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I don't know how rigged it was, but the "MSM" being against him was more likely due to Trump being that bad... though it was biased towards Hillary as well. I'm not sure just how corrupt or rigged many of those things are, as I've noticed that Trump supporters do tend to lie or believe fake news. it's funny though, Hillary should have had this in the bag given everything, but her incompetence and being so corrupt made her lose. It's beyond frustrating that dems keep blaming everyone but themselves. I'm not sure if Obama was really asking illegals to vote or if he was hiding behind that as he was deporting illegal immigrants.

Trump has shown to be pretty corrupted though, at least as a businessman. There's no reason not to believe he'll be any different as a president as well, even though he claimed he's stepping away from his businesses. I'm assuming that based on his past, but I'm bringing up what foreign leaders are doing/thinkin to show what they think of Trump. the way Trump did his campaign is what most likely made people think he'd lose, spreading hatred and everything.

Ha, you probably didn't read my earlier posts. I'm anti-Trump through and through, just not unfairly show. Hillary seems like a better choice so far, especially since she has experience and everything.

I think Trump was lying. From what I've read about conservatives and republicans, they lie and lie, especially because they know their supporters will believe anything. It's most likely why Trump is lying, and he probably doesn't care much about this at all. But then again, from what I've experienced and read, I have no positive view or thoughts of conservatives, other than knowing the country needs them as much as they need liberals.

Just as bad is Cruz being against net neutrality.


you know what I mean.
I know about most Muslims' views. As much as I defend Muslims, I very much dislike Islam as a religion as much as I dislike Christianity.

But the amount of refugees that come into the country need some sort of aid and job. the country would be spending money to give them aid and everythin to survive, and some companies might try to give them jobs, which would take away jobs from natives, who would blame the Muslims instead of companies.
It is not even like 10.000 available low income jobs would do a lot in your country.
U got 7,4million unemployed people. Even if all of the (not quite yet) 10.000 were in working age and condition and all of them got a job that would hardly change anything in the jobmarket.
It is just a nonsensial discussion because the number is completely meaningless.
Even if it were 10.000 ACTUAL CRIMINALS it would not give you much of a rise in crime when you look at your crimerates.
 

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I don't know how rigged it was, but the "MSM" being against him was more likely due to Trump being that bad... though it was biased towards Hillary as well. I'm not sure just how corrupt or rigged many of those things are, as I've noticed that Trump supporters do tend to lie or believe fake news. it's funny though, Hillary should have had this in the bag given everything, but her incompetence and being so corrupt made her lose. It's beyond frustrating that dems keep blaming everyone but themselves. I'm not sure if Obama was really asking illegals to vote or if he was hiding behind that as he was deporting illegal immigrants.

Trump has shown to be pretty corrupted though, at least as a businessman. There's no reason not to believe he'll be any different as a president as well, even though he claimed he's stepping away from his businesses. I'm assuming that based on his past, but I'm bringing up what foreign leaders are doing/thinkin to show what they think of Trump. the way Trump did his campaign is what most likely made people think he'd lose, spreading hatred and everything.

Ha, you probably didn't read my earlier posts. I'm anti-Trump through and through, just not unfairly show. Hillary seems like a better choice so far, especially since she has experience and everything.

I think Trump was lying. From what I've read about conservatives and republicans, they lie and lie, especially because they know their supporters will believe anything. It's most likely why Trump is lying, and he probably doesn't care much about this at all. But then again, from what I've experienced and read, I have no positive view or thoughts of conservatives, other than knowing the country needs them as much as they need liberals.

Just as bad is Cruz being against net neutrality.
Well it wasn't because Trump was bad, it was just because MSM wanted Hillary in. They were against Bernie too, and he wasn't bad. They wanted that female president, Democrat and everything, so they did whatever they could to make sure that it happened. Including passing debate questions over, rigging debates in DNC favor, refusing to discuss or view negative issues concerning only Hillary until the very end (until it almost didn't matter) etc etc.

Hmm, well when a Latino woman asked him if her illegals (she said she refused to call them that because they "contribute") went out to vote, would they have to fear being caught and deported. Obama said "that's simply not true" and went on discussing how they and legal Mexican immigrants (which isn't the problem) could go out and vote without fear of being deported/getting in trouble (or even for illegal friends and family).

(please ignore baity title and source; video is all that is important)

Perhaps he got confused and was afraid to say "they can't vote" and danced around the subject, but to many people it paints an image that he's okay with it because verbally that's what he led the reporter and people to think. He never came out to clarify his stance either and took to call them "dreamers" instead. If his intention wasn't what he said above or what most at large hear, why didn't he come out to explain? It's a pretty big issue that has seen attention not only on conservative sources.

I wouldn't know much about his business life, but I don't see evidence of him being corrupt. Not yet at least. And I haven't seen any attempts to spread hate and bigotry either except through individuals at his rallies. I think the worst people have are the uncovered audio of him talking about sexual conquests and how if you got money, women will let you do anything to them (which is outlandishly labeled rape). A lot of that "hate message" came through careful (and now admitted/proven) manipulation by MSM like CNN and MSNBC.

Yea, I know you're anti-Trump but you don't seem like a mindless sheep against Trump. Basically what I mean is: I may disagree with what you are saying and who you think would be better, but so far you don't seem biased to me.

I don't think its fair to say Republicans/conservatives like to lie or go out of their way to lie, not at large at least. Their image is unfairly represented by big mouth idiots on Fox News. For example, a MSM Democrat would try to tell you the south is full of racists etc but reality is, most southerns (who are conservatives) aren't. It is only believed through stories MSM pushes out to the public. Whenever a mishap happens by a Republican, or even a lie, they take to it like moths to a flame to try and inflame the issue to make it look bigger than it actually is. So that a Democrat can call them all "deplorable" and nobody but those targeted people will care. The same issue with Republicans toward Democratic issues. When we have MSM ignoring something like Hillary's email scandal or Fox News ignoring Trump related scandals like potential ties to Russia, it creates a problem. Though to be honest, lying seems like a trait every single politician possess (not that it makes it any better of course).

I don't know enough about net neutrality (conflicting sources and information) to make a comment on that, sadly. :nomoar I'd be willing to learn if you're willing to explain it though.
 

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I don't know enough about net neutrality (conflicting sources and information) to make a comment on that, sadly. :nomoar I'd be willing to learn if you're willing to explain it though.
It most stems from this tweet. I believe he also spoke on the Senate floor deliberately comparing it to Obamacare, and then it came out that Big Telecom companies like Comcast had donated to his election campaign not too long after he took this stance. The guy is and always has been a shill; a Tea Party member brought to DC to "fix the system", but he's the same exact garbage he was supposed to be against. This was a pretty thorough take down of this entire fiasco.

And it's worth noting that regardless of who Big Telecom tried to pay off to smear the shit out of the measure, it thankfully still passed and all attempts to appeal it so far have failed.
 

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It most stems from this tweet. I believe he also spoke on the Senate floor deliberately comparing it to Obamacare, and then it came out that Big Telecom companies like Comcast had donated to his election campaign not too long after he took this stance. The guy is and always has been a shill; a Tea Party member brought to DC to "fix the system", but he's the same exact garbage he was supposed to be against. This was a pretty thorough take down of this entire fiasco.

And it's worth noting that regardless of who Big Telecom tried to pay off to smear the shit out of the measure, it thankfully still passed and all attempts to appeal it so far have failed.
Thank you for taking the time to give me his tweet and that (hilarious) rundown of what net neutrality is, I really appreciate it. I'm going to go ahead and say Ted Cruz knew exactly what it was and just didn't care. He was paid to say it and he was happy about it. It makes me even happier to know that turd didn't get elected.

(Does Netflix still have to pay Comcast? I'm hope not but hopes are for children it seems. lol)
 

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Why are democrats mad about this pick. Didnt Hillary Clinton like Goldman Sachs, and thus, by extension democrats should too.
 

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I don't think it's just the Democrats that are mad about his picks; it's the people who're also mad.
People voted for Trump because they think he's anti-establishment (although there are some cases that people voted for him because they're anti-Hillary, same reason why anti-Trumps voted for Hillary), especially his comments about draining the swamp; the problem here is that he's doing the opposite of "draining the swamp".
 

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It is not even like 10.000 available low income jobs would do a lot in your country.
U got 7,4million unemployed people. Even if all of the (not quite yet) 10.000 were in working age and condition and all of them got a job that would hardly change anything in the jobmarket.
It is just a nonsensial discussion because the number is completely meaningless.
Even if it were 10.000 ACTUAL CRIMINALS it would not give you much of a rise in crime when you look at your crimerates.
You'd be shocked at how wrong you are. And that'll just piss off the citizens because they'll think their jobs were stolen by these refugees while they were hung out to dry.

Well it wasn't because Trump was bad, it was just because MSM wanted Hillary in. They were against Bernie too, and he wasn't bad. They wanted that female president, Democrat and everything, so they did whatever they could to make sure that it happened. Including passing debate questions over, rigging debates in DNC favor, refusing to discuss or view negative issues concerning only Hillary until the very end (until it almost didn't matter) etc etc.
True, too biased towards Hillary, and look at what happened. But I'm sure Trump was targeted more because of the stupid shit he said as I barely saw "MSM" talk shit about other candidates, except for maybe Cruz. I

Hmm, well when a Latino woman asked him if her illegals (she said she refused to call them that because they "contribute") went out to vote, would they have to fear being caught and deported. Obama said "that's simply not true" and went on discussing how they and legal Mexican immigrants (which isn't the problem) could go out and vote without fear of being deported/getting in trouble (or even for illegal friends and family).

(please ignore baity title and source; video is all that is important)

Perhaps he got confused and was afraid to say "they can't vote" and danced around the subject, but to many people it paints an image that he's okay with it because verbally that's what he led the reporter and people to think. He never came out to clarify his stance either and took to call them "dreamers" instead. If his intention wasn't what he said above or what most at large hear, why didn't he come out to explain? It's a pretty big issue that has seen attention not only on conservative sources.
Obama was lying then as he's been okay with deporting illegal immigrants. As mentioned, more illegal immigrants have been deported under him than any other president. I'm not sure if he really meant letting illegal immigrants vote or if it was part of his plan. Probably pandering to liberals.

I wouldn't know much about his business life, but I don't see evidence of him being corrupt. Not yet at least. And I haven't seen any attempts to spread hate and bigotry either except through individuals at his rallies. I think the worst people have are the uncovered audio of him talking about sexual conquests and how if you got money, women will let you do anything to them (which is outlandishly labeled rape). A lot of that "hate message" came through careful (and now admitted/proven) manipulation by MSM like CNN and MSNBC.

Yea, I know you're anti-Trump but you don't seem like a mindless sheep against Trump. Basically what I mean is: I may disagree with what you are saying and who you think would be better, but so far you don't seem biased to me.

I don't think its fair to say Republicans/conservatives like to lie or go out of their way to lie, not at large at least. Their image is unfairly represented by big mouth idiots on Fox News. For example, a MSM Democrat would try to tell you the south is full of racists etc but reality is, most southerns (who are conservatives) aren't. It is only believed through stories MSM pushes out to the public. Whenever a mishap happens by a Republican, or even a lie, they take to it like moths to a flame to try and inflame the issue to make it look bigger than it actually is. So that a Democrat can call them all "deplorable" and nobody but those targeted people will care. The same issue with Republicans toward Democratic issues. When we have MSM ignoring something like Hillary's email scandal or Fox News ignoring Trump related scandals like potential ties to Russia, it creates a problem. Though to be honest, lying seems like a trait every single politician possess (not that it makes it any better of course).

I don't know enough about net neutrality (conflicting sources and information) to make a comment on that, sadly. :nomoar I'd be willing to learn if you're willing to explain it though.
Didn't Trump admit to paying off politicians and other people to get what he wanted? Then he bragged about cheating businesses, instead of paying them full amount he paid 70% or so. THen he lied when he said he didn't like their work despite using them over and over. I'm pretty sure the hate and bigotry came from him saying stuff like beating up BLM if they disrupt his rallies and wanting to ban Muslims, even lying about how he saw them celebrating. That is spreading hatred and encouraging bigotry, even if he didn't say they should be treated badly. Trump also supported sexual assault when he said "grab them by the pussy," unless the full conversation or context was with consent from women.

I'm biased against Trump, honestly. Instinct would immediately

I've seen and heard them lie, from claiming 97% of services performed by Planned Parenthood are abortions to saying the US doesn't vet its refugees well enough, and many of them are terrorists. I have no reason to believe most are honest or a lot of things they say are honest, and so far, conservatives have proven to be immensely ignorant to problems and claim that if they can do it, anyone can. It's worse because they lie despite facts and stats, as Trump has done. I'm not sure if a MSM democrat would claim that, or if MSM would. From what I've seen, MSM has more conservatively biased sources than liberal.

I've seen tweets and posts from Trump supporters. Majority are deplorable, and the fact that they're free in our society is scary.


Dunno if you still want me to explain net neutrality.
 

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gop-i...y-222200857.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb

First a huge blow-out against Minimum Wages for the working class, now this huge dick slap in the face. Either this means Social Security gets privatized (which would be a fucking disaster), or nobody by a certain year gets Social Security.

Now, about the Russia Hackers thing: Assuming the CIA holds true to its words about helping Trump rig the Election, then that *might* be enough reasons for the EC to not vote for Trump and dump him for another candidate. I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens from now till the 19.
 

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I wouldn't expect the hacking thing to be much of a thing for the EC. for one thing , we already knew this. or to be more precise, we had plenty of reason to think this was the case. in this context it is not something that makes trump worst. the issue regarding the hacking is that Russia right now has got the US by the balls. all russia has to do is twist. if russia has us emails we can be pretty sure there is going to be some nasty stuff in there . why did russia release the dnc emails? to help trump. why did they want to help trump? because he made the point his policies were going to be friendly for russia. or worst, enable russia. so what comes next? it's easy.... if trump spreads his legs for putin to do as he pleases then russia withholds the emails. if trump even vaguely implies he needs a rest from having his legs spread that wide them russia releases the emails and destabilizes the US. congrats US, a country with an economy barely bigger than mexico has you by the balls.
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well, apparently trump is going to appoint an exxonmobile executive to secretary of state. that is not even a tiny bit ominous . #DRAINTHESWAMP
 

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This is the second time I've ever been embarrassed with our country's president, the first being George W. Bush. Trump has a legal right to govern, but lacks democratic consent. Unfortunately, Republicans will conveniently ignore this by doubling down on policies that antagonize the national plurality and marginalize their political power. Since we're at it, why don't we call in the US military to curtail their rights since that seems to be the direction we're heading toward.

Seeing Trump and his allies deny the obvious role of Russia interfering in our election is beyond tolerable. I can't help but think of the GOP establishment as a criminal enterprise conspiring to enrich its leaders. I'm also becoming increasingly frustrated with GOP voters who publicly back them despite admitting to me in private they have similar thoughts as I do. It's one of several key reasons I quit the Republican Party years ago and never looked back.
Sadly, if the democrats were in the GOP's situation, they'd probably react the same - not give a shit and deny Russia's involvement. They're just as bad, honestly, and I only see Bernie being the good of all the politicians I know so far.

Can't help but think we'd have been equally fucked no matter which of the two won. :\
 

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Hey guys, ever heard of a guy named Lyndon LaRouche and his "Four Laws" proposal?

His main points are:

  • Bring back the Glass-Steagal Act
  • Reforming the National Banking system to fund more manufacturing
  • Energy-flux density theory
  • Nuclear Fusion Power
Opinions?
 

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Hey guys, ever heard of a guy named Lyndon LaRouche and his "Four Laws" proposal?

His main points are:

  • Bring back the Glass-Steagal Act
  • Reforming the National Banking system to fund more manufacturing
  • Energy-flux density theory
  • Nuclear Fusion Power
Opinions?
I would be concerned about the more manufacturing part. Just because it is funded does not mean the US will be suddenly competitive in an area. It would depend on the industry and what specifically is done here. In the end I would still think manufacturing, in the context of middle class people with factory jobs, is a lost cause within the mid term. The direction things are going seems to be automation. To me it would make more sense to focus on educating the people who would want these jobs.

No idea of what energy-flux density theory is.

Isn't nuclear fusion decades away? I wouldn't object to it but it's so far away that having it as policy seems moot. It makes sense to invest there given the potential but it won't make a difference for a generation. I would argue the green technologies people are already implementing make more sense. The development that has been made over the past few years are staggering and there is plenty of potential to grow quickly. Meanwhile invest in fusion energy so that a generation from now we can enjoy the benefits from that.
 

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Sorry, I need to make a correction. What he proposed on strengthening the national banking system is so that there would be more funding towards infrastructure spending, not manufacturing. Sorry, my mind must've been fuzzy.

As for that theory of his, from what I can understand, he argues that what is needed is to measure the density of the labor used in certain areas, such as infrastructures, not the overall amount of labor used throughout the country. Focusing on infrastructure spending would be the key to make this work and lead to a better economic output.

I'm personally against Nuclear Power. Not only is it costly, it's also a high-risk (and high-reward) source of energy because, all it takes is one little thing to screw the whole thing into a toxic wasteland. Chernobyl and Fukushima are prime examples.
 

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I am for-Glass Steagal returning. Granted, I think it does need some update and reform to meet with modern-day era, but I think it is necessary for it to come back (as well as other Banking Regulations).
I've seen this argument about it in a different forum, and how this one Anti-Government guy even agrees on such a bill returning because it did its job in protecting the people. Besides, the point of a Bank is to protect the depositor's money, not to be used for gambling and other Banking Commercials.

Don't agree with the Nuclear Fusion Power; it's as you said: it's costly and a dangerous source of energy.

The rest, I'm unsure/uncertain about.
 

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Sorry, I need to make a correction. What he proposed on strengthening the national banking system is so that there would be more funding towards infrastructure spending, not manufacturing. Sorry, my mind must've been fuzzy.

As for that theory of his, from what I can understand, he argues that what is needed is to measure the density of the labor used in certain areas, such as infrastructures, not the overall amount of labor used throughout the country. Focusing on infrastructure spending would be the key to make this work and lead to a better economic output.

I'm personally against Nuclear Power. Not only is it costly, it's also a high-risk (and high-reward) source of energy because, all it takes is one little thing to screw the whole thing into a toxic wasteland. Chernobyl and Fukushima are prime examples.
The infraestructure spending is something that makes sense. Unfortunately the current government is all about cutting spending.

Well, that would at least help give more context regarding specific states or areas. It's one thing to look at the country's overall economic performance another how a single place is doing. I think this was one of obama's mistakes, he didn't pay much attention at the smaller states.

Nuclear power isn't costly. The initial investment for the plant is fairly large however once that is done producing energy is incredibly cost effective. As for chernobyl and fukushima, they are examples of precisely the opposite of "one little thing going wrong". To the best of my knowledge, both plants had been neglected for years by the time the disasters happened. The disasters in either case were entirely preventable.
 

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Sadly, if the democrats were in the GOP's situation, they'd probably react the same - not give a shit and deny Russia's involvement. They're just as bad, honestly, and I only see Bernie being the good of all the politicians I know so far.

Can't help but think we'd have been equally fucked no matter which of the two won. :\
On the Russian issue, certainly not. Prior to the election, only one party was engaged in mass conspiracy theories, asked a foreign dictator to meddle in our election, routinely praised said dictator, and still denies Russian involvement. Hint: The party's name starts with a R.

The real reason the US is fucked is because we have a minority government living in its own reality and despises most of the country, even their own. Our federal system isn't reflective of the national plurality since Democrats are locked out of all 3 branches of government. Hardcore Republicanism is reactionary politics, which is toxic to Democrats, but even to a plurality of the Republican base. The problem though is that while their voting base tends to hold both parties in equal contempt, they always blame Democrats before holding their own accountable.

I tend to be cynical about politics, but what has even surprised me at this point is how quickly hardcore Republicans I speak with on a daily basis have warmed up to the idea of permanently disenfranchising Democrats. Originally they attacked Democrats and their allies through indirect means (e.g. exaggerated voter fraud), but now they're blatant about it. Anyone who is perceived as "one of those people" (aka Democrats) must be sent to prison, deported (even if you're a citizen by birth), and on a few occasions, killed. And the scary part is that I live in a swing state, where demographics are supposed to tether such extremism. Instead, such extremism is continually rewarded and procyclical.

Once upon a time I dismissed the idea of the US becoming a permanent dictatorship as utter nonsense. Now I'm increasingly convinced we're on the verge of becoming like Russia in the foreseeable future since Republicans will utilize federal power to do things like impose their policies on states where Democrats control at the state level. Heck, we've survived things like George W. Bush, the Civil War, WWII, etc. But this is something else. I don't know if we can survive an era where we continually elect toddlers like Trump at all levels of federal power. I can't get used to this since it's like watching a toddler playing with a gun - you're always nervous.
 

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On the Russian issue, certainly not. Prior to the election, only one party was engaged in mass conspiracy theories, asked a foreign dictator to meddle in our election, routinely praised said dictator, and still denies Russian involvement. Hint: The party's name starts with a R.

The real reason the US is fucked is because we have a minority government living in its own reality and despises most of the country, even their own. Our federal system isn't reflective of the national plurality since Democrats are locked out of all 3 branches of government. Hardcore Republicanism is reactionary politics, which is toxic to Democrats, but even to a plurality of the Republican base. The problem though is that while their voting base tends to hold both parties in equal contempt, they always blame Democrats before holding their own accountable.

I tend to be cynical about politics, but what has even surprised me at this point is how quickly hardcore Republicans I speak with on a daily basis have warmed up to the idea of permanently disenfranchising Democrats. Originally they attacked Democrats and their allies through indirect means (e.g. exaggerated voter fraud), but now they're blatant about it. Anyone who is perceived as "one of those people" (aka Democrats) must be sent to prison, deported (even if you're a citizen by birth), and on a few occasions, killed. And the scary part is that I live in a swing state, where demographics are supposed to tether such extremism. Instead, such extremism is continually rewarded and procyclical.

Once upon a time I dismissed the idea of the US becoming a permanent dictatorship as utter nonsense. Now I'm increasingly convinced we're on the verge of becoming like Russia in the foreseeable future since Republicans will utilize federal power to do things like impose their policies on states where Democrats control at the state level. Heck, we've survived things like George W. Bush, the Civil War, WWII, etc. But this is something else. I don't know if we can survive an era where we continually elect toddlers like Trump at all levels of federal power. I can't get used to this since it's like watching a toddler playing with a gun - you're always nervous.
Well, however bad things are I doubt things are nearly as bad as the civil war times. I mean, there was an actual civil war going on back then.

That said, it is a very bad scenario that the US is governed by a party which does less than represent the majority of the people. IMHO the next few years will be relatively chaotic by US standards considering how things are developing.

- As I mentioned earlier, Russia has the US by the balls. So far it was only emails concerning the election that were leaked. But if you think about it DNC and RNC hacked emails are bound to have A LOT more information than merely that. I mean, I doubt they hacked only the election concerned emails at least. So Russia, or whoever hacked the emails, is merely waiting until it is politically convenient to release the emails. Can you imagine what the republican emails must have said about trump early in the campaign? Can you imagine what it would do to trump to have every single negative email about him from the RNC? I can already imagine the 3am twitter rant from that.

- As it is, trump might likely have relatively little support from congress. Even now he is at odds with his party regarding the russia thing and he is not even president yet. At least some republicans have the sense to take the leaked emails seriously. Unlikely trump who is actively trying to destroy the credibility of US intelligence agencies because it is politically convenient.

- Demographics wise republicans are in basically the same position as they were before trump won. That means the vast majority of the of US citizens have serious disagreements with them regarding some policy or another. Be it climate change, obamacare or something else.

- Democrats, a month after being defeated, still do not pull their heads from the depths of their asses. Even now they hardly give an indication that they are going to start running on issues which people actually care about. Instead they are trying to get deeper into their own asses....
 

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Well, however bad things are I doubt things are nearly as bad as the civil war times. I mean, there was an actual civil war going on back then.
The problems we faced then and now are different, but it could lead to similar outcomes. Our rural areas and inner cities have been stagnant for decades, and blight is slowly encroaching upon suburbs now too. A key element that is increasingly radicalizing the public is growing job insecurity. Labor force participation is the lowest its been in decades. Society cannot tolerate increased chronic unemployment for long periods of time. A desperate public quickly radicalizes.

This radicalization isn't symmetric, however. In the US, probably the most visible shift is race. Nonwhites tend to move leftward while whites tend to move rightward. Only the white working-class is slowly, but increasingly, abandoning the Democratic Party in notable waves. Why? Because they help nonwhites, they stand for welfare, they like to spend money on the undeserving, so on and so forth. Electing Republicans though only intensifies the situation as their economic policies are idiotic. As the US increasingly becomes minority-majority though, these attitudes will only sharpen, not lessen.

The Republican Party today is basically a coalition of grievances united by one thing: contempt. Contempt for immigrants, contempt for minorities, contempt for intellectuals, contempt for gays, feminists and many other groups too numerous to mention. What binds them together is contempt for Democrats because they welcome every group Republicans reject. A key turning point for this development is the Republican takeover of the once “Solid South” of the Democratic Party. When the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts broke the Democratic Party’s hold on that region, the G.O.P. moved in to replace it. But in the process, Republicans absorbed the traditions of racism, bigotry, populism, and rule by plutocrats called “Bourbons” that defined the politics of the South after the Civil War. They also inherited an obsession with self-defense, allegiance to evangelical Christianity, exaggerated patriotism, xenophobia, and other cultural characteristics long cultivated in the South.

The Bourbons maintained their power by dividing the poor and working classes along racial lines so that they would not unify for their mutual betterment by raising taxes on the wealthy, improving schools and making government responsive to the needs of the masses rather than protecting the wealth and position of the Bourbons. You can see this with the policies that Southern states have enacted. They have long followed what are now doctrinaire Republican policies: minuscule taxes, no unions, aggressive pro-business policies, privatized public services, and strong police forces that kept nonwhites and poor whites in their place. Yet the South is and always has been our poorest region and shows no sign of converging with the Northeast, which has long followed progressive policies opposite those in the South and been the wealthiest region as well. These policies will now be enacted on a nationwide scale by Republicans along with acts that are increasingly blatant to keep Democrats out of power.

The addition of reactionary Democrats to the traditional Republican coalition increased the party’s strength in the short run and allowed it to take over Congress. But as Southern attitudes have now completely taken over the GOP, its strength outside the South has begun to wane. It simply cannot win nationally as a whites-only party in a nation where the white share of the vote is inexorably shrinking. (Trump only won the electoral college by ~70,000 votes, a sharp rebuke to Clinton's ~2.7 million votes.) Yet the party cannot, will not, change. Instead, what you see is increasing contempt for democracy, which isn't helped by the fact Republicans tend to view Democrats as illegitimate by default. And their increasing hostility to Democrats only feeds increasing hostility toward Republicans. Once we reach the tipping point, Republicans will be convinced the only way to "save the country" is to purge it of the Democratic Party. So bye-bye American democracy and hello Russian-style dictatorship.

That said, it is a very bad scenario that the US is governed by a party which does less than represent the majority of the people. IMHO the next few years will be relatively chaotic by US standards considering how things are developing.

- As I mentioned earlier, Russia has the US by the balls. So far it was only emails concerning the election that were leaked. But if you think about it DNC and RNC hacked emails are bound to have A LOT more information than merely that. I mean, I doubt they hacked only the election concerned emails at least. So Russia, or whoever hacked the emails, is merely waiting until it is politically convenient to release the emails. Can you imagine what the republican emails must have said about trump early in the campaign? Can you imagine what it would do to trump to have every single negative email about him from the RNC? I can already imagine the 3am twitter rant from that.

- As it is, trump might likely have relatively little support from congress. Even now he is at odds with his party regarding the russia thing and he is not even president yet. At least some republicans have the sense to take the leaked emails seriously. Unlikely trump who is actively trying to destroy the credibility of US intelligence agencies because it is politically convenient.

- Demographics wise republicans are in basically the same position as they were before trump won. That means the vast majority of the of US citizens have serious disagreements with them regarding some policy or another. Be it climate change, obamacare or something else.

- Democrats, a month after being defeated, still do not pull their heads from the depths of their asses. Even now they hardly give an indication that they are going to start running on issues which people actually care about. Instead they are trying to get deeper into their own asses....
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/12/10/the-comey-effect/

Surprisingly, Clinton did as well as she could despite all her baggage. Clinton lost 4 points when the letter was released. She eventually gained back some of that, but it looks like 2 points were permanently loss. This matches well with Nate Silver's estimate that Comey cost Clinton 2 points.

This kind of stuff happens to all campaigns at some point. Trump certainly made lots of mistakes, though no one talks about them anymore. The difference here is that things like the Comey letter don't happen to all campaigns. This was an egregious intervention in the campaign by the director of the FBI, who was motivated at least partly by his fear of a rogue group of agents who were obsessed with ousting Clinton.

This is not normal. Comey knew exactly what he was doing. He was warned that his actions would be an unprecedented interference in an election. But he did it anyway, and went ahead in a manner perfectly calculated to do the maximum damage thanks to our guillable press.

Without Comey's letter, Clinton probably would have won the popular vote by 4 points and the Electoral College by 300+ votes. Not sure about the Senate, however. Either way, eliminate the Russian interference and Clinton would have won. Instead, a toddler is our president-elect, and everyone is convinced that Democratics are on their last legs (at the national level, way different story at the state level, however).
 

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http://election.princeton.edu/2016/12/10/the-comey-effect/

Surprisingly, Clinton did as well as she could despite all her baggage. Clinton lost 4 points when the letter was released. She eventually gained back some of that, but it looks like 2 points were permanently loss. This matches well with Nate Silver's estimate that Comey cost Clinton 2 points.

This kind of stuff happens to all campaigns at some point. Trump certainly made lots of mistakes, though no one talks about them anymore. The difference here is that things like the Comey letter don't happen to all campaigns. This was an egregious intervention in the campaign by the director of the FBI, who was motivated at least partly by his fear of a rogue group of agents who were obsessed with ousting Clinton.

This is not normal. Comey knew exactly what he was doing. He was warned that his actions would be an unprecedented interference in an election. But he did it anyway, and went ahead in a manner perfectly calculated to do the maximum damage thanks to our guillable press.

Without Comey's letter, Clinton probably would have won the popular vote by 4 points and the Electoral College by 300+ votes. Not sure about the Senate, however. Either way, eliminate the Russian interference and Clinton would have won. Instead, a toddler is our president-elect, and everyone is convinced that Democratics are on their last legs (at the national level, way different story at the state level, however).
Yeah, the comey bit is still baffling. Everything suggests the letter thing is completely asinine as a whole... Regardless of the circumstances though the issue here is the reputation hit the FBI as a whole took. First getting republicans to question the results and then you had democrats reacting to the letter. Though perhaps the democrats had a stronger point when they reacted to this. In any case through the election you had basically 100% of politicians calling out the FBI on grotesque corruption. Having an institution like the FBI with its reputation destroyed to this level is a disaster and IMO much more severe than what most people think.

I really don't think democrats are on their last leg. Clinton was a horrible candidate with staggering baggage and she still beat trump by 2 points at the popular vote. That's not a small thing. The issue here is by no means people turning into insane republicans that support and enable russia. Trump is president of a country which as a whole does not want him. His policies are going to be incredibly unpopular. The country is only getting more liberal. Of course, trump supporters are a thing but they in fact are not the majority. And while I do think republicans in congress will do as trump says basically, there are at least several of them who don't see him very favorably. So trump does not have popular support for the most part, he has an uneasy alliance with his party and his the stuff he is pushing for is at large vastly unpopular (his stance of climate change, doing the exactly the most extreme opposite of draining the swamp so far and so on). The 2016 general election was the democrats to loose. And they did so not because people loved trump but because hilary was a bad candidate. They can recover the house and senate 2 years from now if they, well, drain the swamp and run a campaign people can actually get behind. They have the votesfor that after all.
 
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