Football 2014 FIFA World Cup - Part 1

[Sky]

Do you think?

Are you kidding with me? THAT would be a scandal.

I do think that way yeah. In terms of football quality we are way above you.

I can imagine. If the best referee was in charge Fred wouldn't get away with his dives.

 

[Hardy]

Do you think?


Are you kidding with me? THAT would be a scandal.

This crap again man

I'd say that our ref has been prolly one of the best in the WC but we are in the SFs so he's out (that, and him being the ref in a Br match would had been hilarious).

 

[Leoat12]

I do think that way yeah. In terms of football quality we are way above you.

I can imagine. If the best referee was in charge Fred wouldn't get away with his dives.

It is just theory until we get into the field.

Now that Neymar was pursued and injured (the fouls upon him were just dives after all) the next target is Fred? Do as you please, except knee in his back, please.

I'd say that our ref has been prolly one of the best in the WC but we are in the SFs so he's out (that, and him being the ref in a Br match would had been hilarious).

We know that you guys want to pick us in the final, this referre would favor us.

 

[Sky]

It is just theory until we get into the field.

Now that Neymar was pursued and injured (the fouls upon him were just dives after all) the next target is Fred? Do as you please, except knee in his back, please.

Nope this isn't a theory. Neymar was the source of your offense, now you have nothing left apart from the power to fight. That might be a problem sure, but if we just look at the quality, we are better on almost every position.

I won't discuss this with you. Fred dived in the first match, that is a fact. Furthermore why target a striker who is completely useless on the field? I just hope your defenders won't hurt Müller or Hummels. We need them in the final against Argentina or the Netherlands.

Brazil made the most fouls in this tournament and you still play the victim... Wow.

 

[Leoat12]

Nope this isn't a theory. Neymar was the source of your offense, now you have nothing left apart from the power to fight. That might be a problem sure, but if we just look at the quality, we are better on almost every position.

I won't discuss this with you. Fred dived in the first match, that is a fact. Furthermore why target a striker who is completely useless on the field? I just hope your defenders won't hurt Müller or Hummels. We need them in the final against Argentina or the Netherlands.

Brazil made the most fouls in this tournament and you still play the victim... Wow.

That's your opinion.

Don't worry. We do normal fouls of the match. We didn't injury anyone so far unlike our opponents.

There were invented fouls and the fact that we are also the team that suffered more fouls. Brazil is the host team and one of the favorites, the matches tend to be hotter and it's the referee responsability maintain the control of the match. Unfortunately, refereeing was poor so far. I really hope a good referee this time, we already said that we don't need to be favored but, apparently, referees is still afraid of doing their work in Brazil's matches.

 

[Sky]

Everyone who knows a bit about football knows that this is true. Not a matter of opinion.

You are butthurt. Stuff like this happens. He didn't injure Neymar on purpose. This is Football and not chess. Players get injured. Ask Marco Reus.

You had a good ref with Webb. Just because you still can't understand that Hulks goal was indeed hand doesn't make him bad. Especially because you don't even know the guy.

Again I stated facts. I don't know why you have such a problem with them.

 

[xi0]

By the book, a knee in the back that causes vertebral fracture is red card. Again, absurd criteria.

That wasn't a red card

There were invented fouls and the fact that we are also the team that suffered more fouls.

Come on dude, they have the most fouls even without even having some pretty crucial ones left uncalled...

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Teams getting fortunate with calls is an inevitability, but to be in complete denial of it to the point of saying the opposite is the case...come on

 

[Leoat12]

Everyone who knows a bit about football knows that this is true. Not a matter of opinion.

You are butthurt. Stuff like this happens. He didn't injure Neymar in purpose. This is Football and not chess. Players get injured. Ask Marco Reus.

You had a good ref with Webb. Just because you still can't understand that Hulks goal was indeed hand doesn't make him bad. Especially because you don't even know the guy.

Again I stated facts. I don't know why you have such a problem with them.

According to many people here Colombia would win upon us with 100% sure, but it didn't happen, quite the opposite. Also, soccer is awesome because the theory not always is true. Costa Rica is the perfect example of this World Cup. Obviously, you cannot compare Costa Rica with Brazil, there is no favorite in this match (though I expect Brazil wins, obviously, I'm brazilian after all). After the match that we can say for sure who is better, before this, it is just bet or speculation.
When I said that Thiago Silva would play the final, I was joking, a healthy provocation. You should face jokes more naturally, instead of facing it as "arrogance". I provoke Argentina here quite often and you don't see Hardy with this butthurt.

His movement was not natural. Certainly you never saw any player doing what he did, coming from behind that way. I have my doubts that it was not intentional.

It was not just that play, there were others. His perfomance was poor as a whole.

Because they're not facts.

 

[Googlez_kun]

The only thing I disagree with is that "Stuff like this happens." The referee messed up. He didn't have the match under control. You could do anything and get away with a yellow card, if at all. That was horrendous. That's what lead to Neymar's injury. That stuff doesn't just happen. That's not football.

 

[Leoat12]

The only thing I disagree with is that "Stuff like this happens." The referee messed up. He didn't have the match under control. You could do anything and get away with a yellow card, if at all. That was horrendous. That's what lead to Neymar's injury. That stuff doesn't just happen. That's not football.

Finally a german with some sense!

Note for Sky-senpai: It was a joke.

 

[xi0]

The only thing I disagree with is that "Stuff like this happens." The referee messed up. He didn't have the match under control. You could do anything and get away with a yellow card, if at all. That was horrendous. That's what lead to Neymar's injury. That stuff doesn't just happen. That's not football.

Yeah, but no one said the officiating was to the standard it should have been. I think most of us are aware that Neymar's injury happened because the game was out of control. That being said, it doesn't mean that the foul in question was a red card.

 

[Sky]

According to many people here Colombia would win upon us with 100% sure, but it didn't happen, quite the opposite. Also, soccer is awesome because the theory not always is true. Costa Rica is the perfect example of this World Cup. Obviously, you cannot compare Costa Rica with Brazil, there is no favorite in this match (though I expect Brazil wins, obviously, I'm brazilian after all). After the match that we can say for sure who is better, before this, it is just bet or speculation.
When I said that Thiago Silva would play the final, I was joking, a healthy provocation. You should face jokes more naturally, instead of facing it as "arrogance". I provoke Argentina here quite often and you don't see Hardy with this butthurt.

His movement was not natural. Certainly you never saw any player doing what he did, coming for behind that way. I have my doubts that it was not intentional.

It was not just that play, there were others. His perfomance was poor as a whole.

Because they're not facts.

Then say you hope that they will win. Expecting them to win by default... Dunno that sounds like an austrian fan expecting his team to win the world cup.

Did I say it was no foul? I didn't! Of course it was a foul but he didn't want to injure Neymar like that. That is just bs man. I saw lots of fouls like that btw, thank you. Because, you know, I actually watch football more than just once every 4 years.


That is your opinion and pretty much yours alone. Everyone else in the world knows that he had an outstanding match and was by far the best ref so far.

They are. I mean come on you still deny the fact that Fred dived and Hulk controlled the ball with his hand.

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The only thing I disagree with is that "Stuff like this happens." The referee messed up. He didn't have the match under control. You could do anything and get away with a yellow card, if at all. That was horrendous. That's what lead to Neymar's injury. That stuff doesn't just happen. That's not football.

Yeah i already said that. But this is what the FIFA wanted by giving those orders to the refs. Almost no tactical foul was honored with a yellow card and if you also follow the Bundesliga you should've expected way more yellow cards too. Not completely the refs fault, also fault of the FIFA.

 

[Googlez_kun]

Yeah, but no one said the officiating was to the standard it should have been. I think most of us are aware that Neymar's injury happened because the game was out of control. That being said, it doesn't mean that the foul in question was a red card.

I'm not saying it was a red card or anything. Just wanted to comment on the mentality of 'well shit happens in football'. Though I admit I haven't thoroughly followed the conversation, so maybe he didn't mean it that way.

 

[xi0]

I'm not saying it was a red card or anything. Just wanted to comment on the mentality of 'well shit happens in football'. Though I admit I haven't thoroughly followed the conversation, so maybe he didn't mean it that way.

Well shit does happen, it doesn't mean it's fair or in this case, what should have happened. But yeah...

 

[Sky]

Well crap the ref will be the one who overlooked Suarez biting Chiellini, didn't give a penalty for Cavani and gave a wrong red card for Marchisio...
I just hope he will be derping around for both sides.

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I'm not saying it was a red card or anything. Just wanted to comment on the mentality of 'well shit happens in football'. Though I admit I haven't thoroughly followed the conversation, so maybe he didn't mean it that way.

I didn't mean it that way.

 

[Hardy]

I saw lots of fouls like that btw, thank you. Because, you know, I actually watch football more than just once every 4 years.

I don't agree. How often you see someone jump like he did, when there's no chance to win the ball, and with the knee up? 1 in 1000 matches, and every time with a bad intention. It was malicious imo. He obviously didn't want to injure Neymar, just hit him I guess.

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Well crap the ref will be the one who overlooked Suarez biting Chiellini, didn't give a penalty for Cavani and gave a wrong red card for Marchisio...

Marchisio deserved a red card tho.

As long as there's no bites there should be no problem.

 

[Leoat12]

Brazil vs. Germany referee will be Marco RODRIGUEZ from Mexico.

 

[xi0]

I don't agree. How often you see someone jump like he did, when there's no chance to win the ball, and with the knee up? 1 in 1000 matches, and every time with a bad intention. It was malicious imo. He obviously didn't want to injure Neymar, just hit him I guess.

You have to keep in mind that refs don't have access to slow-motion replays. I don't think it was malicious-looking in slow-mo or in real-time, honestly.

 

[Hardy]

You have to keep in mind that refs don't have access to slow-motion replays. I don't think it was malicious-looking in slow-mo or in real-time, honestly.

He's jumping directly to Neymar with his knee up. He clearly wanted to hit him. He prolly just wanted to get a foul there so Brazil wouldn't get a counter attack, you see that often.

I know that refs don't have slow-mos, I'm not saying that the ref was bad nor anything. But it was a red card.

 

[xi0]

He's jumping directly to Neymar with his knee up. He clearly wanted to hit him. He prolly just wanted to get a foul there so Brazil wouldn't get a counter attack, you see that often.

I know that refs don't have slow-mos, I'm not saying that the ref was bad nor anything. But it was a red card.

Nope, disagree. It not being a yellow is bad, but that's not a red to me. He was jumping to play the ball, the knee in the back didn't look intentional. If anything, his leg was out for the ball, not to bury it into his back. Pretty reckless play, but not malicious.