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Discussion in 'General World Topics' started by SharkBait, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Franckie

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    It sucks when your country's "elected leaders" turn out to be Russian stooges, as recent revelations are shining upon Trump, Flynn, and the rest of the GOP. :bored:bored:bored

    Prediction--we will shortly start to see news stories about what a great manager Pence is and how competent his staff is.
     
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    Remember when people told me that Clinton is the Saudi's pet because her foundation received an insignificant amount from some saudi donors years before she ever got secretery of state?
    Wanna see how they react to Trump making a really huge weapon deal with them that irritates his former friend and nato ally, the Israelis.
     
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    It's in the Saudi's interests to influence both, so I'm not sure what the significance there is. Especially when you have a President who might say one thing and then do the other, and has supporters who tie themselves in knots trying to explain it away.
     
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    Also, it's been reported Ivanka's foundation has been getting money from Saudi Arabia as well. oh, and when Trump criticized Michelle for not wearing a headscarf, but Melania doing the same thing. And when Barack bowed, but Trump doing the same thing. Hypocritical shitbrain. :derp
     
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    This whole thing with Trump and Saudi Arabi is intense!
     
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    Trump's criticized for writing a half-assed note, and he apparently thinks Israel isn't in Middle East. Hilarious.
     
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    So melania won't let trump take her hand? I guess he has grabbed so much pussy she is afraid to get an std....:fan
    --- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2017, Original Post Date: May 24, 2017 ---
    Can someone explain to me why there are so many leaks coming from the white house? Originally I kinda got it because they were mostly about how grotesquely incompetent trump is but now leaks actually have to do with classified stuff. And not all of it comes from trump of course. Incompetence leaks make sense because it can put the nation on guard and increases pressure on the administration to be competent. But the other stuff... WTF is going on there? Is this trump's fault somehow?
     
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    I think the leaks involves the Manchester Concert Attack. Probably has something to do with securities, so the UK got pissed at the US.
     
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    I know about those leaks but that is not what i am asking about. I am asking in general, why are there so many leaks?
     
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    Hmm... that I'm unsure of.
     
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    Act of rebellion and teenage angst, I bet.
     
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    I get what trump is trying to do when he says NATO members own money but does he realize that nato members don't actually own money? Why does he phrase that in a way that is both inaccurate and makes US allies sound like thieves?
     
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    you just answered your own question
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-al...da-gop-operative-1495724787?mg=id-wsj&tesla=y

    This is bullshit. It's been obvious all along that the Russians and parts of the GOP have been colluding with one another to oust Democrats. The idea that the GOP were merely passive, unwitting beneficiaries of Russian interference last year is garbage. GOP leaders know better, but they turn a blind eye with the collusion that is incoming from our own country with a hostile foreign power. Dude, the Russians are not our friends. They'll turn on the GOP the moment they cease to be useful, and have already hacked them at least once. Other countries are already noting how rabid partisanship can be used to undermine our national security and influence abroad. And the GOP ignores all this because of their addiction to promoting welfare for the wealthy by shafting the safety net.
     
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    As for the bold part, to be honest that is almost how I saw the situation. The alternative would be that the GOP actively worked with russia with the hacking and whatever else this entails. However that is not to say them being passive unwitting beneficiaries makes them innocent. The keyword there is "passive". They shouldn't have been passive. They failed to call out trump and russia over this bullshit. And now the other side of the coin. Russia is absolutely not the GOP's friend. And it is certainly not friends with trump. Russia's goal isn't to help trump, it is to cause political chaos and destabilize the US. Their aim was to erode trust in the highest office in the country, US institutions and perhaps get the US president to enable their own geopolitical agenda. Russia didn't need to collude with trump or anyone else to do what they did at the election. It's like the bit about hacking macron's emails. Russia didn't need permission from or to work with le pen to do it, they just did it to hopefully cause chaos in france. Honestly, trump's people are so incompetent that russia probably avoided the collusion intentionally so that those idiots wouldn't ruin it.
     
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    Thing is though, democrats would likely do the same if given the chance.
     
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    I made myself believe that Trump was a better choice than Hilary after he won the elections.
    Well now I realize that it was just wishful thinking and nothing else.
     
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    So, a white supremacist killed two guys, one of them a veteran, when they defended a Muslim girl. Another white supremacist days ago killed a black vet. Clearly the problem is racism and white racists being lunatics.

    Also, did Trump ever mention these killings at all? Or was he quiet?
     
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    He is quiet since these attacks do not fit his political agenda.
    He will only address Muslim attacks, I guess smh
     
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