back to back in seconds. x793 Natsu and Erza as a combo >>> x792 Erza + Wendy

It isn't hard to put these together. Suzaku destroys Eileen.




It's pointless.
Eileen fans ignore anything inconvenient to them and ignore manga. And massively stretch anything that paints her in positive light

Most slimy and dishonest fandom I've ever seen in fiction, holy shit man. What simping does to MFers

People who love and Erza both know that's was probably her most BS fight in the series. So using that fight as a power scaling for Irene doesn't make much sense. Unless all the BDSK including Laxus and Erza have surpassed Irene and August Suzaku isn't stronger than her. The strongest of the BDSK was compared to Gildarts who got whooped by August( even that fight was plot since the "Wizard King" mostly goes with hand to hand combat when fighting). August also tanked Gildars strongest attack.
Weakened Erza > Dragon Irene >>> Human Irene > Erza( amped). Let's not also forget Wendy was pulling asspulls left to right as well in that fight. Also what makes you think Human Selene > Irene anyway?

 

[Darklord#10]

Human Selene > Irene anyway

Because it's facts

 

[Garmadooon]

100YQ was a mess with the power of Irene and Selene.
Hiro says that Irene is one of the strongest in the original series.
Suzaku can One Shot Erza and Natsu casually. Irene couldn't One Shot Wendy and Erza but she won in an extreme diff.

Then Suzaku "matched" Selene in combat (I prefer to say that because we argue about the fact that Selene lied). Selene should be stronger than Irene, she has enlarged the moon and she can travel dimensions, she is multicontinental level, Irene is only continent level.
And Selene actually reacted to Suzaku and blitzed him while Irene got blitzed by Wendy.
Then Irene defeated someone supposedly "equal to Suzaku".
And Laxus who is equal to Erza (he needed all his MP to beat her) defeated someone "stronger than Suzaku"(By stealing his magic at the last moment)

So all that to say that Mashima doesn't give a fuck anymore, he'll do fights for comedy and the cool side, he doesn't have a power scale.

 

[FireIce]

According to Mashima: Irene >>>>> (100x) Wendy > Haku = Suzaku >>>> Erza > Misaki = Suzaku > human Selene = human Acno >>>> Irene = August >> Gildarts = DDSK

 

[WoWfan]

According to Mashima: Irene >>>>> (100x) Wendy > Haku = Suzaku >>>> Erza > Misaki = Suzaku > human Selene = human Acno >>>> Irene = August >> Gildarts = DDSK

Specifically it is human Acno > human DG > August/Irene > Gildarts => DDK

 

[Darklord#10]

@Sevently @WoWfan

give me your honest opinion about this. What do you think ? Good or bad or not worth paying attention to

 

[Sevently]

@Sevently @WoWfan

give me your honest opinion about this. What do you think ? Good or bad or not worth paying attention to

Mashima loves Erza too much to let her lose a fight.

 

[WoWfan]

Mashima loves Erza too much to let her lose a fight.

Yeah, It's just one of those moments to just show off how ridiculous her will power is.

 

[Darklord#10]

Yeah, It's just one of those moments to just show off how ridiculous her will power is.

Who has more will power her or natsu?

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I've seen people who have defended this because she's Erza. I mean what is there to defend. It's pretty obvious mashima didn't care about the sixth sense explanation