Fantasy Natsu vs White Out PoF Erza

[Darklord#10]

this has happened before man. even the owl did severe damage to gray after eating natsu in heaven arc.

mishma does this sh!t all the time. but at the end nothing seems to change

Bro he got oneshot by base natsu flames. There's no coming back from that. What do you mean it doesn't change anything? It changes everything. He barely did anything before that fight. He didn't fight serious opponents like erza and jellal. He on panel got one shot by a flame kick. To give you a reference duke blocked a base kick by natsu. Like are you freaking trolling right now.
Wait what do you think would happen if Mashima-sensei draws jellal vs laxus. Who do you think wins?

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one of the main the reason this manga will remain sh!t

If the manga is shit y r u reading it then? Like how can the manga be shit if it does a common shounen trope? So what you're saying is naruto bleach one piece dragon ball fire force black clover are all shit. Like what kinda logic is this ?

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agree. but then we have confusion is when is natsu stronger than gildarts or erza? where do we draw the line while keeping our bais in check
natsu taking out the final boss and nakama nonsense is the main reason this manga has become crap. great world, sh!t everything else

There's no line. Df natsu beat people stronger than erza and Gildarts. Therefore he s stronger than them. Period. Anyone who refuse to believe this is a clown. Why the fuck are you complaining about natsu's nakama nonsense when erza does the same shit as him. There's a reason why you think pof erza is stronger than gildarts.

. Like this is according to Mashima-sensei who the strongest dragon slayers were one year ago. By your logic Irene struggled heavily against characters weaker than even historia Serena?? Do you see how stupid this is

 

[Garmadooon]

good point but
base natsu though strong was weaker than gildarts. who was weaker than august. gildarts would be around human irene level. why would natsu df give him a bigger jump than irene completely transforming into a dragon

human irene > base natsu
dragon irene > df natsu

Because Natsu in this form is capable of eliminating people stronger than him. While Dragon Irene, not only is she inferior to Zeref in her base form but she also gets trashed by POF Erza with broken bones.

i agree. but then we have confusion is when is natsu stronger than gildarts or erza? where do we draw the line while keeping our bais in check
natsu taking out the final boss and nakama nonsense is the main reason this manga has become crap. great world, sh!t everything else

Can you read my message in context? I said that Natsu is stronger than these two in this circumstance where he has to surpass himself and beat a public danger. This is the very definition of his Dragon Force.

If for you this manga is shit just for that reason I am very sorry. You should take more pills.

when have i wanked erza or her oppoenents. erza due to story nonsense is above normal natsu. and you agree with this.
irene is august equivalent and misaki was compared to kirin. these are all manga facts.

what more wank have i done?

You wanked the Dragon Irene over August even though there is no manga evidence for that. You wanked Dragon Irene above Igneel in a parallel world where Erza is the MC. Just like Laxus fans wanked Kirin above other BDSKs when his feats put him below Suzaku and only slightly above Misaki. Or when Laxus stans spewed shit like "Elexion is Igneel level". Yes I put your two fanbases in the same bag. The Irene/Erza wanking is a problem on this forum just like the Laxus' cult who reigns supreme here is a problem and I put you in the exact same bag because you spend your time downplaying Natsu and Suzaku so that your Laxus and Erza are even more beautiful and stronger than they should be.

 

[Darklord#10]

You wanked the Dragon Irene over August even though there is no manga evidence for that. You wanked Dragon Irene above Igneel in a parallel world where Erza is the MC. Just like Laxus fans wanked Kirin above other BDSKs when his feats put him below Suzaku and only slightly above Misaki. Or when Laxus stans spewed shit like "Elexion is Igneel level". Yes I put your two fanbases in the same bag. The Irene/Erza wanking is a problem on this forum just like the Laxus' cult who reigns supreme here is a problem and I put you in the exact same bag because you spend your time downplaying Natsu and Suzaku so that your Laxus and Erza are even more beautiful and stronger than they should be

He also said kyoka is stronger than mard geer. He also said Minerva=>jura

 

[sharkai]

Bro he got oneshot by base natsu flames. There's no coming back from that. What do you mean it doesn't change anything? It changes everything. He barely did anything before that fight. He didn't fight serious opponents like erza and jellal. He on panel got one shot by a flame kick. To give you a reference duke blocked a base kick by natsu. Like are you freaking trolling right now.
Wait what do you think would happen if Mashima-sensei draws jellal vs laxus. Who do you think wins?

alverzec natsu without pof is >>> alverzec gildarts
because he can access df at will

yet two three arcs later gajeel doesnt want to lose to natsu? this is worst sh!t than lissane not wanting to lose laxus. so yes, natsu was clearly shown superior to likes of gildarts in alverzec arc. but no one seems to treat natsu like that even now

naruto bleach one piece dragon ball

fairy tail could have reached these manga level if somethings were fixed.

There's a reason why you think pof erza is stronger than gildarts.

i dont think erza is stronger than gildarts. just like i dont think natsu is stronger than erza

but if you are talking about a particular pof like vs irene than yes that pof erza is above gildarts. just like There's a reason why you think pof natsu is stronger than erza.

Because Natsu in this form is capable of eliminating people stronger than him. While Dragon Irene, not only is she inferior to Zeref in her base form but she also gets trashed by POF Erza with broken bones.

pof erz with broken bones is eliminating people stronger than her.

this argument of yours does not prove that dragon irene would be weaker than alverzec df natsu

Can you read my message in context? I said that Natsu is stronger than these two in this circumstance where he has to surpass himself and beat a public danger. This is the very definition of his Dragon Force.

If for you this manga is shit just for that reason I am very sorry. You should take more pills.

i think you should get off the pills

You wanked the Dragon Irene over August even though there is no manga evidence for that.

false. i rank dragon irene around august. irene having more brute power and august has more hax

You wanked Dragon Irene above Igneel in a parallel world where Erza is the MC.

i repeat get off the pill. if we are following shounen troupe than duh, if erza is MC, erza mom would be stronger than secondary character dad. that is not even wank. its sh!tting on shounen troupe that is all.
o God if erza was the MC, everything would be about requip magic

You wanked the Dragon Irene over August even though there is no manga evidence for that. You wanked Dragon Irene above Igneel in a parallel world where Erza is the MC. Just like Laxus fans wanked Kirin above other BDSKs when his feats put him below Suzaku and only slightly above Misaki. Or when Laxus stans spewed shit like "Elexion is Igneel level". Yes I put your two fanbases in the same bag. The Irene/Erza wanking is a problem on this forum just like the Laxus' cult who reigns supreme here is a problem and I put you in the exact same bag because you spend your time downplaying Natsu and Suzaku so that your Laxus and Erza are even more beautiful and stronger than they should be.

you literally could not give one example of wank. again tell me when i have wanked

did i say irene is stronger than igneel?
did i say irene is stronger than august?
hell did i even say erza is stronger than laxus?

He also said kyoka is stronger than mard geer. He also said Minerva=>jura

dude repeating this just makes you look retarded. you know people have ability to ask me what i believe

 

[Darklord#10]

yet two three arcs later gajeel doesnt want to lose to natsu?

Okay why did gajeel lose to god serena and natsu beat someone stronger than god serena. No pof no dragon force

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alverzec natsu without pof is >>> alverzec gildarts
because he can access df at will

yet two three arcs later gajeel doesnt want to lose to natsu? this is worst sh!t than lissane not wanting to lose laxus. so yes, natsu was clearly shown superior to likes of gildarts in alverzec arc. but no one seems to treat natsu like that even now





fairy tail could have reached these manga level if somethings were fixed.



i dont think erza is stronger than gildarts. just like i dont think natsu is stronger than erza

but if you are talking about a particular pof like vs irene than yes that pof erza is above gildarts. just like There's a reason why you think pof natsu is stronger than erza.



pof erz with broken bones is eliminating people stronger than her.

this argument of yours does not prove that dragon irene would be weaker than alverzec df natsu



i think you should get off the pills



false. i rank dragon irene around august. irene having more brute power and august has more hax



i repeat get off the pill. if we are following shounen troupe than duh, if erza is MC, erza mom would be stronger than secondary character dad. that is not even wank. its sh!tting on shounen troupe that is all.
o God if erza was the MC, everything would be about requip magic



you literally could not give one example of wank. again tell me when i have wanked

did i say irene is stronger than igneel?
did i say irene is stronger than august?
hell did i even say erza is stronger than laxus?




dude repeating this just makes you look retarded. you know people have ability to ask me what i believe

Bro what the hell do you mean could have reached those levels? Luffy takes out all the boss every single time over 1000+ chapters. Naruto is ninja Jesus and he fights boss characters. Goku was the one who defeated jigen when he and Vegeta got clapped. Ichigo fought kenpachi and byakuya in same Arc. Shinra takes out the main villain in almost every arc. It's the same shit with boku no hero. Natsu beating the boss villain is just a classic trope.

Natsu is stronger than Erza Base of the fact that he beat opponents stronger than Erza. Period. Neither August nor Irene were actually put down after the fight. Natsu actually incapacitated zeref that he actually couldn't move.

Yeah just jealous because igneel gets more rep than Irene.

Dude I can literally go and find where you said kyoka is stronger than mard geer. I can find where you said Irene is as strong as acnologia. I can find every single wank you've made.

Bring me a feat that puts POF Erza above DF natsu.

The definition of retardation is thinking natsu and gray/gajeel are at the same level. Natsu went toe to toe with suzaku, fought nerfed dogramag in base, overpowered nerfed human dogramag in base, was straight up eating his blows. No matter how nerfed dogramag was he is not weaker than god serena....god serena smoked gajeel. Gray on panel got one shot by freaking natsu's flames.

 

[sharkai]

Okay why did gajeel lose to god serena and natsu beat someone stronger than god serena. No pof no dragon force

feat wise natsu is far above gajeel

Bro what the hell do you mean could have reached those levels? Luffy takes out all the boss every single time over 1000+ chapters. Naruto is ninja Jesus and he fights boss characters. Goku was the one who defeated jigen when he and Vegeta got clapped. Ichigo fought kenpachi and byakuya in same Arc. Shinra takes out the main villain in almost every arc. It's the same shit with boku no hero. Natsu beating the boss villain is just a classic trope.

sure but delivery can improved.

Natsu is stronger than Erza Base of the fact that he beat opponents stronger than Erza. Period. Neither August nor Irene were actually put down after the fight. Natsu actually incapacitated zeref that he actually couldn't move.

feat wise natsu is far above erza

Yeah just jealous because igneel gets more rep than Irene.

no lol

Dude I can literally go and find where you said kyoka is stronger than mard geer. I can find where you said Irene is as strong as acnologia. I can find every single wank you've made.

no you cant. or you have to ignore some fuking context. i dont believe kyoka is stronger than mard. and no i dont believe irene is stronger than aconolgia. the best i have for irene is she is the only non god tier character who might be able to hurt aconlogia. that is best hope i have for her

Bring me a feat that puts POF Erza above DF natsu.

POF Erza vs Dragon irene. she overpowered dragon irene strongest move and did significant damage to her, she also blasted rot aconlogia across the sky. this is above anything gildarts has shown.
thus next in line after alverzec df natsu.

if zeref is weaker than august and irene, than POF erza at that moment could be said to be stronger than df natsu. though i wont bet on it

The definition of retardation is thinking natsu and gray/gajeel are at the same level. Natsu went toe to toe with suzaku, fought nerfed dogramag in base, overpowered nerfed human dogramag in base, was straight up eating his blows. No matter how nerfed dogramag was he is not weaker than god serena....god serena smoked gajeel. Gray on panel got one shot by freaking natsu's flames.

take the issue with mishma. he is the one pushing it. suzaku is nothing special. he is a normal foot soldier, between Haku and Misaki/Kirin.

"fought nerfed dogramag in base, overpowered nerfed human dogramag in base, was straight up eating his blows. "
this can be attributed to shounen trope. laxus and gildarts were also not shown doing these things

"No matter how nerfed dogramag was he is not weaker than god serena....god serena smoked gajeel"
god serena was shown around jellal level. that would be mean mishma most likely believe he is above base natsu as well

grey has been getting short end of the stick in 100 year quest lol. wonder what mishma thinks of him now

 

[FireIce]

Natsu would stomp the guild with the move he used to beat Aldoron.

The votes are way too close.

I wrote this on March 14, 2023... This still stands lmao. Natsu keeps outclassing Erza arc after arc.

 

[Darklord#10]

I wrote this on March 14, 2023... This still stands lmao. Natsu keeps outclassing Erza arc after arc.

Sharkai still crying because igneel shits diff Irene bro can't accept that Irene is one shot material for the king. He been crying since 100 years quest was thought into existence and he still crying . Six years of crying

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Sharkai still crying because igneel shits diff Irene bro can't accept that Irene is one shot material for the king. He been crying since 100 years quest was thought into existence and he still crying . Six years of crying

he the king and the strongest for a reason lharkai. I ain't the one writing the manga . It's not my fault that Irene is an ant in front of the king

 

[Darklord#10]

@MyaHeart35 @ShadowHeart . What's that about Erza being stronger than natsu? Or is motherglare comparable to a full power dragon god?
I remember natsu no diffing aldoron

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu produces a fire raider 1000 times more powerful than a FDK Punch :
No, as you point out, the fire raider that destroys the whole city is due to the death of Aldoron God Seed by repercussions to the destruction of the seal, as the death of Doom producing the same effect. Unless you explain to me how the fire pillar can be maintained while Natsu’s attack has stopped the front page. Natsu has just produced enough power to disintegrate the Seed, as Jellal did with his for example. I think Raiko could do the same as result for exemple.

Hahaha the anime really destroyed your point . I can't believe you actually said that the blast wasn't natsu's doing. Most obvious thing ever.
Now you're the one that has to explain to us how that happened. Erza fans really thought that Erza who couldn't beat laxus was somehow superior to a character who beat zeref and a somewhat weakened aldoron. Like what manga was u reading.

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Hahaha the anime really destroyed your point . I can't believe you actually said that the blast wasn't natsu's doing. Most obvious thing ever.
Now you're the one that has to explain to us how that happened. Erza fans really thought that Erza who couldn't beat laxus was somehow superior to a character who beat zeref and a somewhat weakened aldoron. Like what manga was u reading.

@Ronin31 I know you don't want to admit you're wrong LMAO.