Conditional Base Erza vs BSS Mirajane

[Demon Hunter]

defense is an ambiguous term.

my boy @Jko probably means he can block better or something cause he definitely doesn't have better durability.

 

[Ramen]

my boy @Jko probably means he can block better or something cause he definitely doesn't have bigger durability.

Block better? What does that even mean?

 

[Demon Hunter]

Block better? What does that even mean?

Idk

defense isn't strictly = durability.

same how some people confuse durability=endurance like we saw in durability and endurance ranking.

 

[Ramen]

Idk

defense isn't strictly = durability.

same how some people confuse durability=endurance like we saw in durability and endurance ranking.

Erza outclasses Jacob in tankiness/durability/endurance/reaction speed. The whole 9 yards

 

[Jko]

She couldn't beat Juliet and Heine in that form. Jacob is nothing without his transport.

Jacob no sold everything from Natsu bar FDKM lol. J/H were strong. They had nothing to say the were weak in the first place. Erza was hurt by Beserkers who are fodder enchanted by Irene so why would enchantments that Irene took time into making be weaker than an enchantment she can easily do w/o thought or effort?

defense is an ambiguous term.

my boy @Jko probably means he can block better or something cause he definitely doesn't have better durability.

Madmole is a weird case altogether. I just name it defense rather than dura bcs I don't know if his armor is more like a shield or just amps his natural defense stat which could relate to dura.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Btw, Mira did pull up a river when she fought Freed, both in manga and the anime.

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Madmole is a weird case altogether. I just name it defense rather than dura bcs I don't know if his armor is more like a shield or just amps his natural defense stat which could relate to dura.

Fair enough.

 

[Ramen]

Jacob no sold everything from Natsu bar FDKM lol

That was base Natsu.

Btw, Mira did pull up a river when she fought Freed, both in manga and the anime.

Why's that an argument?

 

[kian]

That's what I'm saying. She exhausted herself fighting a Jacob who was blind the whole time.

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Apparently stalemating a Skullion who didn't use a single named attack (and only used slaps and kicks for all we know) is better than tanking RL Laxus.

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She exhausted herself fighting Jacob? Bruh she was literally in shit condition prior to fighting him and still managed take him out.

She was shown dodging Skullion's ash attacks? Doesn't take a genius to realise that he would use his main source of offence against someone he stalemated against, especially when he's shown to have taken damage.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Why's that an argument?

Idk, ask him not me

 

[Ramen]

She exhausted herself fighting Jacob? Bruh she was literally in shit condition prior to fighting him and still managed take him out.

Everyone was and fought stronger opponents. Erza did. She took him out because he wouldn't open his eyes lol.

Are we also going to forget that he was in shit condition. FDKM Natsu one shot previosuly.

She was shown dodging Skullion's ash attacks? Doesn't take a genius to realise that he would use his main source of offence against someone he stalemated against, especially when he's shown to have taken damage.

Prove it. Actually no, she was dodging his slaps and kicks. You can't lol.

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Idk, ask him not me

He won't even respond lol.

 

[Demon Hunter]

He won't even respond lol.

You have to ask nicely

 

[Ramen]

Edit: She dodged one unnamed Ash attack.

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You have to ask nicely

Hey @Jko will you ever respond?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Jacob no sold everything from Natsu bar FDKM lol

Edit - So what when Natsu was holding back. Those fire blast is no different to the one that took out Neinhart lol. It just proves he has better durability than Neinhart nothing else.

Erza was hurt by Beserkers who are fodder enchanted by Irene so why would enchantments that Irene took time into making be weaker than an enchantment she can easily do w/o thought or effort?

Erza was overwhelmed by a bunch of berserkers as well as Gildarts don't know why you bothered to bring it as if Mira would have done any better.

 

[Ramen]

@Jean Grey

It didn't work, I guess me and @Jko aren't friends

 

[Demon Hunter]

@Jean Grey

It didn't work, I guess me and @Jko aren't friends

He is writing a long response most likely.

Have faith

 

[Jko]

So what when Natsu was holding back. Those fire blast is the same as the one that took out Neinhart lol. It just proves he has better durability than Neinhart nothing else.




Erza was overwhelmed by a bunch of berserkers as well as Gildarts don't know why you bothered to bring it as if Mira would have done any better.

Natsu still pack a punch even with attacks that don't have wide AoE. Attack potency is what matter here and Natsu felt he needed a mode stronger than Base to take down Jacob so Jacob ain't weak lol.

Gildarts wasn't overwhelmed...He was shown obliterating them lol. I'm saying those 3 or so Beserkers are not stronger than Juliette or Heine as Irene took time to make those swords into humans lol. So they are not weak like you think.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Natsu still pack a punch even with attacks that don't have wide AoE. Attack potency is what matter here and Natsu felt he needed a mode stronger than Base to take down Jacob so Jacob ain't weak lol.

Jacob was nothing but a Joke to Natsu. He just wanted to end the fight fast of course he is gonna go for FDK that his main offense spell. He used that on Makarov as well.

ne took time to make those swords into humans lol

lol that's nothing but your head canon. Irene needing time to enchant personality on those swords. Those bersekers are stronger than those two fodders.

 

[Jko]

Jacob was nothing but a Joke to Natsu. He just wanted to end the fight fast of course he is gonna go for FDK that his main offense spell. He used that on Makarov as well.



lol that's nothing but your head canon. Irene needing time to enchant personality on those swords. Those bersekers are stronger than those two fodders.

Natsu went FDKM which is far stronger than Base FDK and Natsu needing Base FDK to down Makarov just shows how strong Maka is.

How is it a headcanon? Why would she not just enchant the swords again if they didn't take time in the first place? The Beserkers aren't stronger as effort in a spell > no effort and the swords clearly took effort otherwise she would have easily enchanted them again.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Natsu went FDKM which is far stronger than Base FDK and Natsu needing Base FDK to down Makarov just shows how strong Maka is.

There is nothing called base FDK. It's just FDK. He used the same thing against Aldoron as well. If he had a stronger form then he would used that as well.

How is it a headcanon? Why would she not just enchant the swords again if they didn't take time in the first place?

Why would she bother enchanting them again when they already lost.

he Beserkers aren't stronger as effort in a spell > no effort and the swords clearly took effort otherwise she would have easily enchanted them again.

Why she enchant bunch of losers who lost?

 

[Ramen]

There is nothing called base FDK. It's just FDK. He used the same thing against Aldoron as well. If he had a stronger form then he would used that as well.

Arguing with him on this topic is like a bottomless pit. Trust