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Sanders being president would be bad news. He already causes people to be left stranded helpless. No one wants a socialist as president.
Yeah, I guess when I rear-end someone with a Trump bumpersticker tomorrow it'll be Trump's fault. Not an indication of my mental health or anything.
 

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No it's not, you even used Fox News consistently, as well as other biased sources. Most of things you believe in are supported by nothing but bullshit, and there's proof you have believed in many blatant lies from politicians. Planned Parenthood for one, abortion for second, and many other stuff that I can't remember right now.
Planned Parenthood was true, remember they apologized for their wrong doing after Fiorina and other politicians called them out on their disappointing behavior. Defending an organization tasked with killing babies is wrong.
 

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Planned Parenthood was true, remember they apologized for their wrong doing after Fiorina and other politicians called them out on their disappointing behavior. Defending an organization tasked with killing babies is wrong.
IIRC they did not apologize for wrongdoing. They apologized for a conversation in the videos which was inappropriate. Most of the stuff fiorina said was proven to be false well beyond reasonable doubt (on account of it simply not happening on the videos). regardless on anyone's views on abortions, planned parenthood did absolutely nothing they could be charged with.
 

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I will do any any humiliating video on youtube of your liking, ranging from ice bucket challenge to to eating haggis, if Trump wins.
Nah I just want to see your reaction to your quote that's all. Still, are you really that much convinced of his loss that you'd do all that? So many people were certain that Trump would be the worst candidate and won't come far, yet he won by an incredible margin and is the nominee now. And Clinton isn't even the most solid and tough democrat opponent one could have. November is still far away.

Yeah, I guess when I rear-end someone with a Trump bumpersticker tomorrow it'll be Trump's fault. Not an indication of my mental health or anything.
Oh, where'd this come from suddenly? I thought you said we should blame the cloth for being red and not the bull that's charging it. :kappa
 

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Nah I just want to see your reaction to your quote that's all. Still, are you really that much convinced of his loss that you'd do all that? So many people were certain that Trump would be the worst candidate and won't come far, yet he won by an incredible margin and is the nominee now. And Clinton isn't even the most solid and tough democrat opponent one could have. November is still far away.
Yes, i am THAT convinced.
An di still think trump is their worst possible candidate (except carson) for the generals.
Trump was doing well in polls for the primary before. People did not want to believe it, but his win was not unprobable (exspecially because cruz and rubio had roughly the same audience and stealing each other votes, so to say).

However, Trump is (again, besides carson) the candidate clinton actually always had a good poll result against.
Kasich for example would have likely won against clinton in the general.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

There were a lot of polls conducted so far.
And you are right that there is still time, but what do u think will happen?
The only change which will still happen is that Sanders will likely endorse clinton which will give her some additional votes from people who didnt like the idea of voting for her.
That bonus wont happen anymore for trump.

Trump had a field day so far because a lot of the rep voters were easily impressed by his attitude, while the rest of america was apalled or just laughed about it.
And, as i said, his opponents had a simliar audience (the whole primary could have been another story if it was only trump vs cruz all along).
This both is gone in the generals, i don't see any chance of him winning.
 

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Oh, where'd this come from suddenly? I thought you said we should blame the cloth for being red and not the bull that's charging it. :kappa
Uh, I think you have me confused with Milly or something...

Saying someone is being reckless with their words or calling them a demagogue isn't the same as not holding people responsible for their own actions.
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I love Hispanics, I have a ton of Hispanic friends!
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Shame on anyone who says he doesn't love hispanics, he's eating a taco salad for fucks sake!
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Well, for the better or worse, i think even if trump loses the old chap had one hell of a time^^
 

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Well, sander's base was to begin with young people. Other candidates had support from younger people but nothing compared to sanders as far as I can tell. Which makes sense, millennials are known to be well more progressive than the previous generation. If the young people today are so inclined towards being progressive then evidently the future of the country is in that direction.
The main reason why Bernie has the support he does is because he genuinely cares about the people and wants to improve the lives of those who aren't wealthy or connected. People know that because there are pictures of him fighting for civil rights and a video of him defending homosexuals serving in the army.


Though, I read that Trump changed his views on minimum wage, from being against it to considering it. NOt sure if he's pandering or if he leans more towards increasing it or isn't as against increasing it, but this makes me think. Would be great if he's for it though.

Sanders being president would be bad news. He already causes people to be left stranded helpless. No one wants a socialist as president.
Are you trolling?
Planned Parenthood was true, remember they apologized for their wrong doing after Fiorina and other politicians called them out on their disappointing behavior. Defending an organization tasked with killing babies is wrong.
No, Planned Parenthood was false, and the videos were doctored. It's funny how you never once pointed that out, but you're so quick to call democrats liars when republicans lied to the people. If you actually did use credible source, you'd know Planned Parenthood isn't about killing babies. But not only that, you're also a hypocrite because if you really did care about babies' lives, you wouldn't be against refugee children and babies coming to the country. Republicans are so full of shit - on one hand they complain about how abortions kill babies, but on the other hand they would rather let the impoverished babies and kids die than offer assistance or welfare.

You clearly don't do any research at all, and you made it clear you don't read your own links. Not only have you failed to provide proof that Planned Parenthood is about abortion, but the only "proof" you offered that refugee "kids" are dangerous was when an adult pretended to be a kid to continue playing basketball.

Politicians and people who are against Planned Parenthood are idiots who will blindly believe anything, and that's a fact. I mean, I"d understand if Planned Parenthood was primarily focused on abortion, but it's not. They even said that abortion makes up 3% of the services they offer. These disgusting politicians want to get rid of an organization that helps women and men. Bad!

Why don't you actually try going there and talking to the employees and people who use/need their services. Unless you're a horrible person, there's a pretty good chance you'd rethink your views on Planned Parenthood. I'm not a fan of abortions, but neither you nor I have the right to decide what women can or cannot do. Their bodies, their choice.
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Uh, I think you have me confused with Milly or something...

Saying someone is being reckless with their words or calling them a demagogue isn't the same as not holding people responsible for their own actions.

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the fuck you mean by that? You wanna catch these hands?
 

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the fuck you mean by that? You wanna catch these hands?
That you're somewhat hypocritical/inflammatory when it comes to the language you use when complaining about the right? Like speaking in absolutes, etc.
 

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That you're somewhat hypocritical/inflammatory when it comes to the language you use when complaining about the right? Like speaking in absolutes, etc.
ah.

I get angry and generalize and forget that democrats are fuckups too. Same with liberals. My experiences with conservatives have been that horrible, and you've seen some of it.
 

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ah.

I get angry and generalize and forget that democrats are fuckups too. Same with liberals. My experiences with conservatives have been that horrible, and you've seen some of it.
Well, I agree with this and I think they create bigger problems/headaches...but yeah.
 

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I could be wrong about some conservatives, and I acknowledge that, but at this point, I'm too miffed to even care. At least I"m not singling them out now, otherwise I'd have mentioned conservatives being opposed to Planned Parenthood instead of including democrats as well.

It's sad because republicans used to be much better while democrats were dubious.
 

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I could be wrong about some conservatives, and I acknowledge that, but at this point, I'm too miffed to even care. At least I"m not singling them out now, otherwise I'd have mentioned conservatives being opposed to Planned Parenthood instead of including democrats as well.

It's sad because republicans used to be much better while democrats were dubious.
Well i have and had some muslim friends (and intellectual enemies :p) and was always eager to discuss about religion, so i naturally read the quran and other sources and learned what the viewpoint of them was on different issues and how they (as decent people) interpret the quran and islam on a whole.
And while i am still a very staunch atheist, it always makes me really mad when people who do not know jackshit copy and paste some violent verses and then think they have proven a point.
Exspecially because those people are mostly more agressive and hateful than your usual muslim.

There are huge problems in the islamic communities and societies and a chunk of them stem from things actually being in the quran, but many people act like the quran would basically imply for any muslim to become a hateful maniac if he is serious about it.

I am all for fighting against extremism and conservativism (which has tbh worse dangers than extremism) in islam, but only while acknowledging that a moderate and peaceful islam does exist (and does not only exist because some muslims 'ignore' the violence but because the quran genuinely can give that impression if you read it that way).

I am just so sick of people who have never actually spoken to a muslim for more than 'one döner kebap with fries please' telling me that 'they' want to kill us all and rape our women.
 
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Wrong thread, but I agree. Sadly, most people and even politicians don't even bother to think about what most Muslims are like. Didn't an Islamic organization donate money to the Charleston church that a white Christian kid shot in in order to incite a racial war? And sadly, all the politicians do (especially republicans) is offer prayers and thoughts to the victims and their families.

At least Obama tried to do something about it.
 

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Thats a real person getting real interviews for doing what was divinely inspired. I think this is again further proof that socialists and atheists probably wouldnt ever make it far in American politics.

Politicians and people who are against Planned Parenthood are idiots who will blindly believe anything, and that's a fact. I mean, I"d understand if Planned Parenthood was primarily focused on abortion, but it's not. They even said that abortion makes up 3% of the services they offer. These disgusting politicians want to get rid of an organization that helps women and men. Bad!

Why don't you actually try going there and talking to the employees and people who use/need their services. Unless you're a horrible person, there's a pretty good chance you'd rethink your views on Planned Parenthood. I'm not a fan of abortions, but neither you nor I have the right to decide what women can or cannot do. Their bodies, their choice.
Do you know how many abortions should be allowed? If they are even doing just one abortion that is one abortion too many. We shouldnt be aligning ourselves with baby killers. Just because someone who is a criminal does something right doesnt mean we should ignore and forgive them for their other crime. Thus we shouldn't even be entertaining the idea of considering they do other things than abortion because they done. If they ditched the agenda to do abortions then they could be a good organization. Until then they are one of the worst organizations Ive ever seen. I will continue to vote for politicians who want to get rid of an organization that is against my beliefs, against the beliefs of america, and against traditional American values and the sanctity of life. It's not right. Sorry, but I believe I am qualified to have the right to decide what people who carry babies can and cannot do in the realm of determining their life outcome.

Why would I even go to Planned Parenthood, thats equivalent to blasphemy against God. If I did go Id just offer thoughts and prayers and hope for divine intervention to turn more politicians against supporting such an organization.
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I am just so sick of people who have never actually spoken to a muslim for more than 'one döner kebap with fries please' telling me that 'they' want to kill us all and rape our women.
When refugees and immigrants from terrorist oriented Islamic states are indoctrinating their people with this rhetoric then it shouldnt be shocking to see that people are actually afraid of interacting with these security liabilities. And people who are followers of Islam are not being all that visible in America either, so they have some work they need to do to reassure people in America that they can be safe individuals.
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And sadly, all the politicians do (especially republicans) is offer prayers and thoughts to the victims and their families.
What else do you expect them to do? These are people in their rights minds making bad decisions with devices used for recreational activities. You cant make crimes for people thinking of committing wrong before they do it, or even people who have gone through the paperwork to legally acquire them, and even people who are in their right minds while making the purchases. To imply that politicians should do more is not realistic as there is nothing more to do.
 

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It doesn't matter who wins this time since it's still too early to start the game of damage, let's wait until the 2024 election then you will see wtf happens all right.
 

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Thats a real person getting real interviews for doing what was divinely inspired. I think this is again further proof that socialists and atheists probably wouldnt ever make it far in American politics.
Blaming Bernie for the choices of other idiots is dumb. That's like blaming gun manufacturers for citizens shooting and killing other people.

Sadly, it's because many citizens are either ignorant or too selfish. Having a religious president run things according to faith is bad and limits freedom and rights.


Do you know how many abortions should be allowed? If they are even doing just one abortion that is one abortion too many. We shouldnt be aligning ourselves with baby killers. Just because someone who is a criminal does something right doesnt mean we should ignore and forgive them for their other crime. Thus we shouldn't even be entertaining the idea of considering they do other things than abortion because they done. If they ditched the agenda to do abortions then they could be a good organization. Until then they are one of the worst organizations Ive ever seen. I will continue to vote for politicians who want to get rid of an organization that is against my beliefs, against the beliefs of america, and against traditional American values and the sanctity of life. It's not right. Sorry, but I believe I am qualified to have the right to decide what people who carry babies can and cannot do in the realm of determining their life outcome.
The amount of abortions that are needed should be allowed, and luckily none of us can do anything about it. You basically support killing children and babies, so you're already aligned with one. You do not understand the point of abortions, and neither do the people against it.

Yet you support ignoring Wall Street employees of their crimes and forgiving them. Why so nitpicky? Abortions aren't a crime, they're legal. It doesn't affect you or me, nor does our tax money pay for abortions, so I don't see why you should care. If you truly cared about lives, you would support welfare for kids, higher minimum wage for families, and accepting refugee children into the country, who are no more dangerous than unwanted babies.

We're not entertaining the idea, it's a fact that they offer tons of different services that are good for the people and society. It's pretty messed up people like you want to stop that, and it shows just how horrible anti-PP people are. You claim people have rights and freedoms and government should interfere less, and yet you try to take away the rights and freedoms, using government interference. It's ironic how people call Planned Parenthood one of the worst organizations but support NRA, who would support giving a little kid guns to play with.

What traditional American values? There is none. Once you get past the lies, there is history of fathers and even mothers who left the family, whether the kid wasn't even born yet or was a young teenager. Women have been getting abortion for decades in America. The "beliefs of America" is a ridiculous blanket statement, as I'm sure many Americans believe women have the right to decide.

No, you are not qualified at all to have the right to decide what people who carry babies can and cannot do, nor do you have the right to do that at all. No one but the women who are actually carrying the babies do, as it's their lives that are affected, not yours. If a married woman gets pregnant, but her husband leaves her because he doesn't want to spend his wages on kids, are you going to support the woman and her kid? I highly doubt it, so you don't deserve to even voice your opinion on this matter. No politician does, especially not the men.

Why would I even go to Planned Parenthood, thats equivalent to blasphemy against God. If I did go Id just offer thoughts and prayers and hope for divine intervention to turn more politicians against supporting such an organization.
how is it blasphemy against God? I'm pretty sure he'd support an organization that's about helping others and would be embarrassed by people like you and Cruz who are against such organization. I'm pretty sure it's more blasphemous to be against letting refugee children come into the country so they can live a safe, peaceful life. Or that it's more blasphemous to be against increasing minimum wage so the breadwinners can support their families and make sure their kids are taken care of.

So much hypocrisy from pro-lifers.

If you think you might have STD or your significant other has UTI, you can go to Planned Parenthood and get yourself tested or talk to them about your problems. If a doctor doesn't want to treat you thoroughly because of your sexual orientation, you can go to Planned Parenthood for better treatment. Planned Parenthood is a great organization, and it's an embarrassment that people like you are trying to shut it down.

What else do you expect them to do? These are people in their rights minds making bad decisions with devices used for recreational activities. You cant make crimes for people thinking of committing wrong before they do it, or even people who have gone through the paperwork to legally acquire them, and even people who are in their right minds while making the purchases. To imply that politicians should do more is not realistic as there is nothing more to do.
These politicians can make gun control laws stricter and make it harder for bad people to get guns. If these people have a history, no guns for them. If their background checks are suspicious, no guns. These devices are used mainly to end lives, and it's scary that you call killing recreational activity. A lot of these people aren't in their right minds, otherwise they wouldn't be killing others.

It is pretty realistic and possible for politicians to do more, but they refuse to do so because they're corrupt and get paid by the gun industry. In fact, one of the reasons why people from other countries look down on America and make fun of Americans is because of the love for guns, especially in countries where guns are banned, and they claim not to see as much violence or mass shooting.
 

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Wtf... you, sharkbait, are full of shit good sir :lmao

"sanctity of life" thanks for the lulz m8
 

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The amount of abortions that are needed should be allowed, and luckily none of us can do anything about it. You basically support killing children and babies, so you're already aligned with one. You do not understand the point of abortions, and neither do the people against it.
What is the point of abortions? There is only one end goal of abortion and that is to kill a innocent babe.

If you truly cared about lives, you would support welfare for kids, higher minimum wage for families, and accepting refugee children into the country, who are no more dangerous than unwanted babies.
Why would kids need welfare when families in good situations should be the only ones having children. People with well paying smart jobs, strong financial stability and job security are the only ones who can handle child raising. Everyone else ought to reconsider the need to have a child and instead focus on bettering their own lives to get out of their dire situations.

I dont see how refugee children is similar to abortion. Refugee children can make it in their home country, its not us Americans who need to protect and harbor these people of questionable security. Not allowing them into the country is not a death wish or forcing them to be killed. Children always survive in war torn country, I mean, you never see countries blasted off the map with none of their people remaining.

You claim people have rights and freedoms and government should interfere less, and yet you try to take away the rights and freedoms, using government interference. It's ironic how people call Planned Parenthood one of the worst organizations but support NRA, who would support giving a little kid guns to play with.
A right to kill babies is not something we should give to the hands of people to decide but to the government. Government is tasked with protecting life and liberty and freedom.

I dont see the need to attack NRA when its good to have trade organizations to lobby for the rights of a much needed industry that provides tons of jobs and economic benefits. I cant think of a single thing Planned Parenthood does to advance any industry or to help the economy out. Everything it does the Department of Health and Human Services, local state funded clinics and hospitals can do better.
If a married woman gets pregnant, but her husband leaves her because he doesn't want to spend his wages on kids, are you going to support the woman and her kid? I highly doubt it, so you don't deserve to even voice your opinion on this matter. No politician does, especially not the men.
Why would I offer support the woman and the kid. In their situation she would have a well paying job and strong financial support as well as child support from the husband to be able to raise the kid so there is nothing disastrous about the situation you propose. Once the child is born I dont think the responsibility is on the government anymore.
how is it blasphemy against God? I'm pretty sure he'd support an organization that's about helping others and would be embarrassed by people like you and Cruz who are against such organization. I'm pretty sure it's more blasphemous to be against letting refugee children come into the country so they can live a safe, peaceful life. Or that it's more blasphemous to be against increasing minimum wage so the breadwinners can support their families and make sure their kids are taken care of.
When the teaching is you reap what you sow and that investments for the future are good, then it seems doubtful that increasing minimum wage would be supported by the teachings from the word of God. I also doubt the word of God would support an organization who is tasked with killing babies. You cant just pick and choose what a criminal organization does and sweep its abortions under the rug when its out in broad daylight about what they are doing. Additionally you cant just increase minimum wage for lazy jobs that people mess up in. I went to Mickey D's again recently and the people working seemed incapable of reading the receipt and giving me a large cup for my soda saying I wasnt charged for it, when the receipt clearly said ML-LRG. Does someone in such a position really deserve to make more than 8 dollars an hour for such an embarrassingly and aggravating mix up? I think not.
If you think you might have STD or your significant other has UTI, you can go to Planned Parenthood and get yourself tested or talk to them about your problems. If a doctor doesn't want to treat you thoroughly because of your sexual orientation, you can go to Planned Parenthood for better treatment. Planned Parenthood is a great organization, and it's an embarrassment that people like you are trying to shut it down.
When was the last time someone was turned down by a doctor for their orientation? Its not like there is only one doctor in a city or something.

It is pretty realistic and possible for politicians to do more, but they refuse to do so because they're corrupt and get paid by the gun industry. In fact, one of the reasons why people from other countries look down on America and make fun of Americans is because of the love for guns, especially in countries where guns are banned, and they claim not to see as much violence or mass shooting.
Yet these people love playing first person shooter video games, violent shooting video games, and watching movies with shooting happening. I doubt these people seriously look down on America as well as doubt people in America are as hypersensitive to guns as you are.
 

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What is the point of abortions? There is only one end goal of abortion and that is to kill a innocent babe.
There is no baby present, there is a fetus. A fetus has less sensory and cognitive skills than any given animal we eat.
So why is it bad to destroy it?
 
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