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This guy us a good pick if you want a ww3. He might be good at war strategies but nothing suggests that he's good at diplomacy.
Unless it´s intimidating for diplomacy, well at least it´ll calm down the chinese a bit, ever since they started disrespecting Obama they´ve gone bold on the south pacific Sea, too Bold for my liking.
 

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He can, just the fact, there´s a guy who studied Art of War as a military cabinet pick for Trump, gives a image of, you dont wanna piss of America.
No. Really no. You can piss off america all you want as long as you know they cannot attack you.
The art of war does not help you against acts of terror or economical warfare, much less against nukes.
He did, thats why he was manhandled as a joke by the Chinese at the G20 meeting, to think otherwise is to look the other way from the visible signs lol.
Trump was already humiliated by iran who do not care about his sanctions, while Obama managed to handle out a deal with them.
That is the difference. Obama works silently but effective, trump is loud but accomplishes nothing at all.
What you call visible is superficial. Obama did not lose there, much like Merkel did not lose to Putin when she handled out Minsk 2 while US hardliners were calling for nato troops in ukraine.

Well the guy will still be useful, even if traditional war scenarios dont happen, at least he will prevent a lot more of military casualties, if he can make good use of the US military a thing that has been very lackluster for a couple of years.
IN which way would he prevent casualties? He said he enjoys fighting. He does not seem like the kind of guy who has good communication with the locals in a conflict who in turn warn him about traps.

Also, while Obama was president there where warmonger generals wanting to pick a fight with Russia LMAO, compared to their empty threats the Mad Dog can at least get some respect around and it´s all about the impression of the US military that the other countries need to have, they just need to respect the US military and stop playing around, they might keep their missile tests going, but they will behave in the South pacific Sea and in the Middle East, assuming the Mad Dog can deliver if he starts failing then he deserves to be treated as a joke of course, but we dont need any serious wars with the US, just more respect for the time being so we can actually avoid a World war scenario, the chinese would do well to remember that and who knows maybe the guy might deliver good damage on ISIS with better US-Russia relations there.

When was there any talk about fighting russia?
Obama was always very fair towards russia, and he agreed to sanctions against russia, as he should.
That is how you have to react to russia, not by appointing people who go by the name of maddog.
You still cannot explain me why that guy should get respect.

There is nothing that guy can do about the countries who can and want to hurt the US.
That guy wont to a little shit about iran, nor about china, or russia, or any of such countries.

Noone gets respect for being unable to do a shit.
Mr maddog is like a strict teacher from an era where he was still allowed to hit kids.
You know he could make you cry if you disobey if he was in his time, but he is not.
You know he cannot hit you anymore, which is why he is nothing more than a guy who would have been scary in another place or time but is no threat now.
 

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Unless it´s intimidating for diplomacy, well at least it´ll calm down the chinese a bit, ever since they started disrespecting Obama they´ve gone bold on the south pacific Sea, too Bold for my liking.
No. They won't. It won't even calm the N.Koreans down let alone the Chinese. He will understand that in that region(Central/East Asia) China is a bigger power than America. He will not stop China from behaving the way it does in South China sea. Read how is Duerte bashing USA despite Trump/Mattis in top position. And that's Philippines which doesn't even have a decent military. And North Korea has already too many sanctions and threats from USA. Why they would worry about new sanctions/threats? For N.Korea what Gary Johnson said is true. One day their ICBM will work. If USA decides to go through Military action, they will take South Korea and parts of USA(if they can reach) with them. Your post doesn't even make a bit of sense.

Iran after Trump selected Mattis did ballistic missile test. They also started nuclear propulsion. Which only indicates that if Trump breaks the nuclear treaty they would try to get nukes as fast as possible.
 

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No. Really no. You can piss off america all you want as long as you know they cannot attack you.
The art of war does not help you against acts of terror or economical warfare, much less against nukes.


Trump was already humiliated by iran who do not care about his sanctions, while Obama managed to handle out a deal with them.
That is the difference. Obama works silently but effective, trump is loud but accomplishes nothing at all.
What you call visible is superficial. Obama did not lose there, much like Merkel did not lose to Putin when she handled out Minsk 2 while US hardliners were calling for nato troops in ukraine.



IN which way would he prevent casualties? He said he enjoys fighting. He does not seem like the kind of guy who has good communication with the locals in a conflict who in turn warn him about traps.




When was there any talk about fighting russia?
Obama was always very fair towards russia, and he agreed to sanctions against russia, as he should.
That is how you have to react to russia, not by appointing people who go by the name of maddog.
You still cannot explain me why that guy should get respect.

There is nothing that guy can do about the countries who can and want to hurt the US.
That guy wont to a little shit about iran, nor about china, or russia, or any of such countries.

Noone gets respect for being unable to do a shit.
Mr maddog is like a strict teacher from an era where he was still allowed to hit kids.
You know he could make you cry if you disobey if he was in his time, but he is not.
You know he cannot hit you anymore, which is why he is nothing more than a guy who would have been scary in another place or time but is no threat now.
If he enjoys fighting, then it must be when he wins the fights and not when he loses, them since there´s no joy in losing, therefore him enjoying fighting, means he will go in for winning and has good experience on his side, he wont be ok with fighting in any losing battles and will most likely voice his opinion a lot on what the US has been doing in the Middle East, this is good.

No, he should´ve dealed with them to get rid of ISIS, not starting sanctions, if there were deals with Iran then I dont understand why there werent deals with Russia, regarding ISIS, all Obama did was having Putin doing his work, there, when Putin had enough of ISIS and started a serious counterattack and afterwards Obama´s generals went batshit crazy and started doing shit during Ceasefire treaties, with Mad Dog, there will be more US general control, which is clearly very much needed after that Warmonger general wanted to start WW3 with Russia appeared on the internet LMAO.

About Iran, I dont think there´s really a need to do much, unless they go too much out of hand, they are a lot of high bark but no bite, so I doubt he will even take their threat seriously, with Russia he will need to cooperate in the Middle East to get some damage on ISIS and with China he needs to show strength in the South Pacific Sea, I´m looking forward to see how he deals with these two.
 

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If he enjoys fighting, then it must be when he wins the fights and not when he loses, them since there´s no joy in losing, therefore him enjoying fighting, means he will go in for winning and has good experience on his side, he wont be ok with fighting in any losing battles and will most likely voice his opinion a lot on what the US has been doing in the Middle East, this is good.

No, he should´ve dealed with them to get rid of ISIS, not starting sanctions, if there were deals with Iran then I dont understand why there werent deals with Russia, regarding ISIS, all Obama did was having Putin doing his work, there, when Putin had enough of ISIS and started a serious counterattack and afterwards Obama´s generals went batshit crazy and started doing shit during Ceasefire treaties, with Mad Dog, there will be more US general control, which is clearly very much needed after that Warmonger general wanted to start WW3 with Russia appeared on the internet LMAO.

About Iran, I dont think there´s really a need to do much, unless they go too much out of hand, they are a lot of high bark but no bite, so I doubt he will even take their threat seriously, with Russia he will need to cooperate in the Middle East to get some damage on ISIS and with China he needs to show strength in the South Pacific Sea, I´m looking forward to see how he deals with these two.
He does only win meaningless fights.
It is like saying being a karate master is intimidating your coworkers when they compete with you for a raise because you can beat them up.
You cannot beat them up if you want the raise, no matter how much they screw with you.

And no, Russia annexed ukraine. The SHOULD be sanctioned.
The US worked with the kurdish to beat isis, as they should. And it was effective.

WAs would maddog have done about Russia annexing ukraine?
What would he have done against islamic terror (which is not only in syria but infesting north africa too, they cannot be beaten by military alone).

Putin does not fight ISIS; the US does. Putin did not do jackshit to isis. If anything, he made it stronger by backing assad against the other rebel groups who ACTUALLY fought isis
 

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I think if USA invades somewhere the it will be Yemen to please the Saudis.
 

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BUt don't get me wrong here.

Of all the horrible people trump appointed, Mattis seems like a decent man i can respect.
I do not think he is a warmongerer @Philia , but i think he was not the right choice either, much less is he in any shape or form intimidating any enemey of the US
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Also, the biggest eneemy of the US is your commander in chief, if i am perfectly honest.
 

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Im all for this - the man is doing what the man said he would do -
Bring back the jobs @Trump - chase out the mexicans, build that wall my white brotha!
 

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I think if USA invades somewhere the it will be Yemen to please the Saudis.
Trump doesnt please saudis:XD.
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He does only win meaningless fights.
It is like saying being a karate master is intimidating your coworkers when they compete with you for a raise because you can beat them up.
You cannot beat them up if you want the raise, no matter how much they screw with you.

And no, Russia annexed ukraine. The SHOULD be sanctioned.
The US worked with the kurdish to beat isis, as they should. And it was effective.

WAs would maddog have done about Russia annexing ukraine?
What would he have done against islamic terror
(which is not only in syria but infesting north africa too, they cannot be beaten by military alone).

Putin does not fight ISIS; the US does. Putin did not do jackshit to isis. If anything, he made it stronger by backing assad against the other rebel groups who ACTUALLY fought isis
Go to Syria and Muslim countries and see for yourself if it was effective or not, a guy returned for the US from the middle East, because they dont like free speech and cultural diversity.

good question, I wonder if he will be asked on that pretty soon, I have no idea of what he would´ve done though.
 

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Trump doesnt please saudis:XD.
Yes he does, why else did he try to interfere in yemen war and not include them on his terror list?
Go to Syria and Muslim countries and see for yourself if it was effective or not, a guy returned for the US from the middle East, because they dont like free speech and cultural diversity.

good question, I wonder if he will be asked on that pretty soon, I have no idea of what he would´ve done though.
Why would i need to go there to know that in fact, almost whole Iraq is freed from Isis now and only the kurdish gained real ground on isis in syria (the kurdish being backed up by the US)?
That is just a fact.

The one power fighting ISIS was US+kurdish fighter and to a lesser extent other rebel groups in syria.

There is absolutely no ground to work together with russia on such conflicts as long as they create tensions with US allies and annex countries in europe.

And as long as they do that, the sanctions have to be intact.
That is one of the conflicts you cannot solve with military.
You can and should have nato units in eastern europe so the fate of ukraine will not be repeated in the baltic states, but that's about it.
 

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just give me president warren 2020 please
 

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he lost the popular vote and is getting less popular by the hour.
Popular vote and popularity means nothing. And the Democratic Party is in a terrible state. I think they'll line up a terrible candidate next time too.
 

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Popular vote and popularity means nothing. And the Democratic Party is in a terrible state. I think they'll line up a terrible candidate next time too.
Warren is not a terrible candidate, and trump is.
 

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Republicans, from their president and politicians to voters, are horrible PoS. They're giving power to shitty, incompetent people, churning out bullshit and fake news and stats, lying openly, and doing whatever as long as it means more money for them, regardless of how negatively it affects the citizens. What's worse is that the Trump supporters are such brainwashed shills, believing anything that agrees with them instead of the truth.

Sessions, DeVos, Bannon, and more. Fuck.
 

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Warren is not a terrible candidate, and trump is.
And Democrats won't line up Warren to run. They'll find someone useless.
 

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And Democrats won't line up Warren to run. They'll find someone useless.
Why do you think that?
Most of the latest picks of the democrats were not bad candidates with obama being downright amazing.

Even this time it came down to sanders or clinton, and say about clinton what you want, but she was pretty popular before the election and all the mudfighting.
It is not like democrats have a history of putting up terrible candidates.
It is just that americans are sometimes lunatic enough to pick someone like Bush over Kerry.

Right now democrats are in a state of weakness, and they are thankful for people like sanders or warren who save their dignity. Those are the voices that are heard right now, and those are the voices who can position themselves as popular politicians for the whole anti trump movement until the next election.
I see a future for warren.
Which other democrat right now even matters to the remaining liberals?
I see myself as politically interested, but honestly, i couldnt name you one relevant democrat that could run in the next presidential election besides warren.
Democratic candidates are elected by vote, so going by that logic, who else is going to get votes?
Someone nameless AND boring? I dont think so.
 

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Popular vote and popularity means nothing. And the Democratic Party is in a terrible state. I think they'll line up a terrible candidate next time too.
While you're not wrong about Popular Vote, it does give us an idea that there are more people who would prefer Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. In a way, there is hope, assuming Hillary isn't the candidate that is.
 
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