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I'm just saying, it's horseshit what USA and the west are doing
 

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A palette cleanser. A debate nearly a decade in the making.

I'm still done here until the US election stuff becomes the primary talking point here but I couldn't NOT signal boost this debate.
 

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I don't really get why Shapiro would agree to ever doing something like this but maybe Destiny will disappoint me yet again
 

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Isn't Destiny a dipshit though? I remember something about him and/or his wife few days ago, but I don't remember what.
 

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^Destiny is the best political debater on the left. Bar none, end of discussion ...unfortunately.

He's an abrasive edge lord asshole, but he's the best there is at what he does. And watching him work is incredibly cathartic to anyone who's not too far left.

As for why Shapiro would do this? Lex Fridman is well respected and beloved in the podcast domain. He put in a word for Stephen after he and his wife appeared on his show. A combination of doing a solid for a friend and trying to make the Daily Wire look good by taking out the guy who's been called "The Ben Shapiro of the left" for a decade. You can tell he came to play, because he was far more aggressive in the beginning than he was with Ana Kasparian. Ben wants to defend his title.
 

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I highly doubt he's that good of a debater, especially if Ben Shapiro was willing to come on. If Destiny is the Ben Shapiro of the left, then that means he debates college kids and high school kids to try to own them since they wouldn't have as much knowledge.
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The legal system in general probably needs tort reform of some kind but Trump was found liable for sexual abuse, battery, and defamation both times she sued him, so idk
But...is this kosher? I remember at the time of the original trial thinking that this was just his word against hers and people to whom she told her version and there was no way this holds up in an appeal (evidence for this sort of thing is tricky even with the lower bar of a civil case). But now... He lost a defamation case for saying he didn't sexually abuse her? I don't get it.
 

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But...is this kosher? I remember at the time of the original trial thinking that this was just his word against hers and people to whom she told her version and there was no way this holds up in an appeal (evidence for this sort of thing is tricky even with the lower bar of a civil case). But now... He lost a defamation case for saying he didn't sexually abuse her? I don't get it.
Do you really think that Trump responded in a bare minimum way to the allegations and somehow that would amount to defamation? I'm going to plead ignorance on the minutiae when it comes to these cases, but I don't feel like it's farfetched that he'd defame someone in an effort to defend himself. He's lucky he has money because no lawyer would willingly take cases on involving him. He has to be the worst client on planet earth.
 

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Biden and others who are punishing the Palestinians even more deserve to rot in hell and have the most painful deaths possible. They removed funding for a group that takes care of Palestinians based on lies, likely as a retribution for Israel being told to chill with the genocide. The Dems truly do not want to win 2024, do they? They refuse to nominate another candidate and continue to keep supporting the genocide, while lying about Hamas' supposed violence.
 

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Just projections but this bodes well if this was his worst state in 2020. And now he's up a pretty big margin among black voters? I mean we knew he'd get the black vote as the democratic candidate, but it's good to recognize that my people aren't... distracted... by things happening outside of America.

Black people are gonna put the democratic party on its back, as always.
 
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Maybe I'm lost but what exactly is the point of comparing turnout in a Democratic Primary for an incumbent vs 2020? It's like 1/5th the turnout by comparison and there's zero steam behind any of these challengers. Or did people expect some sort of indictment on Biden shown in the results?
 

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Maybe I'm lost but what exactly is the point of comparing turnout in a Democratic Primary for an incumbent vs 2020? It's like 1/5th the turnout by comparison and there's zero steam behind any of these challengers. Or did people expect some sort of indictment on Biden shown in the results?
Some super far-left kids did, and are taking credit for Biden looking bad in polls. I think they imagine there are a lot more Muslims in America than there are, OR... they think that there are a lot more places in America that are super far left like they are, where the sentiment concerning Biden based on his Israel/Palestine stance is that "we can't vote for this genocidal monster". Just felt like there needed to be a reminder of what world we actually live in.

Granted the Muslim community in SC is practically non-existent.. but, they're most prevalent in New York and California... states that Biden absolutely will not lose.
 

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pretty cruel to call Israel's genocide of Palestinians "distraction," especially when Palestinians did help BLM protesters on how to deal with stuff like tear gas and attacks by cops, who were trained by Israel.
 

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Concern with politics outside of one's country is fine, and empathy for people who aren't your countrymen is fine too. But if it's gotten to the point that you're sabotaging your political process because you care more about what's happening across the world than the burning democracy back home, then you've gotten distracted from your responsibility as an American.
 
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Because there's a literal genocide going on, people being murdered that Biden is supporting. That's on top of him not carrying out most of his promises and doing very little to help people. How are we NOT affected by Biden giving billions of dollars to Israel to commit genocide and to Ukraine when USA needs the money? When just saying you support a ceasefire or oppose the genocide could get you expelled, fired, and/or destroy your life?

Biden is not that much better than Trump in terms of Islamophobia either, he keeps harping on and on about Hamas and sharing false information that he hasn't seen, despite claiming to have seen it. All that's done is ramp up the attacks on Palestinians and Muslims where a little kid was killed, and three college students were savagely beaten.
 

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So sick man, this is definitely what you were voted into office to do - cede ground to seditionist scum like Greg Abbott
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Really have to wonder what the function of the federal government is if state governments can defy supreme court orders and still get what they want
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Wow, shocking! Maybe Senate Dems and Biden should bring kneepads next time
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Oh man, wow, that's awesome
 

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I've seen all these Republicans screaming the bill is a trap. Kinda hard to push the "Democrats are partisan monsters that won't compromise on anything" thing if they don't take steps to keep a wedge issue as a wedge issue.

Imagine having a chance to get what you want but passing on it so that you can bitch about not getting what you want. These motherfuckers really are evil.
 

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So who are we going to blame if Biden loses? The people that Biden alienated with his policies and decisions, or Biden himself?
 
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