Games Mafia Game 112 - Panda Game - End Game

[Shad]

Mafia was really onto Tatsu, and if she‘s some sort of Mentor or SK we will know if we have 2 kills without a night without kills. So while the possibility is there, it sounds best to first get mafias. Then if we get 2 kills again without a night without kills, then we can expect legit a TP.

Not if you believe the poisoner idea which is why I was upset the only possible mentor was first to say it and you went with it so casually.

I'm not saying she is mentor, I'm saying there is shit load of red flags, if we misslynch today that another double kill the following night and we are back to losing.

Also this role is broken, with a normal role I would be the lynch today to stating the obvious.

Sorry, Night, good luck with your hunt.

@Tatsumaki claim, town or no town, don't block DD from posting, if you have any info share it now.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Then DD claimed doc before day end and got targeted for a kill, unless you are saying mafia knew he wasn't, so wait for his post to know if he was targeted directly or no, I bet you didn't expect the RS.

DD claimed bodyguard on D3 and RS on D2. .

How is it possible that DD and GB are poisoned when were both super suspect the phase before?

Only one of them was poisoned, the other died on N3. Mafia knew they were town anyway and could be sitting on good roles. So they poisoned one, probably GB. And last night went for me directly but DD was protecting me, or for DD himself but I don't think that would be the case.

You been on mafia radar since D2.

Erinyes:
Made a case about you only and voted you.

SirSam:
Said he would rather vote you but to save himself he doesn't mind voting on GB who had few votes.
He called you out for being TP

James (My current pick for last mafia):

Linked his detective claim to you, claimed you and SirSam had different results, and mentioned you being TP.
Mafia can't win against mentor if only 1 of them is left, so their numbers matter a lot, so the 2 remaining linking their claim to hopefully get the TP lynched profits both of them.

James said he had same results for me and Sam.
Your whole reasoning is based on false things.

 

[Shad]

DD claimed bodyguard on D3 and RS on D2. .

DD claimed again in D3

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Only one of them was poisoned, the other died on N3. Mafia knew they were town anyway and could be sitting on good roles. So they poisoned one, probably GB. And last night went for me directly but DD was protecting me, or for DD himself but I don't think that would be the case.

Oh mafia kills who they know are town? Let me note this wisdom.

Mafia kills confirmed townies and townies about to ruin their day like GB mortician result or DD claimed doctor, you don't poison DD because you know he is town, while he is usually 3rd lynchable person until he claimed doctor

 

[GrySun]

Not if you believe the poisoner idea which is why I was upset the only possible mentor was first to say it and you went with it so casually.

I'm not saying she is mentor, I'm saying there is shit load of red flags, if we misslynch today that another double kill the following night and we are back to losing.

Also this role is broken, with a normal role I would be the lynch today to stating the obvious.

Sorry, Night, good luck with your hunt.

@Tatsumaki claim, town or no town, don't block DD from posting, if you have any info share it now.

All I‘m wondering is, why no 2 kills N1 or N2?

Poisoner fits because N2 no kills, N3 2 kills.

TP would mean 3 kills were failed in total no? 1 on N1, 2 on N2.

That‘s a lot of failed kills.

I don‘t think we‘re that close to losing to 2 parties if they failed 3(!) kills and we only mislynched 1/3 times. No failed daykills etc either.

So what I‘m saying is, let‘s continue off of finding Erin and Sam‘s teammates.

 

[Tatsumaki]

DD CLAIMED BODYGUARD. @Shad

Indeed

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I am the restless spirit!

I AM BODYGUARD! TWAS I WHO PROTECTED THE TOWNIES.

No reason to hide your role today, I can bodyguard you guys, I can even tank a strongman.

Well I got one shot of bodyguard left.

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Or quote me the posts where he claimed doc then.

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So what I‘m saying is, let‘s continue off of finding Erin and Sam‘s teammates.

Yeah I'm apparently marked anyways and I do not want to spend the day on this, it would be fruitless.

 

[GrySun]

And sorry Shad, I didn‘t want it to come across as a „stfu“, just as a „let‘s focus on mafia“ and „let‘s not base our thoughts on a confirmed mafia‘s trolling“. It‘s true that there are Samuel-unrelated ways to view Tatsu unfavorably but this may distract us too much at this point.

 

[Shad]

All I‘m wondering is, why no 2 kills N1 or N2?

Math questions I leave to you.

@Tatsumaki

Alright so I got the doctor, doctor has someone else.

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But would the game really be bulletproof doctor prostitute and bodyguard? its not adding up

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And sorry Shad, I didn‘t want it to come across as a „stfu“, just as a „let‘s focus on mafia“ and „let‘s not base our thoughts on a confirmed mafia‘s trolling“. It‘s true that there are Samuel-unrelated ways to view Tatsu unfavorably but this may distract us too much at this point.

Is it insignificant to the point of ignoring?

 

[GrySun]

Also James had same result on Tatsu and Samuel. Depending on what he found last night, he will either confirm Tatsu as non-town or continue as a Paranoid 3-use Det.

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Mafia kills confirmed townies and townies about to ruin their day like GB mortician result

Actually, does this mean there are mafias among players who claimed active role and that they previously targeted a dead player? GB could‘ve removed their disguises.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Also James had same result on Tatsu and Samuel. Depending on what he found last night, he will either confirm Tatsu as non-town or continue as a Paranoid 3-use Det.

Both dets had two guilty results actually.
James got guilty on both Sam and me.
Holt had guilty on both Shad and DD.
Sooooo

 

[Shad]

Don't let me distract you guys, figure out the last mafia.

I will wait to see what James flip to see if M.doctor is needed, if he flips mafia that will clear your case tatsu.

Actually, does this mean there are mafias among players who claimed active role and that they previously targeted a dead player? GB could‘ve removed their disguises.

You mean James, yeah, but he will say it a frame, and maybe it is, can't be sure of anything but it still likely James

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Will read your discussion later, bye

 

[GrySun]

Math questions I leave to you.

@Tatsumaki

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Is it insignificant to the point of ignoring?

He „got the Doctor“ as in „he has got the Doc covered“. With his protection.

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Is it insignificant to the point of ignoring?

For today at least yes, it should be something to keep in mind but not main focus. I want gloves, red ones.

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Both dets had two guilty results actually.
James got guilty on both Sam and me.
Holt had guilty on both Shad and DD.
Sooooo

Holt is Insane, James Paranoid?

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So Shad you believe last mafia to be James, TP Tatsu?

What about Sam saying „gl teammates“ in plural? If you wanna believe Sam on Tatsu believe him on him having min 2 members.

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Who is even still alive?

1. Gry - Hider/IC 3 spice
2. Shad - Jesus/Banshee 0 spice
3. James - Det/redacted 0 spice
4. Holt - Det/Townie 3 spice
5. Baka - Noble/Healthy or Healthy/Noble no clue atm
6. Gajeel - fishy Apprentice/fish Schrödinger spice levels
7. Tatsumaki - Doctor and something, don‘t remember, am on phone bothersome to check
8. Brandish - double Necro - 0, 1 or 2 spice depends

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I must admit I find all 8 to be town to a plausible level. Gajeel is most confusing but could just be a distraction.

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Hopefully James/Holt make matters easier. I‘d like to believe only 2 reds remaining, but it‘s weird.
@Gajeel any assistance in solving this?

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Am surprised by town‘s utter lack of kill roles. Only Banshee that may never activate due to D1 claim.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Who is even still alive?

1. Gry - Hider/IC 3 spice
2. Shad - Jesus/Banshee 0 spice
3. James - Det/redacted 0 spice
4. Holt - Det/Townie 3 spice
5. Baka - Noble/Healthy or Healthy/Noble no clue atm
6. Gajeel - fishy Apprentice/fish Schrödinger spice levels
7. Tatsumaki - Doctor and something, don‘t remember, am on phone bothersome to check
8. Brandish - double Necro - 0, 1 or 2 spice depends

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I must admit I find all 8 to be town to a plausible level. Gajeel is most confusing but could just be a distraction.

Healthy townie is my passive.
Well my trusted townies are you, baka and Shad. For all the others I wouldn't bet my hand on them.
Don't believe we have 2 dets tho.

edit: typo

 

[GrySun]

Healthy townie is my passive.
Well my trusted townies are you, baka and Shad. For all the others I wouldn't bet my hand on them.
Don't believe we have 2 dets tho.

edit: typo

What? We have 2 healthy townies huh. There were 2 sicklies but on roles that don‘t really wanna use spice on the Sickly half. Odd design.

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Why you trust Baka despite having your role?

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Without conspiracy hat on, I say town are me, Tatsu, Shad, Baka, Brandish.

james, gajeel and holt would then house our red crafting material.

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I‘ll take a break to do other things that need doing, I expect EU people to awake and assist in solving the game.
It‘s most fun to do this stuff together after all~

 

[Tatsumaki]

Why you trust Baka despite having your role?

Yes it doesn't seem farfetched to me. That's also why I was on the side that belived there was a mafia sickly too.

 

[GrySun]

I'm a bad doctor I get it.

However I do NOT understand this sudden turnaround Shad. Why and How would I be mentor ?

Who was your target?

Maybe also recap of last days.

Same to everyone else.

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Hmm James was perhaps sicklied by Sam? For credibility?

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Ok no, gotta go

 

[Brandish μ]

Interesting

Sams dramatic mentor distraction play is too obvious that you might think it's a reverse psych. Good job

Gonna wait for James and Holt

 

[GrySun]

Situation is either:
1 red(Janitor + Mafia Mason)
1 TP

or

2 red(Janitor + Mafia Mason AND Mafia Poisoner + ???)

I just remembered Marm was Mason and no other Masons came out. So it was all along a 2-masons starting group.

James would fit the profile of Mafia Mason. His Det is useless, and he is one of the few Marm voters that's not a town. Though this could apply to Gajeel as well.

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So @Tatsumaki and @Holt are the only ones that haven’t hinted yet I think? Unless I missed it. According to Erins data.
Do you guys want to share a little bit about yourself?

This post probably excludes Tatsu and Holt as her Mason teammate.

 

[James Rye]

I checked Holt last night and got guilty for him as well. I am at zero spice. If you want to lynch me to check if I really am det, I'm fine with that. Maybe I should have used my last det on either Gry or Shad after all.

 

[GrySun]

I checked Holt last night and got guilty for him as well. I am at zero spice. If you want to lynch me to check if I really am det, I'm fine with that. Maybe I should have used my last det on either Gry or Shad after all.

Claim your Aigoo. Mafia would know your sanity by your D2 reveal so if you're useless they're never killing you anyway.

 

[James Rye]

Claim your Aigoo. Mafia would know your sanity by your D2 reveal so if you're useless they're never killing you anyway.

Fine.
I'm the 2nd Mason. Mason/Detective.
It's why I first voted Tatsu over Marm and would have stayed on Tatsu until Marm claimed "investigative" role and suddenly Tatsu got a whole bunch of votes on her which made me paranoid about Marm being a M.Det. Thus I voted for Marm after all just to learn that Panda did put a spy and a det into a mason team. Mason was my "social" hint but with Marm gone the social aspect of being confirmed that way has been taken away from me due me and others distrusting Marm.

I know that seems as I am M.Mason/M.Det which is why I am fine with being lynched. But if I had been scum I would have left my Mason partner alive as I could find out their role later plus they could have believed me being townie and thus support me in the game.

I hinted at being BP because I wanted to use my dets without being killed. And a BP/Det made sense to me since the high spice costs means he is pretty useless after three uses. Still am, lol.

I don't believe Tatsu to be scum. If she was it would mean I managed to hit three scum in a row. Sure Tatsu being doc/traitor would be interesting mix or Holt being det/death miller but in the end with 2 mafia already dead, that doesn't seem that plausible to me. After all they should have a Janitor, Poisoner and likely a Mafia Boss as well. At least with the Strongman/sickly and Escort/M.Doc mix.
What is strange to me is the M.Doc.
Like what role do we have to have Mafia consider using a M.Doc to protect themselves? Nobody seems to be PGO and considering the few deaths we had until now, a TP party or even a 2nd Mafia team can't really be the case either. For Mentor it would mean they were either blocked night 1 to be forced to recruit night 2 to be able to kill in night 3. For SS we got way too many active roles to actually build up an illusion followership. No gifts means no Santa. And a 2nd Mafia would have been extremely unlucky until night 3.

But I leave this to Gry and Shad to figure out. If they wanna lynch me to make sure I ain't scum, I support that decision as well. At least you won't have to be afraid of me blowing somebody up.^^