American Politics

[Philia]

Heard a five-year old was hold for five hours in handcuffs in an airport in Washington due the ban. And when Sean Spiver was questioned why a young boy was arrested because of that ban, he said it is stupid to assume because of somebody's age and gender he or she is harmless. I mean, we are talking about a five year old boy here, not a 25 year old known terrorists. And then later it was found out that the boy was actually an US-american citizen.

And now Trump fired the commissary Justice minister for not having the same opinion as him. That seems very chaotic so far what is happening in the White House.

Heard a five-year old was hold for five hours in handcuffs in an airport in Washington due the ban. And when Sean Spiver was questioned why a young boy was arrested because of that ban, he said it is stupid to assume because of somebody's age and gender he or she is harmless. I mean, we are talking about a five year old boy here, not a 25 year old known terrorists. And then later it was found out that the boy was actually an US-american citizen.

And now Trump fired the commissary Justice minister for not having the same opinion as him. That seems very chaotic so far what is happening in the White House.

A lot of shits are happening due to Trump's orders. People should analyze the candidates before voting

 

[James Rye]

Fired for not doing her job you mean.

I dunno about that. I think she was in the right as comissary Justice minister to tell the president that his order is unlawful, or at least parts of it are as proven by several judges overruling aspects over it, but she should have resigned after Trump ignored her advise instead of ignoring the order itself. But the job of a minister is not to tell the president that everything he does is right but to follow the law and constitution and if what the president intends to do is contrary to law and constitution then the minister has to tell Trump that.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Devos is one step closer in being the head of the Department of Education...
I'm not surprised that the FYP Party decided to let her slip, fucking crooks.

 

[M3J]

Heard a five-year old was hold for five hours in handcuffs in an airport in Washington due the ban. And when Sean Spiver was questioned why a young boy was arrested because of that ban, he said it is stupid to assume because of somebody's age and gender he or she is harmless. I mean, we are talking about a five year old boy here, not a 25 year old known terrorists. And then later it was found out that the boy was actually an US-american citizen.

And now Trump fired the commissary Justice minister for not having the same opinion as him. That seems very chaotic so far what is happening in the White House.

Trump fired Sally Yates for doing her job. Trump and his supporters call others crybabies and snowflakes, but Trump is seriously the worst crybaby and biggest snowflake ever. Funny how someone gets fired for doing good things for America. By someone doing unAmerican things and hurting America.


Christ, Trump supporters are the biggest jokes.

Devos is one step closer in being the head of the Department of Education...
I'm not surprised that the FYP Party decided to let her slip, fucking crooks.

fuck the dems, they don't have balls.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

fuck the dems, they don't have balls.

Unless I've been misinformed, all of the Democrats voted no.

 

[M3J]

They're still not doing enough.

I could be misinformed though.

 

[SharkBait]

And btw that's a ban on nationalities not a muslim ban. You can read the actual executive order if you want.

Finally someone posts something reasonable. Nothing about it was about religion.

It is time to be vocal for anyone opposed to this madness because when else would be the time, i ask you again?

Polls show that most Americans agree with Trump.

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Odd when people say Trump is taking rights, when he is doing the opposite. Like my republican party of virginia email said, democrats love the fake outrage machine.

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Unless I've been misinformed, all of the Democrats voted no.

Democratic senators support Trumps picks.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Democratic senators support Trumps picks.

Welp, now I'm convinced that I'm glad that I'm registered as "No Party Affiliation".

 

[xi0]

Democratic senators support Trumps picks.

Uhhh, Angus King isn't a Democrat. He probably caucuses with them like Sanders did when he was an Independent, but I sort of question the validity of the source there.

Also hilarious that Kaine voted "Yes" for all so far (if true). Wow, such a campaign the DNC ran...

 

[Aonori]

Something happened.
The president appointed a person who wants to destroy civil rights and did so whenever it was in his power.
Or is appointing such a man no action?
Here i thought that a president is responsible for who he appoints, silly me.
Obviously trump is not responsible for anything he does and we should give him a chance until he silenced all journalists and purged the government of everyone daring to oppose him.

Jess Sessions, a key trump loyalist, from the get go, I think he deserved this (),
especially after being brought down with a bunch of "racial" remarks, I´m seeing poor evidence of.

Of course this doesnt excuse the decision from being overall diferent from having Trey gowdy or Jason Chaffetz invited in, those two had potential and Trey Gowdy was being hyped up in some channels with the odds of being Attorney General, but Jeff is a experienced veteran compared to those two and trump seems focused on getting as much experienced veterans for his cabinet picks as possible, most likely since he plans to put them to work harshly.

But he´s only telling which news channels are fake news, it´s not about silencing the journalists it´s about having the journalists do their fucking jobs right in the first place.

Also Jeff, is good for Trump´s current policy, of cutting down immigration of countries bombed by the US, which have a larger chance of having some terrorists mixed inside the refugees.

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How can you be glad about trump destroying civil rights?

Trump destroying Civil rights in the USA? Thats rich, trump protesters are already doing that for him bro, sucker punching people and calling them nazis for supporting trump and making people buy guns and ammo, due to insecurity. And there´s a nazi collaborator very happy with the protests (possibly funding them as well) along with ISIS, here are the civil rights in the US, being protested, enjoy.

what Trump is doing is allowed by the Constitution, so far btw.

The multinationalist companies that had relations with the USA, want to profit more by working with mexican workers and have americans unemployed, they deserve whats coming to them, for betraying America.

 

[Philia]

Yare yare.......
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...o-germany-currency-exploitation-a7555506.html

http://www.scmp.com/business/compan...-japan-and-china-trade/currencies#add-comment

By the time Trump leaves He will probably make America the second greatest country in the world...............

MAGA

Uh and accusing Germany too..................

Trump's advisors are probably even worse than him.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Goldman Saccs made a prediction that by 2030, China will become the Number 1 (Economic) country in the World.
Turns out it's half-true, because it may happen sooner than expected.

But Thanks Obama.

 

[Philia]

Goldman Saccs made a prediction that by 2030, China will become the Number 1 (Economic) country in the World.
Turns out it's half-true, because it may happen sooner than expected.

But Thanks Obama.

In terms of PPP Chinese economy already surpassed American economy. In terms of nominal it will also surpass sooner or later. I personally think it will happen before 2025. I think sometime between 2040-50 even Indian economy will surpass USA's. And USA will be reduced to the important third factor which Russia has so far been after the collapse of USSR.

Once countries start trading in local currencies instead of USD(China already started some trading in local currencies with some countries, that's of insignificant amount) it will crush the leverage of USD and weaken US economy hugely.

Lets see what happens. US's political influence is decreasing slowly. They have lost Philippines and will be forced out of Afghanistan someday.

 

[shionoro]

In terms of PPP Chinese economy already surpassed American economy. In terms of nominal it will also surpass sooner or later. I personally think it will happen before 2025. I think sometime between 2040-50 even Indian economy will surpass USA's. And USA will be reduced to the important third factor which Russia has so far been after the collapse of USSR.

Once countries start trading in local currencies instead of USD(China already started some trading in local currencies with some countries, that's of insignificant amount) it will crush the leverage of USD and weaken US economy hugely.

Lets see what happens. US's political influence is decreasing slowly. They have lost Philippines and will be forced out of Afghanistan someday.

Well the US, at least until now, is pretty happy if they can go out of Afghanistan.
Same was true for Iraq, but once Maliki threw out US troops, suddenly ISIS showed up.

China as emerging power will claim its due.
Until now, China was very careful to divide the globe into two spaces: Its own power hemisphere and the west.
That might change now that the US uses such a rhetoric against them.

Economically, the three heavyweights of the world are US, EU and China.
But with the EU being politically unstable, the mainconflict of china's emerging power will be a conflict between the US and China (exspecially now that the US is losing allies in the West).

The US could have gained a lot of influence via TTIP and TTP and secured their economical dominance and that of all of its allies.
But nooooo, of course not. That would not be the nationalist troll thing to do.

At this rate, China is making much smarter decisions than the US, and the EU is always a big wildcard since it was founded.
We could see Schulz and Macron emerging victorious, two very pro EU politicians of which one has the know how to talk even with the troublesome EU members and possibly unify them.
But we could also see a further decline with Italy leaving in worst case.

 

[Philia]

Well the US, at least until now, is pretty happy if they can go out of Afghanistan.

No, they are not. Current US backed regime is fragile. They neither have the ability to keep Talibans on check nor have the support of Afghan people. US leaves and Talibans take power. And they would be backed by Pakistan and Russia. And Afghanistan is much more important than Iraq. If America wants to influence central Asia, they would want to have their backed govt in power at Afghanistan. This country has border with Pakistan, India, China, Iran and some Soviet states. 35% of world population right there. The only ally US has there is India and the way India is growing they in the future a US-India relation might be dominated by India and they would care about their own interest in that immediate region over USA's

Economically, the three heavyweights of the world are US, EU and China.

I think you're forgetting India here. A country with 1.25bn people and a economy which is predicted by many to surpass economy of US and EU in the future. I'd say present day India is more important than EU to world economy. Trump is doing a good job with relation with India. Israel and India are probably the only two country happy with Trump so far.

The US could have gained a lot of influence via TTIP and TTP and secured their economical dominance and that of all of its allies.
But nooooo, of course not. That would not be the nationalist troll thing to do.

Indeed. At this rate they'll lose influence from ASEAN countries. Malaysia, Vietnam, Singapore all were included in TTP. Breaking it simply nullifies US influence there. ASEAN countries have been doing very well in economic front. Together they have a very big economy where Indonesia is sometimes projected as the fourth biggest economy interns of PPP in the future. Vietnam, Philippines, Myanmar have very well performing economies as well.

We could see Schulz and Macron emerging victorious, two very pro EU politicians of which one has the know how to talk even with the troublesome EU members and possibly unify them.
But we could also see a further decline with Italy leaving in worst case.

You are too hopeful. I don't know who will win in Germany but In France it will be Le Pen

And if Italy and France leave......EU becomes

EU countries should ask Turkey to join EU and hope that someone other than Le Pen wins so EU might exist after 20,years

 

[James Rye]

Even if Le Pen wins I doubt the majority of the french will vote for a Franxit.

 

[shionoro]

No, they are not. Current US backed regime is fragile. They neither have the ability to keep Talibans on check nor have the support of Afghan people. US leaves and Talibans take power. And they would be backed by Pakistan and Russia. And Afghanistan is much more important than Iraq. If America wants to influence central Asia, they would want to have their backed govt in power at Afghanistan. This country has border with Pakistan, India, China, Iran and some Soviet states. 35% of world population right there. The only ally US has there is India and the way India is growing they in the future a US-India relation might be dominated by India and they would care about their own interest in that immediate region over USA's

Those statements are not contradictory.
The US is not really that caring about whether taliban reign afghanistan.
Don't forget: Before the taliban took power, there was a democratic opposition begging the US to fight them. The US didnt.
Afghanistan was blind activism back when 9/11 happened, it was not a geostrategical powerplay.

What influence would Afghanistan give the US in that region? They cannot dronewar in pakistan that well anymore, but on the other hand , why would they even need to by now?
Al qaida is active everywhere now, so is ISIS. The dronewar was effective before the rise of ISIS, but by now some old men in Waziristan are irrelevant.

It is not like the troops the US has there by now are anything significant that would enable them to control more than a patch of desert.
The US wants out, they just don't want to face the claims about how they left all those poor people to die when the Taliban return.
But i don't think the Trump administration cares about that all that much as Obama might have.

I think you're forgetting India here. A country with 1.25bn people and a economy which is predicted by many to surpass economy of US and EU in the future. I'd say present day India is more important than EU to world economy. Trump is doing a good job with relation with India. Israel and India are probably the only two country happy with Trump so far.

India has so many problems that it will not be a global player any time soon.
Let's look at your statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)#Lists

India is less important for the world trade than big european nations are (because let's face it, even countries like italy with a lower GDP export more valuable techonology on a whole, while india exports a lot of products like clothes and stuff).
The most important blocks tradewise are the EU and the US, for reasons of sheer volume and also the products they export (which are mostly high tech that you cannot really buy anywhere else).
China caught up really fast and is fit (after they solved their problems, that is, what is true for india is true for china too: A big part of their trading volume comes from cheap products they can sell to poor asians countries but they do not have significance for the west) to be just as important as the US and the EU.
But no other block even comes close to those three, and i wouldnt bet on India even surpassing the big three european nations anytime soon.
India has MANY MANY MANY problems to solve before they can get into that range.

You are too hopeful. I don't know who will win in Germany but In France it will be Le Pen

And if Italy and France leave......EU becomes

EU countries should ask Turkey to join EU and hope that someone other than Le Pen wins so EU might exist after 20,years

Well we can discuss that in the EU threat, but just briefly: Le Pen is not going to win.
Everything points to a win of Macron, who is very pro EU.
France won't leave the EU in the next term of the french president.

Italy leaving is a long shot, but it is not impossible. That would ACTUALLY be devastating, but once again: As long as France and Germany are in the european nation, it wont break apart.
If countries from the south leave that, paradoxically, could even leave the EU as being more stable than before because the Euro would be more stable than before.
Also, I wanna see britain leaving first.

 

[kkck]

Well, so trump nominated someone for the supreme court. And democrats are left with a choice... Either do to the guy what republicans did to obama's nominee or approve him. Honestly, I think democrats should just approve the guy and move on. And of course, while very emphatically making the point that the supreme court is not a joke and each and every republicans who got involved in blocking obama's nominee is objectively a piece of shit who does not care or even understand US institutions. It's not even about making a point anymore, democrats simply lost this one and they should recognize it. And they don't have that much to win given the circumstances.

 

[xi0]

The message getting out there is way too mixed. Yesterday you had major media outlets acting pleasantly surprised and then trying to spin it and say that Gorsuch's appointment is some sort of veiled assurance to Justice Kennedy so he'll retire and then Trump can appoint the Headless Horseman as well. Now we have Democratic leadership painting this pick as "hostile". I don't really know what to make of it really, as I think at least some of the things he's said are downright ridiculous.

 

[kkck]

The message getting out there is way too mixed. Yesterday you had major media outlets acting pleasantly surprised and then trying to spin it and say that Gorsuch's appointment is some sort of veiled assurance to Justice Kennedy so he'll retire and then Trump can appoint the Headless Horseman as well. Now we have Democratic leadership painting this pick as "hostile". I don't really know what to make of it really, as I think at least some of the things he's said are downright ridiculous.

The most I have gotten from this mix bag of information is that the guy is basically a generic conservative. Perhaps a tad more than his predecesor. However given the circumstances a generic conservative is the best case scenario for liberals. And ultimately, there is no reason to oppose the guy, at least so far I don't see any victory here. They should just take the chance, claim the moral high-ground and call out republicans on their active sabotaging of the government.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/iran-on-notice-trump-michael-flynn-234503

Oh look, threats at iran now. And this is just week two. They are "on notice" because trump is a tough big boy.