American Politics

[shionoro]

SO Jill is actually gonna do it, isn't she?
Seems like this season of america will have some deleted scenes added to it.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

I really have mixed feelings about this one.
On one side, it's always great to verify how many counts are there; verifications are quite mandatory if you want to see the actual results, instead of going through one sweep and think it's the absolute result. On the other, if she really thought this through, she should've never run for Presidency and just gave her support to Hillary Clinton (not that it would've actually mattered anyways, because I doubt people who wanted to vote for Jill would want to vote for Hillary).

 

[shionoro]

Honestly? Running with trump by now might be better for america than giving all the angry nazis (or right alternative or however u wanna call them) a reason to actually make it seem like trump got stolen the presidency, even if the count was on clinton's side.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

That too. The whole riots going around in the country would be nothing compared to what exactly would have happened if Trump got his presidency stolen.

 

[kkck]

Dunno, I don't think wven trump supporterd expected trump to win. if they thought they were going to loose then their reaction to loosing would have been, well, what you'd expect from that. people who voted for hillary thought she was going to win and she actually won the popular vote. even if there were protests, a significant portion of the republican party is not as pro trump as it was anti clinton. in turn, all of the Democratic party is against trump.

 

[xi0]

Wait, I thought majority were Quakers and/or Puritans at the time? I know Christians definitely didn't immigrate here first, it was probably the Quakers.

Quakers are Christian...

 

[M3J]

Dunno, I don't think wven trump supporterd expected trump to win. if they thought they were going to loose then their reaction to loosing would have been, well, what you'd expect from that. people who voted for hillary thought she was going to win and she actually won the popular vote. even if there were protests, a significant portion of the republican party is not as pro trump as it was anti clinton. in turn, all of the Democratic party is against trump.

pretty sure Trump supporters were confident Trump would win, especially if a lot of voters knew that not all Trump supporters were out there.

I'm not sure why Trump supporters are acting as if they wouldn't have rioted if Hillary won when they promised exactly that.

Quakers are Christian...

Aren't they offshoots of Christians, like Catholics? Quakers are the group that got persecuted because they didn't believe in bowing to the king, right?

 

[xi0]

Aren't they offshoots of Christians, like Catholics? Quakers are the group that got persecuted because they didn't believe in bowing to the king, right?

Errrr...Catholics are Christian too. In the West you mostly have Catholics and Protestants, the latter basically being an offshoot of Catholicism. In that way, Quakers were an offshoot of the Anglican Church of England.

 

[Franckie]

CHeny is nowhere near as bad as Trump or his supporters.

That was directed at shionoro though. He thinks Hillary lost because of character assassination when she lost because she and the democrats failed.

There are three big reasons Clinton lost: Bitter Bernie, Crooked Comey, and the Wounded Working Class. You can read the analysis here.

http://www.vox.com/2016/11/23/13735102/betsy-devos-education-donald-trump

Meet your new a Secretary of Education: billionaire, creationist, charter school advocate, she's anti-gay marriage, daughter of Amway founder, sister of Blackwater CEO, she is the largest donor to the worst Religious Right hate groups.

#DrainTheSwamp #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

http://www.eclectablog.com/2016/11/...oided-paying-school-taxes-on-summer-home.html

Not too mention deadbeat too. She and her husband do their utmost to avoid paying taxes. Not surprising since Trump and his sycophants liken any form of taxation to theft and game the tax code to reduce their tax bills to "zero". The Republican donor class is composed of the ultimate deadbeats in the USA.

 

[kkck]

http://www.vox.com/2016/11/23/13735102/betsy-devos-education-donald-trump

Meet your new a Secretary of Education: billionaire, creationist, charter school advocate, she's anti-gay marriage, daughter of Amway founder, sister of Blackwater CEO, she is the largest donor to the worst Religious Right hate groups.

#DrainTheSwamp #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Holy crap. if she gets her ideas implemented she could cause more long term damage than trump himself (unless trump nukes something i guess ).

 

[xi0]

http://www.eclectablog.com/2016/11/...oided-paying-school-taxes-on-summer-home.html

Not too mention deadbeat too. She and her husband do their utmost to avoid paying taxes. Not surprising since Trump and his sycophants liken any form of taxation to theft and game the tax code to reduce their tax bills to "zero". The Republican donor class is composed of the ultimate deadbeats in the USA.

The excuse given for this kind of thing is usually related to them doing it to the benefit of their shareholders. Well, at least when it comes to Trump.

 

[M3J]

Errrr...Catholics are Christian too. In the West you mostly have Catholics and Protestants, the latter basically being an offshoot of Catholicism. In that way, Quakers were an offshoot of the Anglican Church of England.

oh, I see.

There are three big reasons Clinton lost: Bitter Bernie, Crooked Comey, and the Wounded Working Class. You can read the analysis here.

So many things wrong with that, and it's such a huge blame-deflector. No matter what they say, it's a fact that Hillary and democrats deserve the blame, not millennials, Bernie, or Comey. Hillary did a shit job in making herself look good and inspiring people to vote for her, while the democrats showed how corrupt they were with their shit about Bernie, which caused a lot of people to lose faith. If the dems don't realize how they royally fucked this up, they might as well retire the party.

 

[Philia]

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

My god, the irony (if he actually did said that).


I really liked how Obama sends his condolences to the Castro family, rather than feeling sorry for his death. How his letter was written is something that doesn't sound like an endorsement or anything that sounds like what Justine Trudeau said about him.
Meanwhile, on Trump's twitter: "Fidel Castro is dead!!!!!!!"

 

[xi0]

Is Trudeau high? Tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people?

 

[M3J]

Trudeau's dad was friends with Castro, apparently. At least Trump has the right idea about Castro.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Now people are pulling the conspiracy theory that Trudeau is Castro's son.
Surely, he did fucked up badly now.

 

[xi0]

Trudeau's dad was friends with Castro, apparently. At least Trump has the right idea about Castro.

No, neither are probably "right". Trump's understanding is that of the average Cold War kid who spent time in school with their heads under desks on a regular basis. Obama was plenty diplomatic without fawning over him.

 

[M3J]

I bet the right wings had a field day with this and pointed out the "irony" behind the left mourning Castro's death. Why are we mourning his death anyway? Wasn't he a bad person? Or are we mourning because left likes communism, according to my paraphrasing of right wings' complaints?

 

[shionoro]

Castro was a dictator with good intentions. Other dictators who are claimed to have got intentions don't get glorified by the left, so castro shouldnt, either.
He killed lots of ppl, we shouldnt forget that.

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But i really dont see the american left glorifying him atm (didnt check a lot tho) It is the european left.