Discussion Big Mom Pirates

[Sakazuki]

Finally we have some material about this yonkou and we already have mixed feelings towards her. She is big. Shem is disgusting. She is ugly in the same proportion that Sanji is a perverted. And boy, she will do ANYTHING for the sake of her candies.

Let us know what you think about her and her mysterious crew.

 

[yieps]

Re: Big Mam Pirates

Maybe she can transform others into animals, maybe even partly.

 

[Sakazuki]

Re: Big Mam Pirates

I really would love to her crew have a literature theme based. But still, it’s too early to know if the crew will match my desire anyway.

Let judge her by her flag. We can see that candies are an important element to her, since we can see them on her flag. But there is another important element on her flag, which looks like a tree. Maybe she has a zoan devil fruit that could transform in a tree or flower. Does anybody know any plant that can produce acid?

It would be a good joke if a plant (vegetable) themed character was sou found of candies, as we know that kids doesn’t like vegetables but loves all candies.

What works against my theories is that she is in place that is really dark, what unfit this analysis.

EDIT:

Big Mam, living on Whole Cake Island and eating her underlings, is possibly a reference to the cannibalistic hag in Hansel and Gretel, who lives in a house made of cake and confectionery.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Re: Big Mam Pirates

My guess for inspiration:

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both are "powerful", "greedy" and dont care about their underlings, so i kinda expect to have big mam connections to famous piratehunters which she will order to take luffy before her

 

[Sakazuki]

Re: Big Mam Pirates

My guess for inspiration:

Spoiler

both are "powerful", "greedy" and dont care about their underlings, so i kinda expect to have big mam connections to famous piratehunters which she will order to take luffy before her

It would be nice to see a Star Wars tribute, but I can’t see this working in the whole crew. Ok, maybe if we consider that the crewmembers that we already saw are all weirdoes.

 

[ErosVp]

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I'm going to make a prediction just in case....

Seeing the mask-man compared to the three eyed girl (here), it is clear he must be at most 3 meter tall like Jinbei or Blackbeard, then the tallest normal humans we saw were Kuma and Moria around 6 meters.... Then here we see that Big Mama is not twice his height, but a lot more. So my opnion/prediction is that Big Mama is a giant! It fits the name "big" and it makes believable she eats 10 tons of candy... Also she is not Lola's mom.

 

[Sakazuki]

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I don’t know if Big Mam is really Lola’s mom. Ok, they’re ugly as the devil, but parenthood is a thing that is somewhat relative in One Piece. Whitebeard pirates called their captain “Pops” and even Ace doesn’t called his biological father by the proper way.
Right know, I can’t see Big Mam been Lola’s mother.

 

[Uriel]

Re: Big Mam Pirates

I'll edit the title since the 24hs rule can't be skipped by anyone. I will leave it there until Wednesday considering that maybe there are some who are expecting the chapter that day and doesn't check the forums until then.

Any complain, PM me.

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

The REAL Yonkou are Kaidou, Shanks, and Teach. Big Mum doesn't strike me as a super power, in the sense WB and Shanks are. First, she's fat as fuck. Second, her character is ridiculous and silly. Her powers fall in the same ranks as well. To sum it all up, Luffy will have no problem kicking the crap outta of her.

 

[Zehahaha]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

The REAL Yonkou are Kaidou, Shanks, and Teach. Big Mum doesn't strike me as a super power, in the sense WB and Shanks are. First, she's fat as fuck. Second, her character is ridiculous and silly. Her powers fall in the same ranks as well. To sum it all up, Luffy will have no problem kicking the crap outta of her.

Hmmm I doubt that.
She must be strong, maybe not strong as WB/Shanks/Teach, but she seems to be an old timer too.

IMO, I think she's like Moria in the sense that she probably have some tricky powers.

But it's true that she didn't left a single impression on me too unlike other uber pirates.

 

[fcToho]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

I already wrote it in the chapter thread, but I'm reminded of Ghibli and especially Chihiro (Spirited away).
Here are a few examples:

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[MMolch]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

my first crazy guesses:
- devil fruit: spit (kinda like magelans poison fruit)
- maybe she is pregnant?! would fit in the "need foooood" and "mama" stuff (suddenly: 100 ugly babies) ... but her head is even bigger ...
- luffy won't fight against her in the next ~ 3?4? bigger arcs (seriously: beating up one of the four most powerful and influential pirates right at the beginning ... come on ... and don't underestimate her)

Aaaand:
- did you mention that lola and the skull on big mams pirate flag have the same haircolour? maybe you already knew that, but i just realized it :

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[Mashiro_Luna]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

^I got the same impression from Big Mom.

People should stop underestimating Big Mom, she is a Yonko she's obviously a massive powerhouse. Saying she's weak because she's fat would be the same as think Whitebeard was weak cause he was an old fart, the last mistake you'd ever make.

If she was weak enough that Luffy could 'own' her like people have been saying the World Government would have sent someone to get rid of her a long time ago. She has to be at least equal to Kaido and Shanks in power.

 

[Zehahaha]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

^I got the same impression from Big Mom.

People should stop underestimating Big Mom, she is a Yonko she's obviously a massive powerhouse. Saying she's weak because she's fat would be the same as think Whitebeard was weak cause he was an old fart, the last mistake you'd ever make.

If she was weak enough that Luffy could 'own' her like people have been saying the World Government would have sent someone to get rid of her a long time ago. She has to be at least equal to Kaido and Shanks in power.

Erm...
Erm...

WG main concern is to keep the balance here. WG cannot control all the seas, especially the NW which seems to be quite different from the first part of the GL. Therefore, they cannot take all the Yonkou out.

But as I said, she's strong, but definitely not strong as Shanks or WB... She looks more like Moria style who back at the Thriller Bark was all hype and talk, and got weaker because he decided to become a lazy retard. And that's how Big Mam looked to me.

 

[odz]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

If she's yonkou, then she definitely can't be underestimated. She obviously commands a fleet as well, so whatever her powers may be, aligning himself against a yonkou is going to be a huge impediment for the SH crew. Being declared a target of a yonkou is even more dangerous.
I think that what is most interesting is Luffy "claiming" fishman island as his own. That seems to be common practice in the New World, so I wonder if this is going to become a pattern.
My prediction for her power is something related to Greed's power from Fullmetal Alchemist (chomp chomp fruit?). Maybe she can bite through anything. It could be pretty unstoppable offensive and defensive power, especially when combined with Haki.

 

[HereNThere]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

Why is she "definitely" not as strong as Shanks or Teach? We haven't even seen her lift a finger, let alone fight. That would be similar to me saying Jinbe isn't as strong as the rest of the Shichibukai when he was still locked up in prison. She is a Yonko, she is at the least, as strong as Shanks and Kaido. If she wasn't, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be a Yonko anymore as Kaido or Teach or some other pirate would have taken her out already.

That being said, from what we have seen of her, she can drool her stomach acid and is most likely a giant. She looks to be larger than Moria. Her crew, as most crews we have been seeing from the New World is really diverse. Another walking animal like Bepo, a long leg tribesman, a three eyed hot girl, and a thing with a paper mask on it's face. Pretty weird, but cool all in all.

On another note, I'm also a believer in the Big Mam= Lola's Mom theory. That might come into play during the course of BM and Luffy's battle(cause I highly doubt they are going to meet in the next couple of arcs), because it could be revealed that the reason Big Mam wants the candy is because she is upset over the disappearance of her daughter.

EDIT: Also, did anyone else notice that above the three eyed girl, there was a jelly like substance on the chair although it wasn't anywhere else in the castle?

 

[Zehahaha]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

I like this type of argument when it says : " If X Pirate isn't strong, he would've been taken out by Y pirate ".
That's implying that actually Teach or Kaido or any other pirate wants to bring her down.

As for the " definitely " from my part, I'm sorry, that's just what I felt from here, she's absolutely not in the league of Shanks and WB. There's absolutely no way that someone like her is as strong as these two, I have and will never have any evidence to back up my claim unless Oda shows us a fight opposing these characters, but I know when a character is stronger than another, especially since Oda's style makes it easy to spot it.

The feeling, I wouldn't say intimidation, that WB and Shanks gave were truly something else, I could easily say they're STRONG. Or more precisely, they're at the TOP. They way Oda draws them, they give a vibe different from any character, the only characters so far from whom I felt such a vibe are WB/Shanks/Mihawk/The admirals. The first time I saw them, I was like " Damn, these guys must be top tier ". Crocodile, Doflamingo, Kuma do give such a vibe too, but not to the extent of those six.

It is all from the introduction, and Oda do put an emphasis on that, heck we can even judge the strenght of a character coming from the introduction.

We have not seen Buggy fight when he encountered Luffy first, but I knew he was weak, same with Mr.3, Foxy...

That's why, I say that she's not at the level of WB/Shanks, but BB or Kaido not sure, I still have mixed feeling towards BB as a character.

 

[HereNThere]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

Considering how BB is acting as of now, why wouldn't he want to take her down? But anyway, your "definitely" statement is my only real problem. You can believe that she is not as strong as Shanks and the others if you want, that is your opinion, but stating it as if it were a fact when we have seen nothing that says otherwise for both possibilities, kind of peeved me off. You could be right or I could be right, the fact is we just don't know yet. Hell we could possibly never know.

Long story short, I respect your opinion, I just wish you'd give her a chance to prove herself strong or not.

 

[Zeltrax]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

I already posted in one of the thread but anyway,
I think her powers is something related to gluttony..
My prediction is either the glutton glutton fruit or the candy candy fruit..(sounds weird )

I predict that her powers will be something like turning her opponent to candy or food with a touch or with a specific condition.

 

[HereNThere]

Re: ~SPOILERS~ Big Mom Pirates

I already posted in one of the thread but anyway,
I think her powers is something related to gluttony..
My prediction is either the glutton glutton fruit or the candy candy fruit..(sounds weird )

I predict that her powers will be something like turning her opponent to candy or food with a touch or with a specific condition.

Ahh, the Majin Buu effect, huh? I can't really see it. That would make her fight with Luffy to easy...unless...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4c-Y8diIBE