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Your thought process is too simple. Hard to believe it‘s lack of time and not being scum that motivates you to not look too deep.
Nah I can see mafia leaving the roles alive based on mht count as my quote below. I am a keep it simple person generally and I'm not here writing walls

The mech does fuck the thinking up in some respects. The roles run out and they don't know how many mentals people have coz if Evil is telling the truth he did not care to look at Gry or Sam so unless he lied and those he tested are true and mafia do not know Sam and Grys values unless they are mafia. I have not kept record on this topic and it's confusing.

There's several plotlines I need to read more
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Mason business is Mason business :hmph Either I’m the recruiter or the Mason. :hmph

But the press release is that we are not connected to Vandred. idk if that helps your reasoning Gry but you know my way of speaking
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@Marmalade why did you bid 6 on your EVA? This allows spying only a single time? Would town Marm even do this?
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Eva status:
  1. Gry since N1
  2. Baka since N1, pickable now
  3. Unpicked D1. Unknown pilot since N2. Did not use sickly N2. Perhaps was mafia‘s killer that night instead?
  4. Marm since N1. Pigeon pilots it now.
  5. Sam since N1
  6. Lawl N1, unknown scum mafia who spent all their points to get it and ejected immeditely N2, Demonspeed N3
  7. Evil since N1
  8. Pigeon since N1. Marm pilots it now
  9. Vand N1, Vand N2, Unknown Pilot N3
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Key takeaways here:
  • 3 is most certainly on a mafia. We know that he has exactly 5 mind. Everyone had 9 mind on the day the person bid the mech. Maths say he bid exactly 2 mind. N2 had 7, did not sickly. Lost 1 to decay at start of D3. N3 had 6, sicklied me. Lost 1 to decay ar start of D4. Has 5 mind and Noble voted Sam.
  • Possible pilots of 3 are: James, Misha, Cres, Bran, Erin. Everyone else either had a mech, has a different one now, or had too few points(Tatsu).
  • If Evil can be trusted, James has 7 mind right now. So scratch James from the list above. He also found no mech on Misha N2. So scratch Misha off. Cres either was recruited and is town, or is Recruiter mech herself. So scratch Cres.
  • Maybe Tatsu was the one who tried to bid on killing mech? Would explain why someone would bet all and get insta booted out - She didnt anticipate Pigeon stealing again from her, so she immediately booted out. This would make Sam refueling her extra suspect, as this allows her to bid on mechs again. Her not admitting to having had the killing mech would make her mafia.
  • Marm bid a lot, enough to make sure most others dont get Spy, while even denying the powerful role to herself. As if she doesn‘t care for it at all -> mafia
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@Brandish μ thoughts? If my logic and maths hold, Sickly/Noble mech is either on you or Erinyes. One of the two of you is mafia.
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I cannot vote but propose a lynch on either Erin or Brand, based on the above.
 

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Lawl N1, unknown scum mafia who spent all their points to get it and ejected immeditely N2, Demonspeed N3
Can you please explain whats the mafia play here?

Lmao Gry, I've seen better days by you
 

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Can you please explain whats the mafia play here?

Lmao Gry, I've seen better days by you
As both town and mafia it makes no sense. The reason I peg it a mafia move, is because a town would admit to it and claim it.

And from my post above, Tatsu could be the mafia, who got stolen points from Pigeon same night she entered the mech, lost it all and got booted out.

If you‘re truly town get out of the tunnel now
 

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Spoiler: Eva's
i have a question, how come both Gry is sicklied and Sam has a anon vote when the eva mech here clearly said it's on different days has this been asked? Ohhh just when writing it i got it, exactly between the two mentals, so next day only anons, good.
 

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i have a question, how come both Gry is sicklied and Sam has a anon vote when the eva mech here clearly said it's on different days has this been asked? Ohhh just when writing it i got it, exactly between the two mentals, so next day only anons, good.
So we know that pilot has 5 mind now. I calculated above, it is either Erin or Brand.
 

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Amd @crecent jinx you are like a mason you claimed which is like the silliest thing, good for you but until the recruiter comes out and vouches for you it has little meaning. And BTW the recruiter isn't even even confirmed town, except it's Demon, so that's really not something to fall back to.

If they are dead next day by trying recruit mafia, we can talk again, nows too soon to put y'all green
 

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@Brandish μ thoughts? If my logic and maths hold, Sickly/Noble mech is either on you or Erinyes. One of the two of you is mafia.
Think the math is mathing. Can it also determine wtf Cres is?

I'd rather not have an eva, than be that Eva.

Understand your proposed lynch, and sickly noble is not me.
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I'd rather not have an eva, than be that Eva.
I do acknowledge no one actually wanted this D1 lmao
 

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Graduation finished and piss sunk 😵 Will catch up once I pick up my dindins and get back to my apartment
 

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Can it also determine wtf Cres is?
Only if I knew more info, like how much others tried to bid on recruiter mech.

But logic would say that Cres only blurted out “i‘m mason“ because she got recruited.
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I'd rather not have an eva, than be that Eva.
What else did you try bidding on in the last days?
 

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If you‘re truly town get out of the tunnel now
Too hard. The only agreeable thing i read from you all game is that Sam lynch is too risky at this point.

BUT YOU COULD ALSO BE SAYING THIS AS A MAFIA IN A TEAM PLAY.

Anyways, the Jinx info is not too bad now that I think about it, sounds like recruiting happend just tonight and saying it right away is fair. If Marmalade is to be believed this can't be the Van recruitee bc he didnt do anything. Then again it's sussy marmalade saying that who could be covering jinx with her story and trying to establish a new trusted core by backing each other up
 

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Too hard. The only agreeable thing i read from you all game is that Sam lynch is too risky at this point.

BUT YOU COULD ALSO BE SAYING THIS AS A MAFIA IN A TEAM PLAY.

Anyways, the Jinx info is not too bad now that I think about it, sounds like recruiting happend just tonight and saying it right away is fair. If Marmalade is to be believed this can't be the Van recruitee bc he didnt do anything. Then again it's sussy marmalade saying that who could be covering jinx with her story and trying to establish a new trusted core by backing each other up
Then let me engage you differently.
  1. Do you think the sickly+noble person is a town?
  2. Do you think whoever temporarily entered killing mech on D2 and exited at end of N2, is town?
  3. Why do you think anyone would do the above regarding the killing mech? Could it be related to getting their mind stolen, or simply a mistake after two days of being able to read and understand the mechanic?
  4. Why would the above person not admit they did the oopsie with the killing mech?
  5. Do you think it fits town Marm to have bid a lot on Spy mech to the point she could only spy a single time?
  6. Do you think Pigeon would steal twice from Tatsu if he was mafia? Or if he was town?
  7. Assume a mafia took Mason Recruiter mech, who would be the most mafia beneficial target to recruit? Is Cres beneficial to recruit for mafia? Or does this target showcase a town Recruiter?
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Anyone who isn‘t Evil3ye, feel free to go through this gauntlet of questions above too.
 

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What else did you try bidding on in the last days?
D1 EVA06, 1 coin after I realised how the mech worked

D2 EVA06, 4 coins

D3 no bets. Forgot about it.

So myself and James have a full bag of coins at 7 if we trust Evil. If I trusted him enough I'd agree to bidding one coin or whatever it would be to get Baka's slots and sanity... mafia would then need to guess which of us got it
 

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Im plain town i have 0 eva
Very interesting. I thought one of you two would claim the mech, but whoever did would have 0 ways to explain why they didn‘t sickly on N2.

So in your eyes, Brandish should be mafia. In Brandish‘ eyes, you would be mafia.

Where does that leave the rest of us? Frankly atm I‘m not sure which of you two is more trustworthy.
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This Erin vs Bran hinges on Evil being town and not lying, since his results exclude James and Misha. Could be a fatal mistake but at this point we have to commit to something, can‘t keep listing all possibilities forever.
 

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Very interesting. I thought one of you two would claim the mech, but whoever did would have 0 ways to explain why they didn‘t sickly on N2.

So in your eyes, Brandish should be mafia. In Brandish‘ eyes, you would be mafia.

Where does that leave the rest of us? Frankly atm I‘m not sure which of you two is more trustworthy.
Im really plain town, a demotiated and busy one,

Based on his actions/votes so far if its only me vs him its definitely him.
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This Erin vs Bran hinges on Evil being town and not lying,
But yeah as i said earlier the ones who killed Baka reason was likely to prevent her to determine her sanity, the ones who could benefit from her kill are Demon and evil
 

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Im really plain town, a demotiated and busy one,

Based on his actions/votes so far if its only me vs him its definitely him.
Well, do you trust Evil? If yes, then it can only be the two of you.
And Bran‘s „darn this dastardly sickly noble guy confusing me“ would be an act.

I was plenty demotivated myself, but lets try and keep going for at least 1 correct lynch for once. If you have the time, do please participate.
 

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But yeah as i said earlier the ones who killed Baka reason was likely to prevent her to determine her sanity, the ones who could benefit from her kill are Demon and evil
That‘s true, but then again even if they are town, mafia benefits from us not knowing for sure with a 3rd result. And the 3rd result could‘ve also been on a mafia, and people pick the side of evil and demon, and lynch this 3rd result mafia.

So benefits to removing the Det are plenty, regardless what Evil and Demon are.
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Oh then check the votes
You didnt leave yourself open for much votes checking by voting the same player, who is still alive with unknown alignment.

Bran voted town every single time and they were lynched, but that isn‘t necessarily a 100% mafia tell. Or even a 10% mafia tell. Depends on a lot of factors, but trying to lynch and being wrong isn‘t unlike town.

So I‘m still on the fence. But my vote was disabled by you or him, so I‘m not the one that needs convincing, but the other players.
 

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I get the votes hold no favour for me but there's no way I'm sick noble. Even on the mafia team I would not bid for it.
 
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