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Aha. Changing the subject because you know you have nothing for my response. By the way, I never talked about knowing what a 'good story' is. Whatever the fuck that even means.maybe when you stop washing Rei's nut sack and start seeing how inept he has been since they introduced his character,, then maybe you can talk about how you know what a good story is. according to you Baam needs to be some sort of super evil genius that takes control of his own destiny by ruining gustang's plans. khun literally did that with rei but some how "rei has got this"
ugly on this insideI disagree. She's definitely ugly on the inside though.
Maaaaaybe the latter. I will not ever believe that Arlene Grace is as ugly as Rachel though.
Rachel isn't ugly. She thinks she is, but its not her fault that all the women who throw themselves at baam are unicorns
I disagree. She's definitely ugly on the inside though.
So was arlene
The whole exchange in question. I never confirmed or denied anything about Arlene vs Rachel, other than that I think Rachel is a butt ugly bitch both above and beneath her skin, as she's had more than ample opportunities to put on display throughout the webtoon. We know little about Baam's mother beyond what second hand sources claim her to be responsible for having done to his corpse.We'll see. Pretty much everything about Arlene is speculative at this point.
no, no it is not, we know arlene locked baam in the cave, we know she put something inside her babies corpse, we learned this in FoD arc.We'll see. Pretty much everything about Arlene is speculative at this point.
Nobody's throwing insults here. I'm a bit surprised. Usually it's already devolved into that and I just laugh and get their posts deleted.Guys stay civil please.
I disagree, you called me a Rachel apologist and that is deeply offensive coming from someone who thinks Rei is a capable FH. I am just shocked you would say something so outrageous and your post should get deleted immediately. My word, Rei a competent Family head? how absurd! the audacity of your posts!Nobody's throwing insults here. I'm a bit surprised. Usually it's already devolved into that and I just laugh and get their posts deleted.
If that's a label that offends you then congratulations. You've managed to improve my opinion of you. I deeply apologize.I disagree, you called me a Rachel apologist and that is deeply offensive
If we leave this arc and he's actually gotten dog walked by Gustang, then I'll concede the point.My word, Rei a competent Family head?
I didn't say none of that. I said that coming from someone that thinks Rei is any good at his Job, it is offensive. Rachel happens to be the single most important antagonist of the story, without her ToG wouldn't exist. Baam would still be locked in a cave not knowing what is is to have friends.If that's a label that offends you then congratulations. You've managed to improve my opinion of you. I deeply apologize.
Gustang has been forced to personally intervene against him twice now. The first time was a general failure (Traumerei secured Baam and brought him to the Lo Po Bia Mothership) and this one is still up in the air. Traumerei has yet to really even bother to acknowledge him. Meanwhile, Gustang had a few Lo Po Bia Rankers fall into his lap due to a plan conceived and carried out by other people and was able to deal accordingly with them. It's something, but not something overly consequential. Gustang sent Matte and Tiara in, and neither of them succeeded at doing much of anything beyond making noise. And we still have whatever Lobadon is up to out somewhere that hasn't been revealed.I didn't say none of that. I said that coming from someone that thinks Rei is any good at his Job
nobody "forced" gustang to do jack. gustang had this all planned out. a FH attacking another family heads base is a big deal yet rei was too focused on losing in the Nest that he didn't see it coming. Khun tricked rei. a c rank regular tricked a FH. inept. Gustang sent matte and tiara with Khun and khun got gustang to Baam. gustang also killed Rei's top BH. making noise indeed, the noise of rei's family bursting into flames. I mean how many of Rei's people did Yas kill with the bomb? Rachel has a great plan, better than Rei's 1000 fold. Rei gave up everything for Baam, Rachel gave up Baam for everything. She actually outsmarted Khun, something Rei thinks he did.Gustang has been forced to personally intervene against him twice now. The first time was a general failure (Traumerei secured Baam and brought him to the Lo Po Bia Mothership) and this one is still up in the air. Traumerei has yet to really even bother to acknowledge him. Meanwhile, Gustang had a few Lo Po Bia Rankers fall into his lap due to a plan conceived and carried out by other people and was able to deal accordingly with them. It's something, but not something overly consequential. Gustang sent Matte and Tiara in, and neither of them succeeded at doing much of anything beyond making noise. Meanwhile, we still have whatever Lobadon is up to out somewhere that hasn't been revealed.
So no, I don't think Traumerei is as completely inept as most of the room believes him to be. At worst, things are at a stalemate when most of the moves have been made by Gustang. He'll make his own move eventually. It might fail, it might succeed. We'll see.
And doesn't really seem to have gotten much out of it, all things considered. Still ugly, still weak. And not really liked by anyone, anywhere aside from maybe Yura. She'd have done better just to stick with Baam, and will probably have to swallow that bitter truth by the end of it all.Rachel gave up Baam for everything.
she got 3 wishes to be granted by gustang. if she stuck with baam they would be on like the 30 floor or some sh!t. she nearly killed khun, something rei threatened to do. fact of the matter is, Rachel is a better tactician than Rei. Rei wants Baam soo much. what did that get him? gustang killing a good majority of his family. oh and gustang is about to take baam. but I am sure, this is all part of rei's master plan. giving his enemies everything they could ever want. brilliant. much brave...And doesn't really seem to have gotten much out of it, all things considered. Still ugly, still weak. And not really liked by anyone, anywhere aside from maybe Yura. She'd have done better just to stick with Baam, and will probably have to swallow that bitter truth by the end of it all.
Faustian bargains seldom pay good rewards.
I don't rule out that he could lose to Kirin, but you are arguing that he isn't the strongest person in the room.
- Baam can't access all those powers on command
- And even with his Dark Change Mode, he may still lose to the likes of Kirin
- Baam wasn't being polite to Jinsung; he said that if he fought White now, the result will be different.
- SIU has had Baam admit inferiority to Cc tier fighters (Jinsung and White respectively) on two separate occasions since absorbing Leviathan
- You can't just ignore that because it contradicts your headcanon of current Baam being super strong
- Current Baam simply isn't CC tier
Ever heard of a monkey's paw? I really hope you don't believe that Gustang is actually going to grant those wishes in a way that lets her make hay from them. She's affiliated with a cabal of losers who want to obliterate the Ten Families, Gustang included. And you'd best believe he knows about it.she got 3 wishes to be granted by gustang.
don't forget JH was still recovering from his injuriesHonestly, it's hard for me to believe that either Irregular is planning on taking Baam, and using him to kill the other. For Gustang especially it makes little sense,
I don't rule out that he could lose to Kirin, but you are arguing that he isn't the strongest person in the room.
1st, between thorn Baam and his all out version without berserker mode there is still an abyss, you are arguing that he can't do the things he could do at the last station ?
2nd, if the limiting factor is his willingness to lose control, kill his opponent, it should still be on the table when his friends are about to get killed in front of him
3rd, it's bold to assume any BH there is CC tier when Purdidy didn't exactly stomp Jinsung and he was the strongest one with WgW and Perseus.
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Gustang gave FUG the thorn frag or did you just happen to forget that? Gustang and FUG have a common goal. Killing Zahard.Ever heard of a monkey's paw? I really hope you don't believe that Gustang is actually going to grant those wishes in a way that lets her make hay from them. She's affiliated with a cabal of losers who want to obliterate the Ten Families, Gustang included. And you'd best believe he knows about it.
Why is that? When has any Floor Test been able to even remotely challenge Baam or the people around him? If anything, they might be higher than the team is now due to dealing with less extracurricular nonsense.if she stuck with baam they would be on like the 30 floor or some sh!t.
And who benefitted from that? It wasn't Rachel. Gustang is not in a partnership with FUG. He is using FUG, and will cast them aside the moment it suits his convenience. I personally think that depends on Baam's success or lack thereof in making the group his.Gustang gave FUG the thorn frag or did you just happen to forget that? Gustang and FUG have a common goal. Killing Zahard.
Rachel made a devil's bargain with FUG in exhange for power. She is very capable of using people to get what she wants. she has done this to great effect.Why is that? When has any Floor Test been able to even remotely challenge Baam or the people around him? If anything, they might be higher than the team is now due to dealing with less extracurricular nonsense.
And who benefitted from that? It wasn't Rachel. Gustang is not in a partnership with FUG. He is using FUG, and will cast them aside the moment it suits his convenience.