What? It's always Trump and the Republicans trying to blame everything on Democrats.
Is that supposed to be a witty comeback? Maybe It would be a lot better if cops weren't killing innocents?Trump has consistently been pro military and pro police.
While democrats and antifa looked like this:
You try to comment.
But its apparent you don't know much, if anything, about the current state of affairs in the USA.
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What was the action taken though? He gassed citizens to film a campaign ad...
Minneapolis only begun the process, it will be interesting to see how a major city rebuilds their police force. With trust in it at a probably irreparable low, it is really the only thing they can do to salvage it.
His response was to give the short speech, clear the area, and to make his presence known at the attack building. If you want to question the ethics of that, then go for it. I think his actions there are more than a little questionable.
Well, I mean, that was my point. You brought up nuance, but I'm not sure what we're talking about now.
I wonder how Trump will take credit if/when this works, and the Black community does much better because they're getting funds that would have been wasted in the police department. I think LA already defunded $150 million, which isn't much, but it's a good start.
That looks like a stock photo or photoshopped photo from a far-right website. Even if they did, antifas are not happy with how cops kill Black people and abuse people for no reason, but cops don't give a shit, they'll keep doing that for some reason. Trump is also not pro-military, even if he is pro-police.Trump has consistently been pro military and pro police.
While democrats and antifa looked like this:
You try to comment.
But its apparent you don't know much, if anything, about the current state of affairs in the USA.
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That's a very interesting list..... Most of them, i can see, the only doubt i have is Paul Ryan. He is in many ways the antithesis of Trump, but also is not vocally against him.... He may help going against Trump but i doubt he'll make a public announcement about it like the others have...
While it may hard to sympathesize with the police, isn't it important to consider how hard of a job this is? They have their lives on the line everytime they are out, and are trained to take actions before resolution... Also, its true most of the cops are great people and there are a few "bad apples" but its the kind of job you cannot afford screwups. I think reform is the only legitimate thing that can be implemented here. The good thing that's happening is a lot of cops have started to break the "we are united, we have your back" wall and coming out condemning the actions of the cops and also showing support to the revolt. That's the first step of the reform, acknowledging the problem. Hopefully things go better....
I also brought it up because by using the wrong wording gives people the wrong/confusing impressions (can already see campaign videos saying Candidate X wants to get rid of all police, imagine looting on the streets and murder in the sheets with crime rampant everywhere-> just watch it happen)
Police wouldnt be in this situation if they'd done that in the beginning, but it seemed police culture is, *dont call out your coworkers, or you will get punished/retaliated against*, probably need protections for that.
I dont think defunding will help, and i dont think it will ever happen, no matter who is in the government.
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Yea, i think the higher ups should encourage cops and even protect them when they speak out against their own. Once that happens, things will be in the right direction.
It works both ways. Repbulican logic: Oh the economy is booming: Trump and Jesus are great. Something goes wrong: Fucking Marx and those communists ruining everything.
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Yeah that would be super funny and wouldn't have severe global ramifications at all....
Yea, but i am not talking about this as a partisan issue, nor am i saying Trump is at fault... clearly his reactions to the issue are at the absolute worst...
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Like Venezuela, Libya? You need the police in every society...
It's happening, some departments' fundings reduced, like in LA. Defunding might not help too much, but the money will at least be of more use elsewhere, like supporting schools.
The past week or two has shown that civil disobedience is probably more effective at getting shit done than voting has, at least when it comes to this specific issue. Most police departments aren't run by elected officials, unless it's a sheriff's department.