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It isn't just murder, and it doesn't only cover murder either. Lynching doesn't have to result in death. I'll quote the bill here

  • (5) LYNCHING.—Whoever conspires to commit any offense under paragraph (1), (2), or (3) shall, if death or serious bodily injury (as defined in section 2246 of this title) results from the offense, be imprisoned for not more than 30 years, fined in accordance with this title, or both.
  • (6) OTHER CONSPIRACIES.—Whoever conspires to commit any offense under paragraph (1), (2), or (3) shall, if death or serious bodily injury (as defined in section 2246 of this title) results from the offense, or if the offense includes kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, be imprisoned for not more than 30 years, fined in accordance with this title, or both.

Federal law is separate from state or even municipal laws. Keep in mind that with the Emmett Till case, double jeopardy was a factor that allowed the killers to admit to their crimes and face no consequences. Being charged with a crime in a state court and being acquitted does not protect you from being charged in federal court.
But wouldn't that already be covered by existing laws? conspiracy to commit murder is already a crime. I suppose the bit with the federal government is relevant though I am surprised such a thing wouldn't result in a mistrial (or something comparable) to begin with. Even double jeopardy has limits...
 

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But wouldn't that already be covered by existing laws? conspiracy to commit murder is already a crime. I suppose the bit with the federal government is relevant though I am surprised such a thing wouldn't result in a mistrial (or something comparable) to begin with. Even double jeopardy has limits...
Not as a federal hate crime, no

The point here is the bill doesn't only cover murder as it pertains to federal law. Like you said, that's already covered. But under hate crime statutes it pertains to violent crimes committed by a group that are bias-motivated.
 

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An anarchist that only shitposts about Democrats? That's not very consistent is it?
No. It depends, I only criticize the democrats as much as I do because they are the ones in power right now.
 

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I love how anyone thinks this is worth commenting on beyond going "oh, wait, why wouldn't that be a federal hate crime??", and then go on with their lives.

This just draws back the curtain on two possible things -

1. Wedge issue politics are the only way to stay relevant enough to keep the grift going

2. He's sincere and sees something that is of benefit to non-whites in any way as inherently wrong and/or anti-white. Never mind that he himself cared enough to emphasize lynchings as something white people did to white people too.

I mean, it's probably both in his case I guess but it really is interesting the kind of thing white people feel threatened by. But I guess that's a whole other can of worms...
 

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I've been struggling not to address anyone questioning how this could be anything other than a good thing because as a black man living in America it hits too close to home, and also reminds me why we need to remind people that black lives matter.
 

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I've been struggling not to address anyone questioning how this could be anything other than a good thing because as a black man living in America it hits too close to home, and also reminds me why we need to remind people that black lives matter.
I think what it really comes down to is this kind of thing just doesn't touch their lives in any way, Of course, that kind of ignorance doesn't have to be malicious, it only becomes malicious when they refuse to acknowledge any of it or act like it comes at their expense.
 

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100's of Russian troops have acute radiation poisoning....Norway tells citizens to prepare shelters



Sounds serious.

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Summary

Russian soldiers dug trenches in chernobyl, unearthing radioactive contamination.

Norway issues warning to citizens to prepare bomb shelters for emergencies.
 

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Ben Shapiro is such a fucktard. Most of the shit he says are so consistently wrong, and I don't get how anyone who's not a right winger can take him seriously.
 

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Ben Shapiro is such a fucktard. Most of the shit he says are so consistently wrong, and I don't get how anyone who's not a right winger can take him seriously.



Ben Shapiro used to be a Trump hater.

Don't know what he is now.

Is it his final form.



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Wonder how watchers of Fox News would feel about this vote
 

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100's of Russian troops have acute radiation poisoning....Norway tells citizens to prepare shelters



Sounds serious.

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Summary

Russian soldiers dug trenches in chernobyl, unearthing radioactive contamination.

Norway issues warning to citizens to prepare bomb shelters for emergencies.
Sounds like some lines got crossed there in that reporting. From what I've read, 35+ years of radioactive decay means that there's likely zero chance they have Acute Radiation Poisoning. Exposure? Yes, that's why there isn't any large-scale repopulation of the area and won't be for 20,000 years.
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That details how *I* feel about it.
So it's good then? Because Trump did it first I guess?

Who cares? Does that still excuse only 12 Republicans voting for it?
 

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Just when you think the russian army can't get any worst they start straight up poisoning themselves... and others for good measure?
 

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Sounds like some lines got crossed there in that reporting. From what I've read, 35+ years of radioactive decay means that there's likely zero chance they have Acute Radiation Poisoning. Exposure? Yes, that's why there isn't any large-scale repopulation of the area and won't be for 20,000 years.



Recent wildfires in chernobyl are claimed to have spread radioactive contamination throughout europe.

The half life of cesium is relatively short(less than 50 years), and seems to be the go to statistic experts quote to illustrate an optimistic view of radioactive clean ups.

But I think that even a tiny dosage of cesium, measured in grams can be lethal.

It takes a long time for large quantities to decay down below the lethal margin.
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Just when you think the russian army can't get any worst they start straight up poisoning themselves... and others for good measure?

The russian army will go scuba diving in fukushima for sure.

If they ever invade japan.

Maybe they will turn into godzilla.
 

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And...that makes sense because?
We are in American politics thread. Democrats chose to take responsibility with leadership so they shall feel my wrath.
 

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Recent wildfires in chernobyl are claimed to have spread radioactive contamination throughout europe.

The half life of cesium is relatively short(less than 50 years), and seems to be the go to statistic experts quote to illustrate an optimistic view of radioactive clean ups.

But I think that even a tiny dosage of cesium, measured in grams can be lethal.

It takes a long time for large quantities to decay down below the lethal margin.
They're not getting exposed to grams of the stuff by digging ditches in a forest though, so claiming ARS seems to not be plausible given what I've read. The people who looked at the reactor as it meltdown or some of the liquidators had ARS. People digging in a forest 35 years later aren't. They should definitely be getting cancer screenings more so than the average person though.



Even if there's some undocumented concentrated source of radioactivity capable of giving someone ARS, I think asking people to believe the military moved through the exclusion zone without geiger counters is total horseshit. Where is the evidence? A facebook post from a tour guide? Cmon
 
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