American Politics

[Sanity Check]

Pay more for food... or... starve?

Not sure what you expect people to say

Those in rural areas can begin growing their own food.



Those in cities can support local farmers.

Grafted fruit trees can produce fruit in as small an area as a 5 gallon bucket.

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I guess the plan for most will be to reduce the number of daily meals. Rather than 3 meals a day. Eating habits would reduce to 2 meals or 1 meal.

One popular approach is to stockpile affordable and long term wheat which can be ground up and used to make spaghetti, bread, tortillas, pizza dough, pastries, etc.

In the past I tried to store rice long term, only to find bugs began to emerge from the stored rice after about 6 months or so.

Having egg laying chickens is yet another popular solution.

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edit - forgot to mention.

UV lights to grow plants indoors are affordable and accessible via amazon.

I got two different grow lights from amzn and both work well.

Even those who lack outdoor space might be able to grow a few things indoors for om nom nom purposes.





Although with rising energy costs, perhaps that is becoming less of an option.

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I live in an area where many own chickens, goats and whatever else for food purposes. Everything is relatively affordable and available. There is decent fishing as well.

If food prices rise to catastrophic levels, I would like to think I'll have an easier time adapting than most.

If the catastrophe can hold off for a few years, I think I would definitely be close to self sufficiency by then. By then I would definitely have more than 100 tomato plants and many other things producing year long.

 

[DeadCosmos]

People can nominate whoever they want, but they should be qualified first and foremost, no?

Yep , ofcourse!

 

[shionoro]

Yep , ofcourse!

But that is not a contradiction if there is no food shortage problem 2 years ago but there is now.

 

[DeadCosmos]

But that is not a contradiction if there is no food shortage problem 2 years ago but there is now.

Yep, but there was a food shortage problem, Brandon instead wanted to "frame" Donald Trump as the cause of the food shortage. Similarly to this

 

[xi0]

Those in rural areas can begin growing their own food.



Those in cities can support local farmers.

Grafted fruit trees can produce fruit in as small an area as a 5 gallon bucket.

I have no problem with the premise. I think permaculture is a wise thing. It's just not practical currently and existing population can't be supported by local farmers alone.

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Yep , ofcourse!

So is the nominee qualified or not?

 

[shionoro]

Yep, but there was a food shortage problem, Brandon instead wanted to "frame" Donald Trump as the cause of the food shortage. Similarly to this

Who is brandon? And can you source the food shortage, you posted s th about covid?

 

[xi0]

Just in case anyone is still using "cancel culture" unironically

 

[kkck]

Uff, so this is a thing:

"The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished," Sergei Rudskoi, head of the Russian General Staff's Main Operational Directorate, said in a speech.

Do we need any more confirmation that the war is an unmitigated disaster for russia? And that most reports about how bad the russian military is were actually accurate? And that this lunatics actually thought they could take ukraine in a few days? ffs...

 

[shionoro]

Uff, so this is a thing:


Do we need any more confirmation that the war is an unmitigated disaster for russia? And that most reports about how bad the russian military is were actually accurate? And that this lunatics actually thought they could take ukraine in a few days? ffs...

It is a cautionary tale about autocracies. To many, they seem tempting, having a strongman who takes decisions top down.
But they lack a culture of admitting and solving problems.

Germany's army is a mess, but at least they know it because generals go public (so do politicians) and talk about it. So the political leadership would not be tempted to send them into missions they cannot achieve. The same is true about the Chinese building up cities in months. That is true, but it is also true that a lot of these cities become ruins a year later because nobody wants to live there.
It is also true that the chinese were able to combat corona via isolation, but that led them to become arrogant, push their own (ineffective) vaccine and now with omicron they suddenly face huge problems, because quarantine does not work against that.

A democracy, the more democratic it is (there are huge differences), tends to be less likely to overestimate itself and, while slower than an autocracy when it comes to taking decisions, it also tends to see and admit problems early on.

The west overestimated Russia, so did Ukraine, that led them to be cautious, Ukraine with building up military and preparing, the West in logically thinking through what kind of effort it can commit and sustain.
Russia overestimated itself. It thought the Ukrainian army was a paper towel and that the west would let it slide eventually. Russia did not see the risk of things not going best case. The West was prepared (possibly even too prepared, they were ready to give Ukraine up and play the long game early on) for the worst case from the start.

 

[DeadCosmos]

So is the nominee qualified or not?

I don't know, but I think she is, I heard she had a lot of experience.

Who is brandon? And can you source the food shortage, you posted s th about covid?

Brandon=Joe Biden, we call him that for multiple reasons. It's funny, and it shows how people get manipulated. It all started with a NASCAR GIRL interviewing a guy named Brandon while the crowd was chanting "fuck joe biden". The reported tried to cover it up and brainwash others by saying that the crowd was instead chanting "lets go brandon" ... THEY WERENT! NO!... IM not posting sources , im lazy and that food shortage is almost 2 months after pandemic was declared... I remember not being able to get toilet paper or SPAM, no offense, but im assuming everyone knows about the pandemic and its effects.

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Putin already cancelled, so many sanction, still can not take Ukraine. He is failure like Trudeau, Zelensky, Brandon, it's as if every world leader is embarrassing failure.

 

[kkck]

I don't know, but I think she is, I heard she had a lot of experience.


Brandon=Joe Biden, we call him that for multiple reasons. It's funny, and it shows how people get manipulated. It all started with a NASCAR GIRL interviewing a guy named Brandon while the crowd was chanting "fuck joe biden". The reported tried to cover it up and brainwash others by saying that the crowd was instead chanting "lets go brandon" ... THEY WERENT! NO!... IM not posting sources , im lazy and that food shortage is almost 2 months after pandemic was declared... I remember not being able to get toilet paper or SPAM, no offense, but im assuming everyone knows about the pandemic and its effects.

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Putin already cancelled, so many sanction, still can not take Ukraine. He is failure like Trudeau, Zelensky, Brandon, it's as if every world leader is embarrassing failure.

The report tried to brainwash people? Come on, that's not a thing lol.

 

[shionoro]

I don't know, but I think she is, I heard she had a lot of experience.


Brandon=Joe Biden, we call him that for multiple reasons. It's funny, and it shows how people get manipulated. It all started with a NASCAR GIRL interviewing a guy named Brandon while the crowd was chanting "fuck joe biden". The reported tried to cover it up and brainwash others by saying that the crowd was instead chanting "lets go brandon" ... THEY WERENT! NO!... IM not posting sources , im lazy and that food shortage is almost 2 months after pandemic was declared... I remember not being able to get toilet paper or SPAM, no offense, but im assuming everyone knows about the pandemic and its effects.

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Putin already cancelled, so many sanction, still can not take Ukraine. He is failure like Trudeau, Zelensky, Brandon, it's as if every world leader is embarrassing failure.

You really should source it because i doubt it happened. Toilet paper is not food, somewhat empty supermarkets because people hoard stuff is not a food shortage. THe wheat shortage is serious, many people will die, millions face serious hunger and malnutrition Who died the time of that other "food shortage"?

It is true that covid lead to problems in the supply chain, but nothing even close in seriousness to what we are facing now.

 

[kkck]

You really should source it because i doubt it happened. Toilet paper is not food, somewhat empty supermarkets because people hoard stuff is not a food shortage. THe wheat shortage is serious, many people will die, millions face serious hunger and malnutrition Who died the time of that other "food shortage"?

It is true that covid lead to problems in the supply chain, but nothing even close in seriousness to what we are facing now.

The US has actually had food shortages, though this varies by states. one of the reasons at least for meat for instance is cyberattacks on the largest meat packing companies which disrupted distribution. IIRC there was also an instance of some pathogen breaking lose and them having to close a few plants... I suggest googling this, it's been going on for a while. That said, US shortages haven't really amounted to anyone being hungry. More like, some states having supermarkets with shelves that aren't full.

As for what's coming... it's honestly difficult to grasp the magnitude of the problem. Shortages and high prices from before the war were driven by absurdly high demand from the pandemic recovery along with the container shortage. And this issue has not improved at all. So you have this absurdly high demand for everything while at the same time a very real and dangerous shortage of stuff resulting from the war. Anyone on a budget should be very concerned.... And probably people without budgets too because a limitless budget doesn't help if shelves are actually empty rather than merely not full.

 

[shionoro]

The US has actually had food shortages, though this varies by states. one of the reasons at least for meat for instance is cyberattacks on the largest meat packing companies which disrupted distribution. IIRC there was also an instance of some pathogen breaking lose and them having to close a few plants... I suggest googling this, it's been going on for a while. That said, US shortages haven't really amounted to anyone being hungry. More like, some states having supermarkets with shelves that aren't full.

As for what's coming... it's honestly difficult to grasp the magnitude of the problem. Shortages and high prices from before the war were driven by absurdly high demand from the pandemic recovery along with the container shortage. And this issue has not improved at all. So you have this absurdly high demand for everything while at the same time a very real and dangerous shortage of stuff resulting from the war. Anyone on a budget should be very concerned.... And probably people without budgets too because a limitless budget doesn't help if shelves are actually empty rather than merely not full.

Yeah I do agree there were empty supermarket shelves. But as far as I know, Biden's current comments were not about that, but about millions facing hunger and thus the US agreeing to export more wheat to combat that. It is not about US citizens starving.
That is a VERY different thing from empty shelves. Biden wants to do a good thing: Sending food abroad to countries that have a lot of (soon to be) hungry people inside them. Bashing him for that, using the very different situation with empty shelves before as comparison, just feels wrong and unfair.

 

[ninjabot]

I guess the plan for most will be to reduce the number of daily meals. Rather than 3 meals a day. Eating habits would reduce to 2 meals or 1 meal.

Why? Why wouldn't they just eat smaller portions for each meal and still eat a total of 3 meals?

 

[shionoro]

they should eat the rich

 

[DeadCosmos]

share us your food Brandon!

 

[M3J]

Yep, but there was a food shortage problem, Brandon instead wanted to "frame" Donald Trump as the cause of the food shortage. Similarly to this

You mean, like how Trump blamed Obama, Clinton, and the Dems for his and/or the Republicans' fuckups? Openly lying about it?

 

[shionoro]

food

Why do you openly reject reality?

 

[Sanity Check]

American Food Shortages

Right wing conservatives are known for hunting, fishing, farming and living off the land. The right wing republican demographic is best suited to surviving food shortages in the USA.

Democrats however trend towards the inverse opposite. They do not hunt, fish or grow food. They will inevitably be hit the hardest by food shortages and other crisis.

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What if the only thing Joe Biden's food shortages accomplish, is starving the democrat demographic in the country.

While the right wing conservative demographic thrives?

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