How am I doing that? I'm not saying only police are racist or discriminate.
This is why BLM is a terrible branding. They should have focus on Anti Police Brutality. Heck, one of the things that impact my life the most was October of 2010, a string of gay teens commit suicide one after another. That let to the foundation of Spirit day and It got Better Project. But even then I thought anti gay bullying may not been effective. Anti Bullying branding would been effective. If you deal with anti bullying, then you automatically have to deal with anti gay bullying. You need to build broad coalition. But the people who push for BLM also push for some sort of wealth distribution to black community. Which is FINE on its own. But when you muddle up the message, less people come aboard.
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I said a different brand will take care of it, then you said are they run by former polices. So your talking point is polices policing polices. We ALL KNOW IT DOESN"T WORK. You don't need to repeat it to me. Have some imagination. That why I mentioned CIA/FBI/DOJ. Heck even Attorney General may not even have cop training, you think Kamala Harris was a cop before she got that job? She was a lawyer. And that position is an elected position. If you don't like their views, then don't elect them. Elect someone who said they want to reform. Kamala Harris for example pushed body cam hardcore, create a database of police wrong doings. You are so blind by your dogma that you didn't see all the incremental changes of real people actually put in the hard work. You can chant defunding the police all you want. But how are you gonna get that pass? Hold a gun to the voters? That slogan already politically toxic.
All I am saying each countries don't face the same threat with global warming. Where I from before the USA. Most of that land will be under water. While Russia will get more benefits than negatives. Same with everything, from environmental issue to police reform. It affects people very differently.
Blinded by what dogma?
Maybe, you don't understand what I said. Local elections matter far more than statewide and definitely more than federal election. Take police funding issue. You can defund certain police in certain district. If you focus on the local budgeting level. This whole chanting from a federal level will get NOTHING DONE.Blinded by what dogma?
Idk, I don't want to seem dismissive because I don't think you lack a grasp on the topic, but "vote vote vote" is every bit as naive as "defund the police" when it comes to actually reforming the system so it's as equitable as possible. But I guess I'm being a doomer about it, so I digress.
No, that's dumb.
It's mostly racists and idiots who did that, it was mainly another way to say, "we don't care about Black people" or "we're okay with letting Black people be killed by cops!" but they didn't want to get in trouble for saying that outright. People who were aware of social issues had no problem with BLM.
That's... what they did... by saying Black lives matter too, and police should not be using violence/excessive brutality against Black people. Anti-bullying branding is not effective if you want to oppose bullying LGBT+ kids because it's not specific enough. It doesn't say, "guys, stop bullying gay kids!" The message wasn't muddled at all.
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Local elections are more often controlled by conservatives who redistrict and close polling places as needed to maintain a stranglehold on municipal and state governments. Do you think they're interested in these kinds of reforms?
Nope, all i noticed following George Floyd is people on the media yelling back and forth whether All Lives Matter or Black Lives matter. Once the debate derail to that BLM lost. If they went with Anti Police Brutality, what do you think the opposition would say? Pro Police Brutality?
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Depend on when you ask, post George Floyd. Yeah. Now, is no. The window for change is closed. Once the whole ACAB thing got started, and both sides got cemented down. No changes can take place. Immediately post George Floyd, even Fox News are attacking those police officers. And also framing. If you framing like body camera as a thing that protect the cops against wrongful charges for example. And although that is true, but it is more impactful in term of getting bad cops accountable. USA politics is just too complicated. And this country as the day go by, even I am question what is the right thing and what is the right solution. The people are so divided at this point base on comments I am reading, to come together as a country.
No, they'd say it's not police brutality or would try to defend it in whatever way. BLM was talking about police brutality, which was being ignored. We live in a world that's still racist, people wouldn't have listened either way.
The issue with this assessment is implying that things like ACAB and "Defund the Police" prevented reform. They were just used as excuses and without those things others would take their place. To suggest otherwise is too close to victim-blaming for my tastes.
It was always puzzingly to me that there are Bush-Obama-Sanders-Trump voters. But there are. People are easily swayed at time. Like Joe Rogan, he agree with every single radical different view points with each of his guest. He got Sanders on, and he agree with the left wing. And then he got a right wing on, and he agree with the right wing. Or whoever, he last talk to.
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Sure, I guess that your conclusion. You should give up. The world is racist. You can never achieve your objective.
sure but you can look up what the people up for election mean with it. No need for twitter
The point is this. The slogan is on the provocative side of things. Which can be good and catchy and inspire convo. I as a person who followed politics, listened for variety of people on the topic who differed from each others. But a lay person hearing that. How much time to you think an average voter will look up these things. First impression also everything, if it doesn't sound right to them before the deep dive. It already slightly lost the battle. And even among the people who buy it, their understanding is different from each others.
No disagreement from me here, i think the communication of "defund the police" backfired a lot. But I think the thought behind it is sound if communicated right.
Okay so let talk about the meat of it which is the policy. The whole mental health profession dealing with people with mental health problem sound rational. And I were buying it at first. But here is something to consider.
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Like I said before, it's an excuse to take focus and outrage off of people being killed. You can blame whoever you want, someone being angry and screaming ACAB is not the same as those in power looking for any excuse to protect their position and further squash the downtrodden. A pearl-clutching, Blue Lives Matter type would rather cry over what a random person says on twitter and use that as an excuse to distract from real criticism, so their reactions would never be a barometer for me for what is acceptable or not. Inflammatory language or rhetoric is not even in the same universe as what the police get away with on a daily basis.
So we had a trade war with China that was no benefit to us. Do I blamed President Xi of China for out playing us and for the Chinese team? Or do I blamed Trump for being a buffon? I blamed Trump. Does this answer your question. Tucker Carlson is not on my team. For a while, Bernie bros like to cited Tucker's new anti-corporation populist talking points. And David Parkman correctly point out that agreeing with the problems is meaningless unless we agree with the solutions. I was closer to BLM in term of police reforms but as time passed, I also realize I am not on BLM team either. So to applied my logic evenly. I guess I gonna stop blaming BLM too.
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