But the reality is, no one associated with Antifa is responsible for the death of single person in the last 25 years, while right-wing extremists are responsible for hundreds. You can argue about their ideology until you're blue in the face, but the emergent behavior behind these two "groups" have not resulted in the same consequences. Property =/= human life.
What have you been smoking? Zero deaths from Antifa? You do realize that there is an Antifa fueled riot that has been going on for months by now and have killed 32 people right? I mean it is hard to tell if the people were killed by real Antifa or just a normal deranged leftist that believes the same things. (Antifa have no member rolls) But at least some of the deaths are definitely Antifas doing. Like the shootings in the CHAZ, Seattle. At least two black people were killed by the leftist occupants. The first one, the murderer is unknown. But the second one was definitely killed by Antifa. He was a 16 year old black kid who had stolen a car with his brother and was driving it to CHAZ because he though he would be safe there from the cops. Unfortunately, the John Brown Gun Club (A branch of Antifa) that handled security for the CHAZ though that the high speed car was an enemy attack and shot more than 300 bullets at the car. Killing the driver and heavily injuring the younger brother. He might yet survive the five bullets that hit him. Maybe. But its also possible that Antifa have killed more black people in the last months than the police have. So who should BLM have beef with again?
Remember when you hear from leftists that they want to defund the police and replace them with community policing. These are the kind of community police that they have in mind. That shoots with machine guns at anything that looks scary and takes responsibility for nothing.
Also, lets not forget the big cahuna himself, Connor Betts. He is an Antifa member who went on a killing spree murdering 17 people!
https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/
I could probably find a lot more if I googled it. These are just the ones from the top of my head. How is it you state that they have 0 kills? Because of fake news obviously. You need to find less biased news sources.
You can invoke horseshoe theory as much as you want, and philosophically I would mostly agree.
No! Horse shoes, not even once! You completely missed my point. Sargon's stupid Horseshoe theory states that left and right are like a ring and meets in the extremes. I on the other hand think the entire left-right mental construct is stupid as hell. Its more like a haystack or an amorphous blob where many political ideologies relates to one another in a myriad of ways. Unfortunately, with a two part system these ideologies have to make unholy alliances with one another in order to squeeze in to one or both of the parties. And outside observers may be led to think that everyone in a party is there for the same reasons. If one party have one misbehaving group in it then the other party will make its best to paint that group as being representative of the whole part.
But when you as a citizen travel into another state with a weapon designed to kill and maim people you are absolutely closer to a fascist than you are to someone who is supposed to be anti-statist.
They were deliberately searching for violence. You can't tell me that anyone crosses state lines, armed illegally out of fear of looting.
Wait? Why are you both using the argument that he traveled across state lines to pick a fight? Thats a very strange line to come up with independently?
Look I know whats happening here.
You people are being lied to! It is true in the most technical sense that he did travel across state lines. But you must also understand that the city of Kenosha lies right at the border between Wisconsin and Illinois. This guy technically lives in Illinois, but its just 20 minutes between his home and the place the shootings took place and Kenosha is the closest town to were he lives so he is probably there all the time. So why does leftist media make a fuss about him crossing state lines? I'm not a lawyer so I dont know if there are any special laws preventing legal weapons from moving between states with their owners. I've never heard of it. But no, I think they make a fuss about it in order to fool their readers in to thinking that this guy came from far away maybe from a racist enclave in the south? This is called a "lie by omission". They only tell you part of the truth in order to make you deliberately misunderstand. And then they dont correct the mistake.
And about fear of looting. I think you both gravely misunderstand how much looting and destruction is actually going on. Again its because leftist publication lie by omission and dont explain it.
Here is an article from a local paper in Minneapolis that describes the damages from the riots there up until July 13. They counted 1500!!! different companies that had been vandalized and looted! And they even have a map over it! And this is just the looting in one city! The riots have been ongoing all over the country for another 46 days since!
Also, have you maybe considered that the people that runs and work and shop in these companies dont want to see them gone? That they sympathize with the victims being attacked by fascists and want to protect them? And if the looters really dont want to get shot they could just stop looting and destroying and just go home you know. There would not not even be a conflict if one side did not move up and attack the defenders. If they had just gone home he militia would just stand there and talk about football or something. No one would be harmed.
The irony of the right saying that is that they call every idea they don't like and every people they don't like as "waah socialism/socialist/communist!!" even when it's not.
There are people on the right out there that might fit this description. But not me. I'm always very deliberate in my use of words. And I even wrote a long definition of what is and is not socialism up above. Please read it if you missed.
