American Politics

[Charlie]

Black voters and women voters have really harmed Sanders continuously.
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Please tell me that is a mistake like what happened in FL.... some odd years ago?!

Ladyboi what....wat?

O c'mon.... she's close enough to one; In my highly un biased opinion.

 

[Dragoon]

Please tell me that is a mistake like what happened in FL.... some odd years ago?!



O c'mon.... she's close enough to one; In my highly un biased opinion.

You're such a troll... and yet I can't bring myself to hate you for it

 

[xi0]

O c'mon.... she's close enough to one; In my highly un biased opinion.

What does that have to do with anything? I dislike her as well, but I don't see the point of that brand of ad hominem.

 

[Dragoon]

He's trolling xD

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Most posts I've seen of his... or her? State random shit and then it's him/her going around in circles when someone asks for him... her? To clarify.

Edit: ooops. Profile says male

 

[shionoro]

It is not like having more parties is necessarily a good thing. There are plenty other countries with more parties and their politics are even worst off than at the US. If anything that the US has few parties to an extent shows (or used to show) a degree of political stability and continuity.

I would not agree with that per se.
The thing is that in the two parties the US has there are very different opinions present. The parties are very big and, for example, the republicans cou
ld easily split into more traditional conservatives and a far rightwing party, while the democrats could split into a green party, a social democratic party and a far left party.

Splits like that would make the powers in the senate better balanced and more reflective of the national spectrum of opinions.

However, the first party to split up will always be the party who loses the next election and about every presidential election until the oponent splits, too (due to the system of how those elections work).

For example, democrats already lost an election due to a strong third party vote (nader cost gore the deciding votes).

If you are not satisfied with the democrats (for example due to you wanting stricter environmental laws, an even more leftist stance or simlpy find their frontrunners shady), then you have no option but to still vote them to prevent an even worse party.
You opinion on a certain topic cannot be reflected, only what you think is the lesser evil.

I find that problematic.
More parties are not always better, but there is definitely potential for more parties in the US which could make the result more reflective of the public opinion.

This would also help to increase the voter turnout for the congress elections, which are usually really low.

A lot of the US voting behaviour comes down to which president, as a person, seems to be best suited, largely ignoring everything else, which i find problematic.

 

[SharkBait]

Hillary also got the state with the most delegates tonight too.

 

[Charlie]

Hillary also got the state with the most delegates tonight too.

REALLY depressing.... gona have to drink now.
Cheers to anyone who joins in me.

He's trolling xD

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Most posts I've seen of his... or her? State random shit and then it's him/her going around in circles when someone asks for him... her? To clarify.

Edit: ooops. Profile says male

Well to clarify on the specifics of it.... I take half interests in some or all subject maters but don't really like to dive in to the thickness of anything hairy or bushy. (whichever comes first.)

Having said that, I must say... Its so true but you also have to recognize that life also revolves in a circle.

 

[SharkBait]

Connecticut is a virtual tie for the democrats though even if it goes to Sanders, Hillary got the big jackpot states of Maryland (huge margin) and Pennsylvania so

Cruz and Kasich just ought to give up as well.

 

[M3J]

Undocumented illegals are clearly security liabilities. If you don't know who they are or what they are here for or where they are supposed to be then there is a great problem to security. The same is true of refugees, if we dont know who they are truly working for, what their creed is, and if they truly stand for traditional American values, then they are security liabilities and must be either prevented from coming to the country or faced greater difficulty coming. Perhaps they ought to register in a national reigstrar and have increased governmental surveillance placed on them to ensure Americans are safe.

Guns are not security liabilities. They are recreational devices used to play with skeets or to participate in the hundreds of thousand square miles of American wilderness for game. We should not limit access to these devices as they are harmful when in the right hands.

They're no more security liabilities than citizens. Citizens can commit just as much crime as undocumented illegals and probably even worse. As far as I recall, only San Bernadino shooters were immigrants, most other mass shooters were citizens (including Breivik).

Refugees are not security liabilities, or at least they're far less of security liabilities than anyone else. Republican and conservative news sources are full of shit, but according to the refugees and credible sources, the vetting process for refugees is actually pretty stringent and long. Rarely any terrorist would enter the US as refugee, because there's a higher chance of being denied if any agent suspects the terrorist even just a bit. They don't have to do anything, America is safe.

American values? Taking away freedom and rights of homosexuals, women, and transgenders while taking more money from the poor to give to the wealthy? Big companies like Wal-Mart being built everywhere and killing small businesses? People being obsessed with guns and shooting everyone to the point that it's become a horrible joke and rebuttal for other countries when the US pokes fun? Is that what you mean by American values? If so, I'm sure many of them will be able to adapt.

I don't see how guns are not security liabilities given guns have killed countless of kids, women, and men. Guns are meant to kill, they're meant to end lives. If you truly are about protecting America and are against security liabilities, you wouldn't be defending guns when we constantly read in the news how people have murdered others with guns. These devices must be limited, and it's hypocritical of you to be all right with anyone being able to own guns but be against allowing immigrants or refugees when facts and stats have it that more Americans have died by guns than by refugees and immigrants committing terrorism.

You cannot be against murder and claim it's for ethical and moral reasons when you support giving more people unrestricted access to a device that ends life.

Went to vote today and they had a completely new paper ballot system. Ever since I've been voting, it's been completely digital. I guess it's fine if there's a paper trail, but after filling out the ballot there was a line to scan it in and the machine had "jammed" and no one working there knew how to fix it. Had to wait around for 20 minutes for them to get to someone on the phone who knew how to fix it. They gave us two options before it was fixed, either wait until it's fixed, or put it in a lockbox and they'll scan it in for you when they're done. The whole thing just seems super tedious and annoying. Not trying to be cynical, but what a joke of a system.

Probably fixed by Hillary? Dunno. Wouldn't be shocked if her campaign played a huge part in preventing people from voting for Bernie, somehow.

 

[Dragoon]

They're no more security liabilities than citizens. Citizens can commit just as much crime as undocumented illegals and probably even worse. As far as I recall, only San Bernadino shooters were immigrants, most other mass shooters were citizens (including Breivik).

Refugees are not security liabilities, or at least they're far less of security liabilities than anyone else. Republican and conservative news sources are full of shit, but according to the refugees and credible sources, the vetting process for refugees is actually pretty stringent and long. Rarely any terrorist would enter the US as refugee, because there's a higher chance of being denied if any agent suspects the terrorist even just a bit. They don't have to do anything, America is safe.

American values? Taking away freedom and rights of homosexuals, women, and transgenders while taking more money from the poor to give to the wealthy? Big companies like Wal-Mart being built everywhere and killing small businesses? People being obsessed with guns and shooting everyone to the point that it's become a horrible joke and rebuttal for other countries when the US pokes fun? Is that what you mean by American values? If so, I'm sure many of them will be able to adapt.

I don't see how guns are not security liabilities given guns have killed countless of kids, women, and men. Guns are meant to kill, they're meant to end lives. If you truly are about protecting America and are against security liabilities, you wouldn't be defending guns when we constantly read in the news how people have murdered others with guns. These devices must be limited, and it's hypocritical of you to be all right with anyone being able to own guns but be against allowing immigrants or refugees when facts and stats have it that more Americans have died by guns than by refugees and immigrants committing terrorism.

You cannot be against murder and claim it's for ethical and moral reasons when you support giving more people unrestricted access to a device that ends life.


Probably fixed by Hillary? Dunno. Wouldn't be shocked if her campaign played a huge part in preventing people from voting for Bernie, somehow.

Now you're just hellbent on blaming corruption for everything xD not everything needs a conspiracy theory to prove why good guy sanders is losing.

 

[SharkBait]

Hillary came from behind once it got to 70% of Connecticut's counts and eventually ended up with more than Sanders at that point.

This video reminds me of all the Sanders fans I follow on twitter.

 

[xi0]

Gotta love the delusions people like Cruz and Fiorina live with.

 

[TotalEconomist]

Gotta love the delusions people like Cruz and Fiorina live with.

The Cruz and Fiorina news is the greatest thing I read today.

Personally, I like BB's tweets on this

 

[kkck]

NUTJOBS ASSEMBLE! **blows horn**
....

How exactly is it a good move for ted to run with fiorina? As far as I can tell fiorina got virtually no support and much of the stuff she said were blatant and easily verifiable lies (about the planned parenthood videos). I thought she was seen as some sort of unlikable crazy harpy.... Then again ted cruz is so profoundly hated among the republican establishment that he probably couldn't get one of the "saner" republicans to run with him.

 

[xi0]

How exactly is it a good move for ted to run with fiorina? As far as I can tell fiorina got virtually no support and much of the stuff she said were blatant and easily verifiable lies (about the planned parenthood videos). I thought she was seen as some sort of unlikable crazy harpy.... Then again ted cruz is so profoundly hated among the republican establishment that he probably couldn't get one of the "saner" republicans to run with him.

Blatant tokenism maybe? It reminds me a lot of McCain picking Palin in 2008, though I don't think Fiorina is anywhere near as dense. She's just a shit human being. I guess that sits fine with someone like Ted Cruz.

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But yeah it does seem rather laughable, I guess Cruz is desperate after getting trounced yesterday. She supposedly only was asked a day ago as well...

 

[SharkBait]

I guess his phone calls to Marco Rubio went unanswered.

 

[xi0]

I guess his phone calls to Marco Rubio went unanswered.

I think I'd be surprised if he even bothered, given their history. And if Rubio said yes, why would anyone take anything either said seriously given the clear contempt they had for one another?

 

[M3J]

NUTJOBS ASSEMBLE! **blows horn**
....

How exactly is it a good move for ted to run with fiorina? As far as I can tell fiorina got virtually no support and much of the stuff she said were blatant and easily verifiable lies (about the planned parenthood videos). I thought she was seen as some sort of unlikable crazy harpy.... Then again ted cruz is so profoundly hated among the republican establishment that he probably couldn't get one of the "saner" republicans to run with him.

I figured republicans preferred Cruz over Drumpf. I guess not.

Wow, only good thing Rubio has done is not like Cruz.

Hmm, the way I see it, Trump will destroy US socially, Bernie will probably destroy it economically, Cruz will destroy freedom and rights, and Hillary will... idk. Though, at least with Bernie we keep as much right and freedom as possible while with Trump, businesses may move back to the US and create jobs, although wealthy will get wealthier and the poor will get poorer.

 

[kkck]

I figured republicans preferred Cruz over Drumpf. I guess not.

Wow, only good thing Rubio has done is not like Cruz.

Hmm, the way I see it, Trump will destroy US socially, Bernie will probably destroy it economically, Cruz will destroy freedom and rights, and Hillary will... idk. Though, at least with Bernie we keep as much right and freedom as possible while with Trump, businesses may move back to the US and create jobs, although wealthy will get wealthier and the poor will get poorer.

Didn't the guy with the effeminate southern accent say that choosing between cruz or trump is like choosing between getting shot or poisoned? I honestly think that if cruz was frontrunners the establishment would work with trump to get him out of the race... And as far as I can tell the establishment is aiming for kasich to get the nomination, however unlikely that may be.

Doesn't that imply hillary is the best candidate? Arguably leaving stuff as it is is better than any of the other scenarios you presented lol. Or did I miss a joke here?

 

[shionoro]

I do not think Sanders would destroy the US economically, nor would trump do even a tenth fo the things he says he would do.

Clinton is basically a candidate who will keep on obama's politics with another foreign political focus (she seems to be less opposed to more involvement of the US troups).

People who were fine with obama can vote for clinton withotu many regrets.
Sanders is more on the progressive side. Naturally he will not get half of the things through congress he wants to do, but he will at least try to chang eup some things.
That's fine too, people who are on the left but were not fine with obama and thought the democrats should not be as 'conservative' as they are today can vote for sanders without regrets.
Both of those candidates are absolutely president material.

Now...i do not have many nice things to say about the republicans.

Kasich would come to mind as someone who can at least give you the impression of being a president of a western nation (even with his quote about abortion in mind).
I could live with president kasich.

Now, Trump and Cruz are just people who really really like to win and be in the spotlight.
Trump would not necessarily destroy much. Some things done for rich people, then he would do whatever his advisoers tell him to do.
The US would embarass themselves with a clown for a term, but it's not like the US would instantly become hell. As mentinoed before: There is a congress.
Cruz is more dangerous than trump. He is a serious hatemongerer, he doenst just say these things, he means a lot of the things he says.
And he is more likely to have a serious harmful aggenda he is bound to get through with.

So all in all, i am very glad that i dont believe that you guys will have a republican president this year.
Trump effectively destroyed that possiblity (conspiracy theories aside^^).

Sometimes it hink the person who has most pleasure and fun with something should get it.
That's why I gave my 3DS i rarely played with to my little cousin who plays it everyday and has a blast with it.
And i think the person who will definitely fall into manical laughter after the election is done and the doors are shut is hillary clinton