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But.... what difference does any of that make? Why should china or russia be measuring sticks in regards to this? Are you seriously suggesting framing US right wing perspectives around how fucking russia and china treat LGBT people? I don't even agree with substantial portions of the LGBT agenda but what does it say about right wingers if they want/need their views framed around those of monsters? That you even bring up authoritarian and oppressive regimes for this speaks volumes.

Wait. Are you saying modern and current day china which is oppressive towards minorities and LGBTs.

Is an "authoritarian" and "oppressive" regime which could be categorized as a "monster"?

Is that what you just said?

If I'm remembering right, your side is supposed to praise china while viewing Donald Trump as the "authoritarian" and "oppressive" regime that is a "monster".


1. How does racism come into play when it comes to sexual orientation?

2. The media is correct. There is bigotry against homosexuals and transgender people in USA and from the right. Your post does not prove anything wrong or argue against that.

3. Evidence and history do support those conclusions. Your logic however makes no sense. Saying "what-about" doesn't absolve USA of its homophobia and transphobia, especially when black transgender women are the most vulnerable and keep being killed.

4. I like how you bring up religion though, proving that religion is part of the problem. I think Russia under Putin is just as anti-LGBT+, if not worse than Russia under Stalin.

Would you personally be treated better as a LGBT at a Trump rally.

Than you would be treated wearing a Trump MAGA hat at a Biden or black lives matter rally.

What are your thoughts on this?

In terms of which side is more tolerant, respectful and fair.
 

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Would you personally be treated better as a LGBT at a Trump rally.

Than you would be treated wearing a Trump MAGA hat at a Biden or black lives matter rally.
I dont get the comparison as people arent usually waving a flag that says, Hey *Look at me Im Gay* versus a "Make American Great Again" hate. Blacks for Trump exist even on his campaign staff (https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/youaintblack-tee-1) and he always puts them up front behind him at rallys, so I dont necessarily think at a BLM event they would actually be ostracized or treated badly.

I imagine Gay Wealthy Republicans are Trump fans. *people get off to Capital Gains Tax breaks and Payroll Tax Breaks*
 

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Wait. Are you saying modern and current day china which is oppressive towards minorities and LGBTs.

Is an "authoritarian" and "oppressive" regime which could be categorized as a "monster"?

Is that what you just said?

If I'm remembering right, your side is supposed to praise china while viewing Donald Trump as the "authoritarian" and "oppressive" regime that is a "monster".
Gonna be honest, I don't know how to respond to this. I mean, do you even realize that what you said here has nothing to do with what I wrote? You just jumped into this.... media thing which you keep bringing up and jumping but has nothing to do with anything, let alone my post. I mean.... "my side"? Seriously?
 

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I dont get the comparison as people arent usually waving a flag that says, Hey *Look at me Im Gay* versus a "Make American Great Again" hate. Blacks for Trump exist even on his campaign staff (https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/youaintblack-tee-1) and he always puts them up front behind him at rallys, so I dont necessarily think at a BLM event they would actually be ostracized or treated badly.

I imagine Gay Wealthy Republicans are Trump fans. *people get off to Capital Gains Tax breaks and Payroll Tax Breaks*

Milo Yiannopoulus waved plenty of *LOOK AT ME IM GAY* flags and was a big part of why Trump won the 2016 election. Welcomed with open arms. Blair White and countless other LGBTs the same.

How was this kid treated by democrats, CNN and the left:




They told lies about him. Tried to ruin his life. For no reason aside from him wearing a hat in support of Trump.

Is that the paragon of "tolerance"?


Gonna be honest, I don't know how to respond to this. I mean, do you even realize that what you said here has nothing to do with what I wrote? You just jumped into this.... media thing which you keep bringing up and jumping but has nothing to do with anything, let alone my post. I mean.... "my side"? Seriously?

"Tolerant" leftists might hate you and hope you die simply for acknowledging evil acts committed by china.

Perhaps you're aware of this, which is the reason why you've opted to dodge the question entirely.

That's the point.

...

CNN and media push a narrative where the right wing is "intolerant" and the left is "tolerant".

But if people thought about it, they might realize none of that is true.
 

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How was this kid treated by democrats, CNN and the left:
surely Milo wasnt treated badly for being gay.

Those kids werent treated bad either, the native americans didnt harm them and kick them out.
 

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"Tolerant" leftists might hate you and hope you die simply for acknowledging evil acts committed by china.

Perhaps you're aware of this, which is the reason why you've opted to dodge the question entirely.

That's the point.
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CNN and media push a narrative where the right wing is "intolerant" and the left is "tolerant".

But if people thought about it, they might realize none of that is true.
Dodged your questions? You expected an answer? I thought those were rhetorical... Oh, well, if only to get it over with:


Wait. Are you saying modern and current day china which is oppressive towards minorities and LGBTs.
Do I have to? Of course they are an oppressive regime.
Is an "authoritarian" and "oppressive" regime which could be categorized as a "monster"?
Yes.
Is that what you just said?
I suppose?
If I'm remembering right, your side is supposed to praise china while viewing Donald Trump as the "authoritarian" and "oppressive" regime that is a "monster".
I've have not praised china.

And now that I answered your questions... what changed? Literally nothing.
 

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surely Milo wasnt treated badly for being gay.

Those kids werent treated bad either, the native americans didnt harm them and kick them out.

In the future, anytime the covington applies for a job. Search engine results will return inaccurate news published about him being an alleged racist.

The covington kid and his parents filed a lawsuit to sue CNN and other media for $275 million dollars.

CNN settled out of court but the exact sum of $$ they paid the covington kid for publishing inaccurate accusations against him are unclear.

Dodged your questions? You expected an answer? I thought those were rhetorical... Oh, well, if only to get it over with:

Do I have to? Of course they are an oppressive regime.

Yes.

I suppose?

I've have not praised china.

And now that I answered your questions... what changed? Literally nothing.

In the future, should you order chinese food. They will ALWAYS get your order wrong. All because of a post on mangahelpers.

Never underestimate the power of chinese facial recognition.
 

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In the future, should you order chinese food. They will ALWAYS get your order wrong. All because of a post on mangahelpers.

Never underestimate the power of chinese facial recognition.
Yeah, I probably should avoid china in general. That said, you didn't address any of the stuff I brought up earlier.
 

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Would you personally be treated better as a LGBT at a Trump rally.

Than you would be treated wearing a Trump MAGA hat at a Biden or black lives matter rally.

What are your thoughts on this?

In terms of which side is more tolerant, respectful and fair.
Likely not if I pretend to be an LGBT+ Trump supporter. If I don't support Trump, I'm likely to get beaten up for being an LGBT person of color even if I just boo Trump and walk away. If you support Trump, you'll be treated well enough. If you don't support Trump, there's a good chance you'll be attacked.

Wearing a Trump MAGA hat is a symbol of hate, like the Confederate flag. BLM protesters are likely to attack me if I wore the hat because it shows that I'm okay with racism or am a racist, as Trump peddles racist rhetoric, and majority of his supporters are racists. Anyone with common sense would not wear such a hat at a BLM rally given that Trump is a major problem. At a Biden rally, I'm sure I wouldn't be in much danger as liberals love to preach tolerance even towards racists.

Obviously and clearly liberals are. And then the left are probably second most tolerant, while the right are in last place. I've observed this even as a centrist.

Is that the paragon of "tolerance"?
So much irony and double standards from the right.

Milo Yiannopoulus waved plenty of *LOOK AT ME IM GAY* flags and was a big part of why Trump won the 2016 election. Welcomed with open arms. Blair White and countless other LGBTs the same.
Milo Yiannopolous likely used his homosexuality to make Republicans look good, but he is a transphobic piece of shit, and a horrible person, which is why his fall from grace was swift. Milo all in all would have been okay with Republicans legalizing stoning LGBT+ people, especially if they said he was exempt.

However, that doesn't matter. What matters is now, and Republicans passed a bill that allows medical workers to discriminate against LGBT+ patients. How is that tolerant?
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Wearing a Trump MAGA hat is a symbol of hate, like the Confederate flag
please dont wear a MAGA hat. I feel lke everytime I see people wearing them, there is just this sudden aura of caution from everyone who isn't wearing the hat when I'm around.

Occasionally saw people on airplanes with them, and sat by folks with them at the Indy 500....

I always have struggles when its sometimes the cutest guys wearing them...
 

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What? I'm still against Trump and his racism like I was when we argued long time ago.
 

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Mr. President, your miracle drug has found itself in quite the SNAFU
 

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The whole chloroquine stuff was asinine from the get go... The mere fact that trump couldn't even point to a single study that said it actually worked should have raised all the red flags...
 

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Caitlyn Jenner? As if she knows anything about politics lmao.

That's what his presidency is all about lol.
not to forget, she got away from the manslaughter case right around the becoming caitlyn time, and didn't support gay marriage when she mentioned it on Ellen.
I never got why she should be celebrated for her trans journey. Its good that she did, but celebrate it? ignore the other crimes? Wouldn't have happened if she remained bruce or caitlyn from the start...

LGBT topic food for thought.

-Argentina passed gay marriage despite its population demographic being upwards of 80% roman catholic.

-Stalinist russia sentenced homosexuals to 5 years hard labor in prison. Socialist china today is known to discriminate against LGBTs.

The media has a tendency to illustrate america and the right wing as being "racist" and "bigoted" against homosexual/transexuals.

Evidence and history don't necessarily support those conclusions.
If you want to compare, compare with America itself. America was making progress, now its taking a backward step. None of the examples you listed shows a backward step, its just a distraction.
 

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not to forget, she got away from the manslaughter case right around the becoming caitlyn time, and didn't support gay marriage when she mentioned it on Ellen.
I never got why she should be celebrated for her trans journey. Its good that she did, but celebrate it? ignore the other crimes? Wouldn't have happened if she remained bruce or caitlyn from the start...



If you want to compare, compare with America itself. America was making progress, now its taking a backward step. None of the examples you listed shows a backward step, its just a distraction.

STUNNING AND BRAVE

Killing people with your car somehow doesn't really matter to people or at least gets easily forgotten.
 

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i missed this, but lol, isnt Mr Graham supporting Trump hard these days. Wish Mr. Graham would address this.
 

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and that's sad isn't it? Plus, i would argue the award is undeserved irrespective compared to others who could've been nominated. Its good to support LGBTQ rights but to celebrate it over the real winners who really have gone through hardship is so unfair. We must never have celebrated her.
 

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the phrase "cunning like a fox" should be rephrased to "hypocrite like fox"..
 

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and that's sad isn't it? Plus, i would argue the award is undeserved irrespective compared to others who could've been nominated. Its good to support LGBTQ rights but to celebrate it over the real winners who really have gone through hardship is so unfair. We must never have celebrated her.
Oh absolutely. It would cheapen the "award" in my mind since it is just another marketing tool for the Kardashian empire and not a celebration of awesome human beings. Maybe it's just my cynicism but this whole "celebration" of LGBT often turns out to be empty or hypocritical. Maybe I just worked for too long in Marketing to see anything else but lies and manipulation. There might be some genuine goodwill there but business decisions rely on profitability after all.
 
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