Hangout Tower of God Hangout & Q/A Thread

[Lonatian]

Weird thought, perhaps the blue thrysa came from the floor which blossom burned? With how much damage she caused and her fire seemingly burning even concepts maybe it caused a fraction of the administrator to split from it.

Isn't BT what we see in the flashback? When GWs were young?

 

[kkck]

Isn't BT what we see in the flashback? When GWs were young?

Yeah but it appeared as a future evil or something like that. However as far as we know it's also a fragment of an administrator. Which considering the origin of the red thryssa is specially weird.

 

[Sanity Check]

Weird thought, perhaps the blue thrysa came from the floor which blossom burned? With how much damage she caused and her fire seemingly burning even concepts maybe it caused a fraction of the administrator to split from it.

Blue Thryssa

The Blue Thryssa (푸른 바리, Buleun Bali) is an unknown organism inside Twenty-Fifth Baam that resembles the power of the Administrator.[2] The exact origin of the Blue Thryssa is currently still unconfirmed and rather vague, but Author SIU had stated that, this "Fake Being" is some "Mind Being"...

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[Strange]

someone posted this at reddit and i'd love to post this one here :

Child-killer once he tried and did
he tried to kill him again but failed
he also tried to kill khell hellam but failed
he lost bracelet
he lost baam
he lost himself
he lost his brain LoL
call himself a king yet sits on a throne where he has nothing to do just wan#ing

The most propaganda men literally in TOG history

poor Big Z he is hiding in his chamber afraid of ppl like enryu penta or urek will visit him one day and kick his ass
he goes against children always and against his comrades hell forget he cannot even go against even gustang poor thing , gstang has eurasias flame who can fry poor zahards ass

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and used his all powerful needle to kill some weakling
the guy also ain't even capable to use fists lol

 

[Shinwonryu]

Zahard is very reminiscent of Paul Atreides or Eren Yeager, the trope of a God King’s consciousness being tortured in another plane of existence as he is blinded by his own perceived control over fate.

I’m a big fan of said trope. He and the other FHs do not seem evil. I can’t wait to see why the rejection mindbroke him.

Maybe going up another floor would have destroyed all life in the tower, or maybe it would have been suicide for the GWs. Only Zahard knows and that’s what changed him.

 

[arrowofsky]

Maybe going up another floor would have destroyed all life in the tower, or maybe it would have been suicide for the GWs. Only Zahard knows and that’s what changed him.

I believe this is a bit of a stretch, but I am pro-FUG

 

[seNzor1337]

Z has his own Revolution inside the Rice Pot. Dark side exposed or made visible to the conscious mind. It has to work that way in order for Shinsu black hole skills to become unlocked. It is about incorporating the shadow self and emerging as a transcendent being. Z's rivalry with V feeds his inner monster. To make matters worse, the girl he has a crush on chooses V over him. This rejection traumatised him in the same way as with Traumerei. Thus converting him into a control freak and power hungry tyrant. Once all possible reconciliation with Arlene and V becomes impossible, only goal left to pursue is absolute power.

Perhaps Arlene choosing V over over Z had to do with V's rejection of the IC? We know now that the IC also helped dull or reign in the negative emotions or rather emotions regarded as "weak"; compassion, empathy, guilt, remorse. Maybe she noticed( just like Ameuz) Z changing so much over time and she didn't like that.

Who knows, for the sake of drama, perhaps Z and Arlene were initially into each other and the IC had a lot to do with their falling apart. We also know that both had similar earrings.That would somewhat vindicate Zahard, although only ever so slightly.

Gustang himself said that V was the absolute worst person ever. Maybe he was a homewrecker?

 

[arrowofsky]

Z has his own Revolution inside the Rice Pot. Dark side exposed or made visible to the conscious mind. It has to work that way in order for Shinsu black hole skills to become unlocked. It is about incorporating the shadow self and emerging as a transcendent being. Z's rivalry with V feeds his inner monster. To make matters worse, the girl he has a crush on chooses V over him. This rejection traumatised him in the same way as with Traumerei. Thus converting him into a control freak and power hungry tyrant. Once all possible reconciliation with Arlene and V becomes impossible, only goal left to pursue is absolute power.

Perhaps Arlene choosing V over over Z had to do with V's rejection of the IC? We know now that the IC also helped dull or reign in the negative emotions or rather emotions regarded as "weak"; compassion, empathy, guilt, remorse. Maybe she noticed( just like Ameuz) Z changing so much over time and she didn't like that.

Who knows, for the sake of drama, perhaps Z and Arlene were initially into each other and the IC had a lot to do with their falling apart. We also know that both had similar earrings.That would somewhat vindicate Zahard, although only ever so slightly.

Gustang himself said that V was the absolute worst person ever. Maybe he was a homewrecker?

Though I have no idea when Gustang himself said that V was the absolute worst person ever, you may be interested with the post below:

 

[Sky is blue]

Though I have no idea when Gustang himself said that V was the absolute worst person ever, you may be interested with the post below:

Gustang told baam in floor of death that his father was the absolute worst person he has ever met.

Lots of people use this fact as support to theory that baam is zahard's son (since for gustang, zahard should be the worst person; he sealed his daughter and destroyed his marriage and probably even thier friends group).

 

[Lonatian]

Gustang told baam in floor of death that his father was the absolute worst person he has ever met.

Lots of people use this fact as support to theory that baam is zahard's son (since for gustang, zahard should be the worst person; he sealed his daughter and destroyed his marriage and probably even thier friends group).

Zahard has no son. SIU said that in Q&A.

Q: Is the throne inherited? Is there no Zahard’s Prince? Or does the strong Princess will ascend the throne? (11/05/2010)

A: Zahard had never have a son. Since the likelihood for Zahard’s death is zero, he does not need to think about succession.

 

[seNzor1337]

Adult Data Zahard harbours noble feelings and recognizes earnest wishes.He spared Bam in the HF.
I believe Current Zahard does aswell since he initially let Traum handle Bam in the hope of swaying him from the purpose FUG had given him. If it is true that all that was good and fair in Zahard got discarded and thrown in the Red Dump and the current Zahard is a fake, that so-called fake is still left with some semblance of humanity. Kind of reminds me of White showing pitty to Kallavan when his army corps got obliterated by Lyborick.
I believe Bam doesn't want to kill any FH after learning the real history in Gustang's book. Not even Zahard. V will not take kindly to that since he has been brought back as a vengeful spirit and the spell that bound him to Baams body is fueled by resentment.But he still somewhat apologised in advance for hijacking Baams body in order to save him from Disconnection. So he might still retain some of his gentle demeanor. But going back on his goal of ending Jahad is non negotiable due to the nature of the spell. So we might have a nasty conclusion to that whole affair in the end

 

[Headon134]

Hi, I have one question that I haven't figured out the answer: If nobody has reached the top of the tower (because Zahard and 10FD closed it) then why is it said that rankers are granted a wish at the end? Who grant this wish?

 

[Lonatian]

Hi, I have one question that I haven't figured out the answer: If nobody has reached the top of the tower (because Zahard and 10FD closed it) then why is it said that rankers are granted a wish at the end? Who grant this wish?

If I remember correctly, the concept here is that everything you're looking for is at the top of the tower.
That doesn't grant the wish.
I believe Headon, the administrator who chose the regulars to climb the tower, is the one who stated it. And everyone will take it as a fact.

 

[Demonspeed]

If I remember correctly, the concept here is that everything you're looking for is at the top of the tower.
That doesn't grant the wish.
I believe Headon, the administrator who chose the regulars to climb the tower, is the one who stated it. And everyone will take it as a fact.

There should be more to it. To this day, Towerborns still enter with some kind of goal even though they know you can't reach the true top. Zahard probably gives you something specific depending on your objectives.

 

[seNzor1337]

Yet another one of Headon's shenanigans. Zahard gets the rear in the end while the former deepthroats every single new climber

 

[kkck]

Ok, I just conflated a series of statements in the series:

1.- Rachel told bam something like arlen said he was a monster meant to devour the tower.

2.- Aubryon made the point that the tower was set up to nurture someone. It was phanta's will to take it all.

3.- The way mago used to recover her power was by killing ascetics over and over and feed of their despair.

4.- We have seen a ball of energy within bam when he uses revolution. Some people refer to it as a sun. We have seen that this sun can assimilate the powers or things within bam such as when he devoured all the souls which bam had from white.

So I have some thoughts here.

The first is that what rachel says appears to be a terrible fit with the supposed fate bam has with V. Bam was supposed to become not a savior of the tower but rather a vessel of revenge. But devouring the tower is doesn't exactly fit here. Even if you don't care about the tower devouring everything does not exactly get you revenge. By all appearances V's death was a premeditated move by him and arlen for him to call for reinforcements and return via bam. However arlen's later rejection of bam if we go by rachel's words just... doesn't fit. I think this evidences the plan going wrong, perhaps even being highjacked by the dark god which arlen supposedly made a deal with. And since V was dead as this early stage of the plan failed he can't know about it.

I've usually not taken the energy ball within bam particularly seriously and just treated it like a mass of bam's power or a representation of it but seeing mago fed of negative emotions like that... just kinda clicked. Setting aside that mago was far more efficient than bam in getting power (bam fed of billions of souls for the power we have seen while mago became a threat for family heads while feeding of the emotions of a few jackasses) looking at this what I am wondering if the energy mass is actually light as wielded by the shining ones. Slowly feeding as bam climbs the tower... Of course in this scenario aubryon's statement about the tower being meant to nurture a massive being is more literal than it seems and by extension far more offputting.

 

[Demonspeed]

I was wondering, with the reveals about the Tower and Phanta's orders, are there people who still believe that Zahard and his companions are from another world? Because interdimensional travels for all of this seems weird to me.

 

[kkck]

I was wondering, with the reveals about the Tower and Phanta's orders, are there people who still believe that Zahard and his companions are from another world? Because interdimensional travels for all of this seems weird to me.

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. Isn't the outside a different dimension/world from the tower?

 

[Demonspeed]

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. Isn't the outside a different dimension/world from the tower?

The theory was that the GWs weren't born in the same world as the one where Darkness was at the beginning of everything.

 

[kkck]

The theory was that the GWs weren't born in the same world as the one where Darkness was at the beginning of everything.

Oh, ok. No idea. Maybe different stories count as different outsides. Or the outside is vast enough to accomodate for multiple stories in a single dimension. It could be vast enough that the great warriors simply weren't even adjacent to urek and phanta. I think this is unknowable for now.