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Im just gonna state that Clinton looks more like a half-ass person with the emails and her foundation, and oh the Feds up her ass. If it keeps going bad for her, Trumps gonna have field day on the election
 

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Im just gonna state that Clinton looks more like a half-ass person with the emails and her foundation, and oh the Feds up her ass. If it keeps going bad for her, Trumps gonna have field day on the election
Well... you're not wrong, but if Trump lets this opportunity slip by, then he's definitely going to lose the race. Then again, I guess it could be a good thing if he just plays it cool while this mess is going around until November 8.
 

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But if the Delegate system has failed to do its simple job, how likely will it remain in the system (unless it benefits politicians)? Politicians usually get things done if it either benefits them, or prevents any harm coming towards them; It's how we're progressing (more-or-less) like Slavery being abolished.

So based on FiveThirthyEight, Hillary's chances of winning the race dropped from 69% to 67%, and it looks like Trump is on the lead in Florida at the moment. This is probably the only opportunity for Trump to take advantage over the situation instead of acting like a half-ass person he is.
The only issue here is that they chose the wrong nominee whose bullshit got him popular because he appeals to idiots and bigots. Oh, and they were in danger of a "socialist" winning the primaries as well. All they have to do is choose the right nominees next time, like the Democrats choosing a dubious person to stand against someone they want or the Republicans not choosing shitheads they don't want to risk winning.

A great way for Trump to take advantage is by "repenting" and showing he's a good guy, even if he isn't.
 

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The only issue here is that they chose the wrong nominee whose bullshit got him popular because he appeals to idiots and bigots. Oh, and they were in danger of a "socialist" winning the primaries as well. All they have to do is choose the right nominees next time, like the Democrats choosing a dubious person to stand against someone they want or the Republicans not choosing shitheads they don't want to risk winning.

A great way for Trump to take advantage is by "repenting" and showing he's a good guy, even if he isn't.
They didn't really chose Trump (if anything, they had the opportunity to prevent Trump from becoming the nominee; instead, they've allowed him to run around the circus without his leash and now he made a mess out of the GOP.
Hopefully the next time (or if there's a "next time" for the Republicans after this election), they pick nominees who sees the Modern Day of the US instead of sticking with their Theocratic views. They sure as shit won't get Millennials with their speeches if they involve religion.

Even though that's very unlikely, I think that will actually give him a chance to win the people's trust between now and November 8.
 

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They chose Trump to be a nominee, no? But they didn't realize that his bullshit would resonate so strongly, so then they tried to work the primaries against him just as democrats did against Bernie. Unfortunately, media paid more attention to Trump's bullshit than it did Bernie, so Trump had a major advantage.

Republicans = conservatives = people who would rather live in pre-Civil Rights and pre-women's voting rights times. Supported by this is the amount of Trump supporters who wanted to repeal the 19th Amendment due to a joke map stating Trump would lose solely because women would be voting.

I'm sure that's really all he'd need to get an edge and capitalize. Main reason he's not trouncing Hillary is because he's a bigoted asshole with shitty supporters.
 

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Anyone care to explain how can this can be said to have been done just to influence the election when it was ongoing since early October and it was released in line with the Freedom of Information Act and only after Comey was fully briefed?

I also thought the FBI has been investigating potential Kremlin ties in the Trump campaign from Paul Manafort? Or are people just arguing over the fact that the information itself hasn't been released to the public yet?

They chose Trump to be a nominee, no? But they didn't realize that his bullshit would resonate so strongly, so then they tried to work the primaries against him just as democrats did against Bernie. Unfortunately, media paid more attention to Trump's bullshit than it did Bernie, so Trump had a major advantage.
It makes you wonder exactly what they (the Dems) were so afraid of when it came to Bernie. Was he too extreme even for the Democrats, or what? I bet now, under yet another scandal, they wish they hadn't strong armed Hillary into being their nominee by spearheading efforts against Bernie (and man who could have easily won if they supported him).

Republicans = conservatives = people who would rather live in pre-Civil Rights and pre-women's voting rights times. Supported by this is the amount of Trump supporters who wanted to repeal the 19th Amendment due to a joke map stating Trump would lose solely because women would be voting.

I'm sure that's really all he'd need to get an edge and capitalize. Main reason he's not trouncing Hillary is because he's a bigoted asshole with shitty supporters.
And do you believe this way because because some twitter users trolled or flaunted their stupidity in #repealthe19th?
 

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Anyone care to explain how can this can be said to have been done just to influence the election when it was ongoing since early October and it was released in line with the Freedom of Information Act and only after Comey was fully briefed?

I also thought the FBI has been investigating potential Kremlin ties in the Trump campaign from Paul Manafort? Or are people just arguing over the fact that the information itself hasn't been released to the public yet?



It makes you wonder exactly what they (the Dems) were so afraid of when it came to Bernie. Was he too extreme even for the Democrats, or what? I bet now, under yet another scandal, they wish they hadn't strong armed Hillary into being their nominee by spearheading efforts against Bernie (and man who could have easily won if they supported him).



And do you believe this way because because some twitter users trolled or flaunted their stupidity in #repealthe19th?
The democrats (and republicans) are likely afraid of Bernie because he actually is anti-establishment and wants to punish the Wall Street criminals, among other stuff. Bernie actually cares about the people and not the politicians.


It's not just "some Twitter users." Even if it was, it still shows how bad and dangerous Trump supporters are.
 

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The democrats (and republicans) are likely afraid of Bernie because he actually is anti-establishment and wants to punish the Wall Street criminals, among other stuff. Bernie actually cares about the people and not the politicians.
That's what I was thinking. He's too "give to the people" and not enough "take for the government". That'll do it, alright.

I'm no Bernie supporter but what Republican and Democrats—as well as largely accepted media for each (CNN, Fox etc)—did is just outrageous. That's just as much as dictating the election as pushing this investigation and yet it flies under the radar because both parties can agree to hate that person.

It's not just "some Twitter users." Even if it was, it still shows how bad and dangerous Trump supporters are.
And Islamic terrorists aren't just "some Muslims". Are we supposed to generalize all Muslims because there are a ton of terrorists in the same religion that act louder than the moderate ones?

There are even crazy and dangerous Hillary supporters—or have you not heard of the death threats the 15 year old girl Weiner was talking to got from Hillary supporters for "ruining her election"? Or how about the Democratic convention in Nevada? Where ever you look you will find the shadow of someone or something good. It isn't exclusive to conservatives. They just get the most heat for their crazies.
 

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Now that sounds authentic!

On a different note - do you expect uprisings after the elections?

Both of the candidates seem to have a great opposition in the population.

Donald Trump said he will question the result in case he will lose, and along him his supporters I suppose. Also I read about groups such as "Oath Keepers" and "Democratic Spring" and young Bernie supporters recently, that are establishment critical and are organizing themselves nationwide.

And it seems rational to conclude there might be an infuration of the democratic anti-Trump part of the population in case he wins.

Perhaps an exciting time ahead of you.
 

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According to fivethirtyeight Clinton in a position where she is likely to win only 271 EC. That too counting NH,CO and Maine.
It shows Trump with better chances in Florida and North Carolina
And she is campaigning in Arizona :fail
She needs to campaign hard on Florida and North Carolina. What's wrong with her? It seems Trump campaigning in Florida gave him a boost good enough to surpass Clinton. Clinton needs to go there and reverse the effect. And she's busy in Arizona where she probably has very less chances of winning.
 

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According to fivethirtyeight Clinton in a position where she is likely to win only 271 EC. That too counting NH,CO and Maine.
It shows Trump with better chances in Florida and North Carolina
And she is campaigning in Arizona :fail
She needs to campaign hard on Florida and North Carolina. What's wrong with her? It seems Trump campaigning in Florida gave him a boost good enough to surpass Clinton. Clinton needs to go there and reverse the effect. And she's busy in Arizona where she probably has very less chances of winning.
Do you really think the sites saying that are accurate enough to predict that she will actually lose?
 

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Do you really think the sites saying that are accurate enough to predict that she will actually lose?
No. As many in Florida already voted. And I read somewhere Clinton had a commanding lead in early voting in Florida.

However what is alarming is that her numbers look much worse than a week ago.

That being said I do think She will lose Arizona. Probably Iowa and Ohio too.
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I met a guy From New Hampshire few days ago. He said Tump is likely to win there. I'm not sure Clinton can count NH, Maine and Colorado in her pocket already. Although polls show she's leading there.
 

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I dont believe any polls until after 7pm election day. We rarely know who these pollers are and if they happened to poll a host of people who just happened to vote for the candidiate of the hour.
 

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That's what I was thinking. He's too "give to the people" and not enough "take for the government". That'll do it, alright.

I'm no Bernie supporter but what Republican and Democrats—as well as largely accepted media for each (CNN, Fox etc)—did is just outrageous. That's just as much as dictating the election as pushing this investigation and yet it flies under the radar because both parties can agree to hate that person.



And Islamic terrorists aren't just "some Muslims". Are we supposed to generalize all Muslims because there are a ton of terrorists in the same religion that act louder than the moderate ones?

There are even crazy and dangerous Hillary supporters—or have you not heard of the death threats the 15 year old girl Weiner was talking to got from Hillary supporters for "ruining her election"? Or how about the Democratic convention in Nevada? Where ever you look you will find the shadow of someone or something good. It isn't exclusive to conservatives. They just get the most heat for their crazies.
I think that's one of the main reasons why republicans don't want Trump, but they'd rather have a renegade, inexperienced idiot over a competent corrupt person who'll keep status quo.

Republicans doing it is understandable, given Bernie is an enemy and stands against what they want. But why did the Democrats choose him and then work against him actively? They got pretty lucky that the steam Bernie picked up wasn't enough, especially against Hillary/Democrats' corruption.

Or, are we supposed to generalize all whites because there are quite a few of them mass shooting people and saying racist stuff, especially to Kaepernick?

I thought Weiner was getting those death threats. Could be that there are more republican crazies that are louder though, especially on Trump's side. His supporters punch protesters, and Trump encourages it. He even threatened to beat up a BLM supporter if one ever disrupted his rally, and he and his supporters encourage people to not accept him losing if he does. At least Hillary's supporters are just deluded that she's a good person.
 

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I think that's one of the main reasons why republicans don't want Trump, but they'd rather have a renegade, inexperienced idiot over a competent corrupt person who'll keep status quo.

Republicans doing it is understandable, given Bernie is an enemy and stands against what they want. But why did the Democrats choose him and then work against him actively? They got pretty lucky that the steam Bernie picked up wasn't enough, especially against Hillary/Democrats' corruption.

Or, are we supposed to generalize all whites because there are quite a few of them mass shooting people and saying racist stuff, especially to Kaepernick?

I thought Weiner was getting those death threats. Could be that there are more republican crazies that are louder though, especially on Trump's side. His supporters punch protesters, and Trump encourages it. He even threatened to beat up a BLM supporter if one ever disrupted his rally, and he and his supporters encourage people to not accept him losing if he does. At least Hillary's supporters are just deluded that she's a good person.
If you think about how it for the Republicans it would have been an "easier" fight if they still had Hillary and Bernie clawing at each others' throats. A divided party is a weakened party, after all. I would think that the Republicans would want that.

And the answer to that is: no, we shouldn't. No matter how many racists there are among white people, most white people aren't racist and it would be ignorant and wrong to presume they all are based on the actions of a minority.

I don't know about him, but the girl got some threats too. She also makes mention of some of these things in her open letter to Comey:

I thought your job as FBI Director was to protect me. I thought if I cooperated with your investigation, my identity as a minor would be kept secret. That is no longer the case. My family and I are barraged by reporters’ phone calls and emails. I have been even been blamed in a newspaper for causing Donald Trump to now be leading in some polls and costing Hillary the election.
They aren't louder. You just pay more attention to them and so does the rest of the world.
 

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Aaaannd hillary is down to 65. honestly, if by election day her downward trend has not shifted i think trump is going to surprise us. its a shame democrats did not go full on panic mode months ago and worst, got overconfident when hillary got over 80.
 

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Aaaannd hillary is down to 65. honestly, if by election day her downward trend has not shifted i think trump is going to surprise us. its a shame democrats did not go full on panic mode months ago and worst, got overconfident when hillary got over 80.
I have a feeling it'll blow over before election day, or Comey will have to release intelligence regarding the potential Russian connections in Trump's staff to play it fair.
 

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Seems like clinton's falltempo declines.
I think we will see her go down to slightly above 60 until the 6th and then rise some until election day.
I feel like she is going to be at 66 or so by november 8th.
 

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If you think about how it for the Republicans it would have been an "easier" fight if they still had Hillary and Bernie clawing at each others' throats. A divided party is a weakened party, after all. I would think that the Republicans would want that.

And the answer to that is: no, we shouldn't. No matter how many racists there are among white people, most white people aren't racist and it would be ignorant and wrong to presume they all are based on the actions of a minority.

I don't know about him, but the girl got some threats too. She also makes mention of some of these things in her open letter to Comey:



They aren't louder. You just pay more attention to them and so does the rest of the world.
Not really, as Bernie would likely have preferred to concede to prevent Trump from winning. I mean, that's the main reason why he's endorsing Hillary, because he's completely against Trump.

But how minority is a minority? The reaction to Kaepernick kneeling shows that there are tons of messed up people, many who threaten to shoot him. He did nothing wrong, but people are still angry about it. I've also heard about "anonymous" Twitter accounts that say racist things, and when their information gets revealed, they start apologizing.

Shame on those Hillary supporters. At least they haven't done anything yet, unlike a lot of Trump supporters who attacked minorities, and many white people who have attacked brown people or desecrated their places of worship.

They are louder. It's why they get more attention.
Aaaannd hillary is down to 65. honestly, if by election day her downward trend has not shifted i think trump is going to surprise us. its a shame democrats did not go full on panic mode months ago and worst, got overconfident when hillary got over 80.
America finally waking up to her bullshit. Too bad it's too late.
 

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Not really, as Bernie would likely have preferred to concede to prevent Trump from winning. I mean, that's the main reason why he's endorsing Hillary, because he's completely against Trump.

But how minority is a minority? The reaction to Kaepernick kneeling shows that there are tons of messed up people, many who threaten to shoot him. He did nothing wrong, but people are still angry about it. I've also heard about "anonymous" Twitter accounts that say racist things, and when their information gets revealed, they start apologizing.

Shame on those Hillary supporters. At least they haven't done anything yet, unlike a lot of Trump supporters who attacked minorities, and many white people who have attacked brown people or desecrated their places of worship.

They are louder. It's why they get more attention.
Yea, Bernie I agree on, I just meant it is weird the Republicans didn't try to cash out on it instead of helping Hillary throw him out of the eye of the public.

They're a minority. Do you actually believe most white people are racist or anything like the bad seeds in Trump's supporters? How can you think that train of thought—of demonizing conservatives, millions of them, based on the notion that they all act like the few assholes—is okay? And they're supposed to be the bad people?

Really? "A shame on those Hillary supporters"? They threatened a child, a victim, and its just a "shame"? If this had been a supporter of Trump you'd be in this thread the second it happened saying just how evil all conservatives are. And really, they haven't attacked people? Or wait, is being a minority the only thing that matters if you are assaulted?

(Regardless of whether she was acting when she "hit" the floor or the really clickbaiting titles (finding some that were was a bit hard), you can really see how crazy anyone can get.)

I gave multiple sources, some of which include additional footage and details. There is also this video where her supporters attack one dude and try to cover his face from the cameras to hide it. Or even this:

(watch the entire video for this one)

Though I have a feeling none of these videos will even be watched or considered, it is worth providing.

That's hundreds and thousands of people doing that to Trump supporters and yet you, and most media outlets, makes no mention of this. Yet when a Trump supporter says something stupid or racist, its all over the news and conservatives are all labeled the same as the person who did the wrong.

So no, they're not louder. Your bias, and that of most U.S new outlets, only wants to listen to the crazies on the right side of the field. That's to be expected though in a time where generalizing white people is apparently okay because a minority of them did something stupid or racist (or because they aren't a minority). That's just the shitty world we live in now.

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So...anyone read the news concerning the email scandal from Wikileaks? They found emails where John Podesta warned her over and over again to stop discussing sensitive information via email even after leaving State Department.

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Holy hell, the contents of the leaked emails is disturbing as af.

EDIT 3​

Oh, look, Twitter banning hashtags and tweets relevant to the emails. Surprising. :heh
 
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